Why are Psychedelics the only real ILLEGAL drugs?

[Karmapuff]

Anything that deals with expanding your mind, growing and developing an intimacy with ones subconscious and conscious mind while also opening up to different frequencies of reality/life are illegal these drugs are the psychedelics. Psychedelics have a strong impact on your mind and the way you think, this impact is usually positive and is most likely charged towards bettering the world and everyone in it (Our brothers and sister's)

We learn so much from taking these psychedelics, this information will stay with us until the day we die, It is our duty to help share what we have learned, the judgmental are going to judge and the ignorant people are going to be ignorant. It's not there fault they have been subject to alot of brainwashing over there life time.

The drugs that take away your free will and turn you into a sheep being led to slaughter. The very drugs that keep you from questioning and dumb down the thoughts in your mind are the very drugs legal and well prescribed.
The real drugs are psychedelics they are the only drugs you wont be able to get with a prescription yet you can get practically any other drug prescribed.


Heroin (diacetylmorphine)

Legal to prescribe in: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Hong-Kong, Canada and much more other places.
Morphine is similar to heroin it is generally used in all hospitals as a pain reliever and it can be prescibed in pretty much any country for the same purpose.


Meth/Speed (Methamphetamin,Amphetmine)

Is prescribed to treat ADHD
Brand names of medications that contain, or metabolize into, amphetamine include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, ProCentra, and Vyvanse, as well as Benzedrine in the past.


Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine)

Cocaine can actually be prescribed in American but it rarely is but... Methylphenidate (Ritalin) has similar effect on your body as cocaine.

Methylphenidate, a Schedule II substance, has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or the amphetamines.

Marijuana (Tetrahydrocannabinol, THC)

Can be prescribed in 12 states in America.


Then we have Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine all the drugs that are highly addicting and really damaging to the body and mind perfectly legal and washed deeply into our minds. We see these drugs hundreds if not thousands a time a week.

Why is the government so scared of mind expanding drugs?
Because those drugs actually help you understand everything around you, they show you more to life then a one track existence.

Life is filled with a bunch of great mystery's waiting to be unlocked and we have the tools but have been criminalized to use them. I will not be a sheep...



p.s much love to all my psychedelic friends on the forum, glad to be back

 

[Puffer Fish]

Hey brother ....
Great to see YOU ...
Where have YOu been ?

Some psychedelics are also very dangerous and might destroy your brain ...in the worst way. If YOU use them in the wrong way. (escapism ... self medication)
Drugs are illegal/prescribed ... cause not all people can handle them.

 

[Karmapuff]

I agree, all drugs can destroy your brain. Abuse comes with any mind altering drug.

In my perfect world we haven't consumed poison, our minds work at peak capacity... We are aware of everyone and everything around us (as nature intended it to be) We take the mushrooms of the land in moderation and reflect on our experiences.
We all evolve together, we grow together while being taught by nature.

...but in our world...we regulate the drugs that bring us down and shun the ones that open our mind. If we where more accepted to the idea of expanding our minds with psychedelics then we could all learn and study more about the good and bad drugs and put actually knowledge in peoples heads.

I missed you puffer and the rest of you guys! I am good, I was in Arizona for a bit then decided to come back up to Canada... back living with her.
How have you been?! I also have been clean of all drugs for about 6+ months it's a good and bad thing lol

 

[John0156]

just wanted to say great job on this some great info.

 

[NP88]

I cannot think of a resonable answer to that question.... ill give it a shot though...

Prescription drugs treat specific symptoms, which should not occur normally.... pain, the inability to focus.... and there effect is clearly evident, and the mind is not altered in an extreme way. Psychedelic substances don't have a proven record treating any specific condition. Key word is proven. Also, any positive effects are not quite as obvious. They can help eliminate positive symptoms such as depression, but so can current psychiatric medications. Current psychiatric medications accomplish this by suppressing thoughts for the most part. I believe that also plays a big role in limiting the amount of research performed using psychedelics.

 

[heir proctor]

Psychedelic drugs don't fit well in a capitalist society. The government wants us to get jobs and pay taxes. They want us buy that big screen TV, new car, and new home. They don't want us skipping through the forest with a basket full of flowers.



Glad your doing well Karmapuff. Missed you!

 

[Puffer Fish]

Brother, in your current situation it is a very good thing to take a break from the potions ...
Great YOU are back !
Now I do not have to miss YOu any longer !

Welcome back !

 

[asdf1]

Awesome post! You make a lot of good points.... If only everyone could see psychedelics in that light.

My last mushroom trip I tried to lead it in a more enlightening direction for my friends who had only ever done it just to "trip out" and shit... You know the type I am sure.... Anyway towards the end of the successful trip we all just wised everyone could do mushrooms. But people just dont see it that way and its sad....

 

[Michael Sparks]

Yeah, i couldn't agree more, society has been molded to think in such ways, when you converse upon these subjects in public is it considered 'taboo', although curious we naturally are, we should enlighten rather then scoff when another is unfamiliar, share knowledge therefore creating new experiences.

 

[bob loblough]

Because those drugs actually help you understand everything around you, they show you more to life then a one track existence.

Life is filled with a bunch of great mystery's waiting to be unlocked and we have the tools but have been criminalized to use them. I will not be a sheep...

personally, i think your answer is right here

 

[Pigmie1]

Psychedelics just don't have a legitimate medicinal use. Psilocybin mushrooms, as well as LSD has been proven to relieve cluster headaches, but your doctor probably isn't going to prescribe you shrooms or acid just because your head hurts (not that these are prescription drugs to begin with lol). Marijuana, opiates, (yeah even meth) have proven medicinal value, and that's the only reason they are still semi available to the public. Psychedelics are pretty much just good for tripping, and arguing that they have spiritual, or mind expanding benefits isn't going to get us anywhere with the government. (not that I don't agree with you completely about those benefits)

 

[Tenner]

Welcome back Karmapuff, was wondering where you were

I think they are illegal because the lifestyle or views on life of the people who make the laws can`t understand what they are.

Me no care about medicinal use with these things its just so exciting! I shouldn`t need a 101 reasons of why I do this thing

 

[asdf1]

Psychedelics just don't have a legitimate medicinal use. Psilocybin mushrooms, as well as LSD has been proven to relieve cluster headaches, but your doctor probably isn't going to prescribe you shrooms or acid just because your head hurts (not that these are prescription drugs to begin with lol). Marijuana, opiates, (yeah even meth) have proven medicinal value, and that's the only reason they are still semi available to the public. Psychedelics are pretty much just good for tripping, and arguing that they have spiritual, or mind expanding benefits isn't going to get us anywhere with the government. (not that I don't agree with you completely about those benefits)

You are absolutely right. That arguement will get us nowhere with the federal government, but it is why we should legalize psychedelics. If only our lawmakers could be openminded and try to see them in that light and try them then they would get it.

 

[Puffer Fish]

I suspect that ...
The system will never allow psychedelics to be legal ... (not in OUR lifetime)
These substances are way to powerful in terms of what they reveal ...
Enough to disrupt ... the system of thought/religion/economy ...
This is the main issue.

Sadly, We need to evolve further ...
Before these things are accepted.

Food for thought ...

 

[Michael Sparks]

If we want change it will happen, only when that is realized will we start to act.

 

[canndo]

Here is the truth:

In order for our government to actally feel threatened by enlightenment causeing substances, they would have to be enlightened themselves.

they aren't.

the reason LSD and the rest are illegal is due to a governmental phenomenon called "weeping mother syndrome" and the "if it saves just one child" affect.

Someone somewhere, usually a child gets his hands on a substance that is usually legal - and it is legal because the government doesn't really know or care about it. This child makes a mockery of every precaution and element of reason we bring to bear on the injestion of psychic or spirititual chemicals and hurts himself or dies.

The child's mother forms a comittee of like minded mothers who just want to look out for their children. These groups are perfect fodder for politicians who thrive on "if it saves the life of just one child then it is worth the work I and my laudable staff have put into keeping this horrible NARCOTIC out of the hands of our CHILDREN".

And then, without study, without input from doctors who might have a legitimatge use for this stuff, it is made illegal, and from that point it is neglected by established interests and its users are stigmatized.

the weeping moms, having formed this committee and having discovered their political power, rather than disband,
(their work having been accomplished) go on to meddle some more.

and that, dear friends is why certain drugs are illegal.

 

[Tenner]

I agree with you Canndo.

Once shit happens people start playing the blame game. The blamer usually first blames themselves and then launches the blame off them and onto the closest thing which in this case would be the drug. They don`t realise they`re doing this as when they try to think deeper, its a red zone for blaming themselves. Its a sad vicious circle and has caused a lot of shit for people!

 

[heir proctor]

Here is the truth:

In order for our government to actally feel threatened by enlightenment causeing substances, they would have to be enlightened themselves.

they aren't.

the reason LSD and the rest are illegal is due to a governmental phenomenon called "weeping mother syndrome" and the "if it saves just one child" affect.

Someone somewhere, usually a child gets his hands on a substance that is usually legal - and it is legal because the government doesn't really know or care about it. This child makes a mockery of every precaution and element of reason we bring to bear on the injestion of psychic or spirititual chemicals and hurts himself or dies.

The child's mother forms a comittee of like minded mothers who just want to look out for their children. These groups are perfect fodder for politicians who thrive on "if it saves the life of just one child then it is worth the work I and my laudable staff have put into keeping this horrible NARCOTIC out of the hands of our CHILDREN".

And then, without study, without input from doctors who might have a legitimatge use for this stuff, it is made illegal, and from that point it is neglected by established interests and its users are stigmatized.

the weeping moms, having formed this committee and having discovered their political power, rather than disband,
(their work having been accomplished) go on to meddle some more.

and that, dear friends is why certain drugs are illegal.

The government and by extension big business could care less about US. It's our money that they care about.

I mean fuck, WAY more people die from alcohol and nicotine...

 

[Sr. Verde]

simple answer to OP:


because people aren't ready to handle the truth, yet!

 

[asdf1]

It's all the same shit that happened to MDMA. First it was legal, people started using it. Then the government caught wind of it and tried to find out what was bad about it before ever considering it could be a good thing. Their reasoning is that anything that can make you feel that good must be bad. Well they went and tried to find out why it was bad scientifically and they just couldn't so they made it illegal before they could even prove it was bad or good. Every time I do it I get so angry that it is not legal for therapy. Sure don't let people do it recreationally, that is fine with me because, YES, it can be addictive and harmful. But in a clinical environment, safely, it should be legal. I get positively enraged when i am on it for the fact that it could be helping so many people deal with their personal problems.

MDMA is just one example but the same formula can be applied to any useful substance.

Wouldn't you rather live in a world that is drugged up and peaceful and happy than a misreble world that is sober. People seem to think that if you change your perception with a substance than that perception is invalid and not "real". Well the way I see it is our perception matters more than reality because our perception is what creates reality. So when you change your perception you are changing your reality.

Nobody understands psychedelics like people should.