aeroponics with oxygen tank for o2?

spencer2121

spencer2121

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my uncle has like 25 tanks and gave me one to try out in my aeroponics, has anyone ever tried this before and if so do u think it helped? my theory is that it will be good for roots and help keep everything clean as well.
 
spencer2121

spencer2121

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ChronicClouds said:
Why not use an air pump so you dont have to refill your containers?? O2 is very flammable be careful.
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because i dont really see how a airpump would be more beneficial than oxygen in a tank, the tank is on its lowest setting and the airline is ran to the air stornes, is this unsafe? is it even worth it? and no im not paying for the o2
 
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blackbellychimp

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All ide say is tie up all the wires and keep your setup out of the vicinity of an outlet since o2 is VERY flammable. Maybe try it as an experiment for just a few plants?
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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O2 is flammable and expensive. The air contains 20.9% O2. I don't see why you wouldn't just use fresh air since it already contains so much.

EDIT: oxygen on it's own is not flammable, but elevated levels pose more fire risk
 
spencer2121

spencer2121

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im so fucking tired of people answering my questions who dont know what they are talking about!
Oxygen is NOT a fuel. Flames, fire and all related chemical reactions are a result of a FUEL being OXIDIZED, or being combined with oxygen. The application of oxygen to a burning fuel will cause the fire to burn much more vigorously, as well as hotter.

Oxygen, by itself, WILL NOT BURN. If it did, our atmosphere (which is 20.9% oxygen) would have burned up a long time ago.

Oxygen is mixed with a number of different fuel sources to get a faster, hotter burn. Acetylene, used in metal cutting torches, is mixed with oxygen to get a super hot flame that will quickly cut through metal.

NASA uses oxygen to burn hydrogen fuel, not only to get a fast burn required in a rocket engine, but also because surrounding oxygen in the atmosphere becomes much more scarce as you leave the atmosphere for space.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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Why though? You just made a post recognizing the atmosphere has 20.9%. If it does combine with anything flammable in your grow room you could have a very dangerous situation.
 
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blackbellychimp

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Sorry if i was unclear. What i meant by that is that its wayyyy easier for a fire to start if the room is saturated with oxygen from an o2 tank, but i guess you already knew that.

Now maybe you can experiment with hooking up some apparatus to feed oxygen to the air pump to see if it yields results. It looks like nobody here has tried it so far so be the first.
 
spencer2121

spencer2121

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if its that dangerous then why would it be ok for people to use these tanks in their homes? i dont see how it could start a fire please explain how this could happen
 
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blackbellychimp

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Because its a grow room with hot lights close to materials and wires dude lol the risk of fire is already above average. Dried rockwool could catch somehow, theres some pretty flammable plastics too. Anyways i say do it and post results i see no harm just be careful.
 
spencer2121

spencer2121

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well ive decided u guys have pretty much scared me to the point where i wont risk it. however since im vegging im gonna use the o2 when the lights are off meaning when the lights go out ill turn the o2 on a very low setting and then before lights on turn it off, what do ya think?
 
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wiseguy316

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An air pump or additional O2 is not required in aero. They get plenty of O2. If you think they are not getting enough O2 turn you cycle timer down. I run mine at 15 seconds on 6 minutes off. If you are worried about keeping it clean use some H2O2 which will also provide your res more O2.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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spencer2121 said:
if its that dangerous then why would it be ok for people to use these tanks in their homes? i dont see how it could start a fire please explain how this could happen
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Why are people allowed to have propane tanks in their house? Or natural gas piped directly in? Explosions and fires happen as a result of those all the time.

It's really not much of a fire risk. Other things would simultaneously have to happen for it to pose a risk. But I still don't see how it's worth the extra cost or hassle. I really doubt oxygen is the limiting factor in your set up. Pumping in 100% O2 doesn't seem like it would be more beneficial than just using air at 20.9%. 20.9% will already provide it with more o2 than it could use I would think.

I don't know for sure one way or the other for sure, but I would guess it wouldn't be very beneficial.
 
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