Guys, read the attitude seed banks fine print, or most of them for that matter, state that in the event the seeds you ordered are out of stock, poor quality or a multitude of other reasons, they will send a substitute in it's place. Now most times they email and ask you what you want but sometimes they're flat out and pick something of equal value they believe is similar. Now people also need to remember they are the middle men, you can't blame them for bad seeds, poor genetics, or breeders sending out the wrong seeds or a bad batch, they simply pick and pack. True, there are a few threads out there discrediting good seed banks, usually a disgruntled customer with a once off bad experience that tarnish these companies names on forums, which is basically their biggest market-word of mouth and rep. Your already convictable of conspiring to cultivate by talking on this site depending on your state laws, they trace your ip, get the account details etc, if they really wanted you they'd have you already. Keep in mind that we are ordering something illegal, from another country, getting it shipped through regulated mail and so far i haven't had a failure and remember, where did these people from the bad posts get their seeds in the first place? I've ordered from three different companies all with success, the system works