What factors are related to yield??

[symbiote420]

Yes I am comparing plants to humans, they are alive, not? They eat, sleep, breathe, and produce waste, and I dare you to say they don't have emotions, so sounds kinda like a human to me! If you took steriods and we were the same size you would get bigger than me if we work out the same amount of time, yes!, but what side effects will this have? Steriods have chemicals the body produces itself, flood your body with the chemicals it need it stop producing these chemicals on it's own something it's supposed to do. Alot of people have trouble growing because of that mindset, they think the plant is just a thing cause it doesn't move around or make noise.

 

[symbiote420]

And I'll bet my house that your couple grams over mine will stay on the shelf longer once people try both products too.

 

[tip top toker]

Why do so so many people come on here thinking they can analyze cannabis by studying how a human fucntions. You can wish it as much as you like but you know what, they are not the same. That's like saying that we are no different to wild animals who wolf down chunks of raw meat without issue, nope, we get food poisoning. I guess plants like breast millk eh I love that your'e trying to compare steroids and vitamin shakes to organic/non-organic plant food. Why not compare them to organic and non-organic human food, and bam, there's fuck all difference. I like that you try and use the example of steroids and vitamins to make your point. I mean flipping it arou/nd while still using your logic, does that means people are feeding their plants 3 course meals? Where did vitamins and steroids appear from, there are plenty opf alternative non-organic meals available

And it's been long shown that hydro near always outgrows a soil medium and i have witnessed this myse;f time and time again using the identical cutting and method of growing.

My "couple of grams" don't stay on the shelf because i smoke them myself you're now trying to use the position of a retailer as an arguing point when all we are discussing is organic/non-organic hydro/soil quality and taste, not who will sell there's first. Way to be subjective.

Keep trying to argue against an extremely well established opinion on the matter though, but any other person on the forum or who has grown cannabis will tell you that soil will give better taste but hydro will give a faster turn around (marginally) and a higher yield.

 

[asaph]

So you are comparing plants to humans. Deary me. Ill bet my house that if we get 2 cuts and do one soil, one hydro the hydro will produce more

well, isn't that what vegans do?

 

[symbiote420]

I never said it wouldn't produce a higher yield or be faster to the contrary that's exactly what I said. When I used the reference of "on the shelf longer" I by no means advocated selling anything, sorry if it came off that way I was just trying to say that people wanted quality over quantity if they can get it {if having more mattered choose shwag over primo}
I never said plants were the same as humans either, just similiar.
They lab test shit on mice and chimps before humans,WHY? cause they are similiar. I'm not a mouse or an ape!
I think at one point man did act like wolves though, and that wasn't to long ago either. And look at the kids nowadays, you think inorganic food is not responsible for that?
And I believe it is you hydro guys given your plants 3 square meals a day!!!!

 

[Perforator]

If you grow in soil and use non-organic nutrients, is that still organic?

 

[supersillybilly]

Im sick of all these people who think growing weed is all technical and scientific. Its a fucking weed. Decent light, decent seeds, your going to get quality and quantity. Every person I know who have changed from soil to a hydro system says they should have done it years ago. As for comparing hydro nutes and steriods, Do u know whats in steriods.........mainly tetesterone which the body produces. My point is in hydro u are giving them a conatant supply, prob more of what they need

 

[symbiote420]

Im sick of all these people who think growing weed is all technical and scientific. Its a fucking weed. Decent light, decent seeds, your going to get quality and quantity. Every person I know who have changed from soil to a hydro system says they should have done it years ago. As for comparing hydro nutes and steriods, Do u know whats in steriods.........mainly tetesterone which the body produces. My point is in hydro u are giving them a conatant supply, prob more of what they need

Almost every hydro dude that sees one of their strains after I grow it CONVERTS!!!, and that's got to the point now where I can't count how many people I've brought into the light, and not one of them is complaining that their yields are low or how long it takes, they're just happy their smoke is better!
The plant makes it's own chemicals too! I'm guessing you probably don't know this since all it is to you is a f'n weed, the roots feed off the broken down organic matter left by the microlife in the soil, you know the fungi, bacterias, enzymes, and insects, "similiar" to our stomach. When using liquid chemicals you bypass the whole system the plants have been using for MILLIONS of years and you force feed the plant directly so they stop processing these chems, sound like steriods to me. You would actually be amazed to know that when you use liquid chems you are bombarding the roots with nutes and they only use 10% of the ferts you are dumping on them anyway, the other 90% builds up (stores) in the medium and turns to salts, that's why you have to flush or your plants are going to die.-{THAT"S A BUILD UP OF TOXINS} just like roids. I'm not dogging hydro by no means I'm just standing up for organics.....as far as technical? scientific? that sounds like hydro again my friend, organics is just commonsense. And what I'm sick of is people asking you a bunch of questions and you answer them all, but you can't get not one of your questions answered WTF? Can I get something I asked answered? Or is it that most people who grow dro don't really know their grow method enough to explain it to people, I've grown both ways so I speak from experience on both sides of the track, soil to hydro then back to soil for good! My grandmother used to say "the race is not won by the fastest but by the one the endureth."

 

[symbiote420]

If you grow in soil and use non-organic nutrients, is that still organic?

NOPE. Just cause you grow in soil doesn't mean it's organic. The main reason I trip about hydro nutes is the effects they are having but we seem to just ignore them, in the midwest thousands of acres of farmland has been deemed unfertile due to the use of chemical ferts mainly P, look at all this shit forming in our water supply now, and the kids don't get me started, my little cousin is 12 and got a 36" waist! he's bigger than me in the gut and I'm almost 40 and not as active as he is.

 

[supersillybilly]

Each to their own ma man. Im in it for the £££££'s or $$$$$'s in your case.lol I know organic is better for you and tastes better but I just answer questions on what Ive learned. Im from Scotland, our water is so soft it wouldn't wash the soap off your hands.lol So I don't really have a problem with salt build up. What questions u want answered and I'll see if this lowly hydro grower can answer.lol

 

[maxpesh]

I know how to get LESS yield,,,,,,spend $1500 on Led's like I did,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, fu**ing crap !