Northern light seedlings turning yellow
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You have a 600W lamp over a plant less than 2"? What did you expect to happen?
Also explains why they are so small
You could have NOT put them under ANY light and they would have grown to their current stage (first leaves) faster and while looking healthier. That is NOT an exaggeration. A little research goes a long way eh?
They are VERY small for their age. At that point if I have a plant like that, I consider it a failed phenotype and scrap the grow. Especially if it was an auto-flower... if it is building up the hormones now, it could start flowering in a week or two... most likely its not building hormones (its struggling to do anything under that light) so I wouldnt worry too much about the auto-flower aspect of it.
Also not sure why you ignore people's advice. When someone says "The 600w is too much and maybe you overwatered" saying "I didnt overwater" doesnt really help anyone. It just implies you ignored the first part of the statement, or just really dont care about the answer.
Also explains why they are so small
You could have NOT put them under ANY light and they would have grown to their current stage (first leaves) faster and while looking healthier. That is NOT an exaggeration. A little research goes a long way eh?
They are VERY small for their age. At that point if I have a plant like that, I consider it a failed phenotype and scrap the grow. Especially if it was an auto-flower... if it is building up the hormones now, it could start flowering in a week or two... most likely its not building hormones (its struggling to do anything under that light) so I wouldnt worry too much about the auto-flower aspect of it.
Also not sure why you ignore people's advice. When someone says "The 600w is too much and maybe you overwatered" saying "I didnt overwater" doesnt really help anyone. It just implies you ignored the first part of the statement, or just really dont care about the answer.
I also find it unlikely that they are hormonally building up for flowering, but considering the autoflower came from ruderalis we really cant know for sure how it behaves. Scientifically, we still dont know how or why the autoflower occurs. Hormones building up is just the prominent theory.
He can grow a decent plant, but it will be rebounding the whole time. He definitely lost a lot of the plant's potential stressing it so hard.
IMO while any grow can be a good learning experience, being set back this far is quite detrimental. If we look at his plant, it physically looks only about 5 days old. So really if he were to start with new seeds, he could be back here at square 1 with a fresh and much healthier plant in no time. If we were at day 30 and the plant looked like a month old plant, just maybe a little sick, I would be whistling a different tune. But here at about day 20 with not even a true true set of leaves? I - personally - would scrap it
He can grow a decent plant, but it will be rebounding the whole time. He definitely lost a lot of the plant's potential stressing it so hard.
IMO while any grow can be a good learning experience, being set back this far is quite detrimental. If we look at his plant, it physically looks only about 5 days old. So really if he were to start with new seeds, he could be back here at square 1 with a fresh and much healthier plant in no time. If we were at day 30 and the plant looked like a month old plant, just maybe a little sick, I would be whistling a different tune. But here at about day 20 with not even a true true set of leaves? I - personally - would scrap it
CoolNameHere
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Scrapping is very drastic my last seeds done fine under my 600 i appreciate the comments but im not going to scrap a plant because it's growing slowly only a fool would imo i never asked if i should put it under a smaller light i told you what i have and thats it if ihad something better i clearly wouldn't be using it now would i 
CoolNameHere
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But i have now bought a proper light for them so do you suggest i put them under the fluro tubes
I dont consider scrapping to be drastic for a plant 20 days old with 1 set of leaves. I cant count on one hand how many times I have started with premium seeds only to have a couple start up as weird phenos, messed up beginning leaves, slow growth - stunted, a runt - like yours. I killed them, I need to focus on my plants that are growing and not the one pheno that didnt work out. It just happens sometimes, sometimes its not anyone's fault. But trying to grow what is obviously a bad plant or at least an extremely stressed seedling will do nothing but lead to headaches in the longrun or likely, a male after a lot of hard work.
Imagine if it took this long to grow a set of leaves how long it will take to flower...
If you want to keep at it because you want the experience and really do not have alternative seeds (it IS safe to buy seeds online! I know its scary but they are in business for a reason) then yes, put it under the flouro. It may come kicking back into life under the flouro, or it may already be too stressed. Whatever the case is the CFL will only help at this point so if you want to keep at it, that is the correct course of action. The 6500/6700K bulbs are ideal for vegetating and 1 CFL bulb or single T5/T8 strip will sustain a seedling for a good amount of time.
Imagine if it took this long to grow a set of leaves how long it will take to flower...
If you want to keep at it because you want the experience and really do not have alternative seeds (it IS safe to buy seeds online! I know its scary but they are in business for a reason) then yes, put it under the flouro. It may come kicking back into life under the flouro, or it may already be too stressed. Whatever the case is the CFL will only help at this point so if you want to keep at it, that is the correct course of action. The 6500/6700K bulbs are ideal for vegetating and 1 CFL bulb or single T5/T8 strip will sustain a seedling for a good amount of time.
CoolNameHere
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all 5 are pretty much the same one seems to be a little more advanced but not by much... i have 5 super skunk seeds if i planted no could they be done by oct 19th? i'm a really heavy smoker and completely out
this i my room http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220769018032&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3397wt_1059 and i have a 600 light and 2 400sFinishing in october will be close... It takes approximately 2 months for most strains just to flower.
But...
Autoflower plants are plants that have been crossed with the Ruderalis strain and will flower much sooner. I think I have heard some plants finishing seed to bud in as little as 70 days? Although you may not want autoflowers, if you want a fast finishing flower - thats really your only option. Traditional Sativas and Indicas take 8-12 weeks to finish just the flowering process. The strain I am growing now if I started flowering today would finish September 17. And thats not accounting for vegetating - which is best to go until the plant is mature with Sativa/Indicas which can take 2 months on it's own. So an autoflower may be best, and you may have time to grow them and get a little bit of a cure in there for maximum taste and potency, before oct 19
Normally I dont recommend autoflowers but if you are in a bind and if you are in a country that has tough drug laws (Which you do lol) and really want to get your smoke on, they may be the best way to go. Maybe not the most potent stuff but they can get pretty close - and it sounds like you will have a low tolerance by the time they finish.
And stick with the flouros for vegging - or at least early vegging (also, your link doesnt work, private listing/out of country)
Also make sure on those flouros to look at the bulb. Should be a number somewhere on it - 2500K, 5000K, 6500K or similar. You want 6500K or 6700K. This number indicates the wavelength of light being put out by the bulb, and the 6000+ spectrum is closest to what the plants would expereince in nature during the summer vegetating months. Later during flowering you switch to 2500K/5000K or the HPS so it thinks its the winter sun and will start flowering. Personally a little tip, take a week to wean into 12/12 (go 18/6, 17/7, 16/8, etc...) and keep with the 6500K flouros the first couple days of real 12/12. Switch to 5000K flouros when they start sprouting hairsa and the next 1.5-2 weeks of flowering. Then for mid-late flowering get them under the HPS. Weaning em limits the stretching and switching the light over only after being solidly in 12/12 really helps mitigate stress - instead of going from a new light and completely new "day" lengths it gets weaned into all of it gently.
of course growing autoflowers, its much easier... you put them under a flouro until they start to veg. Then you can put them under any light for any light cycle you want. Its that easy. They will flower then they are ready.
But...
Autoflower plants are plants that have been crossed with the Ruderalis strain and will flower much sooner. I think I have heard some plants finishing seed to bud in as little as 70 days? Although you may not want autoflowers, if you want a fast finishing flower - thats really your only option. Traditional Sativas and Indicas take 8-12 weeks to finish just the flowering process. The strain I am growing now if I started flowering today would finish September 17. And thats not accounting for vegetating - which is best to go until the plant is mature with Sativa/Indicas which can take 2 months on it's own. So an autoflower may be best, and you may have time to grow them and get a little bit of a cure in there for maximum taste and potency, before oct 19
Normally I dont recommend autoflowers but if you are in a bind and if you are in a country that has tough drug laws (Which you do lol) and really want to get your smoke on, they may be the best way to go. Maybe not the most potent stuff but they can get pretty close - and it sounds like you will have a low tolerance by the time they finish.
And stick with the flouros for vegging - or at least early vegging
(also, your link doesnt work, private listing/out of country)Also make sure on those flouros to look at the bulb. Should be a number somewhere on it - 2500K, 5000K, 6500K or similar. You want 6500K or 6700K. This number indicates the wavelength of light being put out by the bulb, and the 6000+ spectrum is closest to what the plants would expereince in nature during the summer vegetating months. Later during flowering you switch to 2500K/5000K or the HPS so it thinks its the winter sun and will start flowering. Personally a little tip, take a week to wean into 12/12 (go 18/6, 17/7, 16/8, etc...) and keep with the 6500K flouros the first couple days of real 12/12. Switch to 5000K flouros when they start sprouting hairsa and the next 1.5-2 weeks of flowering. Then for mid-late flowering get them under the HPS. Weaning em limits the stretching and switching the light over only after being solidly in 12/12 really helps mitigate stress - instead of going from a new light and completely new "day" lengths it gets weaned into all of it gently.
of course growing autoflowers, its much easier... you put them under a flouro until they start to veg. Then you can put them under any light for any light cycle you want. Its that easy. They will flower then they are ready.
CoolNameHere
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hey man i have them under the 2 t8 tube there bout 3foot long i c new growth now some true leaves btw my keyboard is broke have to improvise i think my plants r gonna be ok ill pot pic soon my room iz 2.8metre long 1.8 wide 2metre tall i have a 600w and 2 400w mh
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Marlboro47
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Add nutes man, they really need it.
Regular nitrogen feed+ cal/mag.
Read the back of the cal/mag most directions say you can add full strength cal/mag to full strength nitrogen nutes.
I would go 3/4 strength since your using coco.
Regular nitrogen feed+ cal/mag.
Read the back of the cal/mag most directions say you can add full strength cal/mag to full strength nitrogen nutes.
I would go 3/4 strength since your using coco.
welshsmoker
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nirvana pulled the sale of thier northern lights auto because of problems with them, looks like you got some of the bad lot, sorry to be the bringer of bad news but looks like they are fucked.
CoolNameHere
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oooo rly where did this info come from man? should i maybe email them...
and thankyou marlboro47 im nearly willing to try anything atm
welshsmoker
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sure i heard about it on one of theese threads, i did check and they had been pulled by all the stockists i looked at. give them an e mail mate, they are normally good with things like that.
Kingrow1
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Probably an unstable strain leading to un uniform growth habits, if enough growers complain about problems this is what will happen. I doubt it was because they went yellow as seedlings, probably more a yeild or height issue or somthing like that, if the genetics aint right they get binned and pulled. A plant that has problems growing is generally down to the grower not the seeds but i too am intrested why they pulled these seeds, e-mail em dude and find out so we can all know. Peace
CoolNameHere
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I'll email them today and let you all kno you c the pink cup the plant is gimpy looking has been since birth