13 Girls Have My Tent Pitched! Check Out This Grow!

solarguy

solarguy

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Rushed said:
Looks tasty, the ones under the grow bars are not as fat as the blackstar ones.
How much longeer do you think they will be in there?
When are you getting your flowering grow bars?
Can't wait to see them in action.
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should be done in a week, gonna have the grow bars in 60 days i hope...waiting for some custom chips with the right wavelengths...
 
323cheezy

323cheezy

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solarguy said:
I have never used the advanced leds, what kind of chips are used compared to the blackstar 3w?

Your 400watt HPS will take you a lot further than a 240 blackstar...the 400 watt hps will cover a 3x3-4x4 area fine...The 240's have enough coverage for 2 plants (4sq feet) on their own maybe...*also each 240 draws about 170-190watts...just like the 500's draw 280watts each.

Just to give you an idea, i had a 240 over each plant when i used them and 4 x 240's in a 4x4...It all comes down to what i have been saying and that is that...LED panels coverage is limited to their design! Also HPS lights are totally different animals than LEDs. I have never used LEDs as supplemental lighting because I believe LEDs for supplemental lighting are a waste and defeat the point of LEDs in the first place. You will end up using over 400watts of LED to cover what your 400watt HPS light can do and your yield will be less, so if growing for YIELD so I would just buy another HPS light haha.

Sure the supplemental LED might improve grow time and quality a little bit but your 400HPS is a beast compared to a 240 blackstar....read a few pages of this thread to understand...Hopefully I can design some growbars that allow LEDs to make sense when being compared or trying to replace a HID light. A lot of people don't realize that LEDs as we know them now and HID lighting are totally different animals and false LED claims have led people to try and usually fail and get upset with the results of LEDs. I would use 4 500's which is well over a 1000watts of blackstar leds to cover a 5x5 tent and a 1000HPS light will destroy a 5x5 area...this is what i am trying to change with the growbars in this grow! if I can get 200 watts to cover a 5x5 area i will change the LED game...

The reality is the blackstars are great but look at my 4x4 tent, i am using 2 500's = 560 watts total in LEDs...I'm pretty sure a 600watt hps would of doubled if not tripled my yield in this grow compared to the blackstars! But i got the LEDs because i cant deal with heat, cheaper over time vs bulb replacements, and good experiments!''
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Thank u solar.....
I was having this discussion with the guy at the dro shop..
Pretty much i understood that led wouldnt produce much yield...
And being more experienced ...i would nt complain if yield lacked...

What i did realize( and what u mentioned on already ) is that the 400 hps have two different light intesities (Also spectrum but that isnt the concern)...
Which wuld cancel out the led light... leading to a waste of a supplement...
I will however hopefully , get a led when i see one more affordable and efficent...
And just put one or two plant max in there own individual tent.....

I hear that even mixing a four hundred with a 6hundred doesnt work ...
That due to intensity .... 2 400's or 2 600's ...is the best way to go ...
Do u know this too be true??
Thanx a bunch.....
 
rick19011

rick19011

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Hey solarguy those led grow bars are now for sale from china and I know LED's from china arnt the best way to go but I did see that you said the 200w grow bar is $1200 which is no where near I can afford, I have the specs of these chinese led grow bars let me know what you think.
If you don't think they are suitable for growing marijuana then do you think they will be ok to grow indoor organic vegetables?
Bare in mind the price is $80 higher than it says as that is the price of shipping to europe.
Some of the panels in the picture are not the grow bars but some are and they have assured me they are the prices for the grow bars not the grow panels and the angle is 90.
http://imageshack.us/f/842/unledztq.png/
Thx
 
L

Lucius Vorenus

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rick19011 said:
Hey solarguy those led grow bars are now for sale from china and I know LED's from china arnt the best way to go but I did see that you said the 200w grow bar is $1200 which is no where near I can afford, I have the specs of these chinese led grow bars let me know what you think.
If you don't think they are suitable for growing marijuana then do you think they will be ok to grow indoor organic vegetables?
Bare in mind the price is $80 higher than it says as that is the price of shipping to europe.
Some of the panels in the picture are not the grow bars but some are and they have assured me they are the prices for the grow bars not the grow panels and the angle is 90.
http://imageshack.us/f/842/unledztq.png/
Thx
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Most LEDs are made in china. Including Blackstars. I think Haight is the only one that isn't but even then. No one knows REALLY.

That being said im using 2 240w Blackstars on a grow as a test run. They are 2 weeks into flower and bud sites are just now forming. I had to flush because the guy who was watching them let one of them pretty much die from mites. Im nursing it back now but being it's in flower it's pretty stressed.
 
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