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[karri0n]

Quit trying to conflate the existence of the concept of a thing and the actual existence a thing. We all know the difference and you are now just playing word games.

It's common knowledge that the various different gods exist as concepts and archetypes; personifications that Man uses as a tool to relate to and understand the grand divine. Their ability to affect reality comes from the source that Man draws them from, but their individual characteristics and aspects that they rule over come from the characteristics Men attribute to them.

 

[olylifter420]

then it would be impossible to say it is the way it is because it is the way it is... that to is an assumption, so your question is meaningless to me as mine are meaningless to yours...

I believe that God put all these things here for us to discover and find out more about what he has done for us... He has given things to expand our knowledge as a people and has given us science to better understand things through the scientific methods.

there will always be people who will oppose God and people who accept God, why is totally up to that person and their preferences and what they choose to believe in. There is nothing that another person can tell you that will change what you believe in. I understand your skepticism and wish i could say something that would make you reconsider your position, but i respect what you believe in and as such wish you the best in your life. Your mind is made up and i doubt you will not keep your word especially to yourself.

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Maybe he hasn't answered because you are assuming an answer in your question. Why do you think we were 'selected' for this planet and solar system? What does the color of the sun have to do with anything? Why weren't you born thousands of years in the future? Your questions are meaningless because they don't have any real answers unless you make certain assumptions. Why can't things be just the way they are because that's the way they are?

 

[olylifter420]

Also, then why has there been evidence about Australopithecus africanus and paranthopus robustus engaging in somewhat religious practices and ceremonial burials?

 

[beardo]

55 pages and God still Rules!!!

 

[olylifter420]

they to could have understood there is a higher power which created them, but lacked the mental function capacity to document it.

also, how can you make so many assumptions when all the conquistadores that drove the incas, myans, aztecs and other Native Indian tribes to extinction burned 90% or more of all their documented work?

Also, then why has there been evidence about Australopithecus africanus and paranthopus robustus engaging in somewhat religious practices and ceremonial burials?

 

[olylifter420]

I guess no one wants to respond. Fair

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

they to could have understood there is a higher power which created them, but lacked the mental function capacity to document it.

also, how can you make so many assumptions when all the conquistadores that drove the incas, myans, aztecs and other Native Indian tribes to extinction burned 90% or more of all their documented work?

it was easy to explain the unexplained with a god or higher being , they used to think floods and lightning strikes were acts of gods lol
its funny how they didnt all come up with the same god though , and still today depending on what part of the planet you are from depends on what god you believe in , you cant surely believe theres a seperate god for each bit of land mass on the earth ?

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

I guess no one wants to respond. Fair

calm down , not everyone is glued to this forum 24 / 7

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

55 pages and God still Rules!!!

wich god are you on about ?

 

[Beansly]

Quantum physics is proving that life after death is a reality and that it doesn't matter your beliefs or your god to get you there.
https://www.rollitup.org/spirituali...4060-quantum-physics-proposes-life-after.html

 

[olylifter420]

Quantum physics gave rise the quantum leap show, we all know how true that was.

Quantum physics is proving that life after death is a reality and that it doesn't matter your beliefs or your god to get you there.
https://www.rollitup.org/spirituali...4060-quantum-physics-proposes-life-after.html

 

[olylifter420]

How does that explain anything? Thats just chibberish a 2nd grader can come up qith.

If that is all you can come up with, then I dont credit anything you say.

it was easy to explain the unexplained with a god or higher being , they used to think floods and lightning strikes were acts of gods lol
its funny how they didnt all come up with the same god though , and still today depending on what part of the planet you are from depends on what god you believe in , you cant surely believe theres a seperate god for each bit of land mass on the earth ?

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

so what is it your saying cause humans used to believe in gods then they must exist ?
i dont credit anything you say , you are abusive and all you do is try to come up with rediculous questions thinking somehow if someone cant answer them then it makes your beliefs true .
so what if neandethal man believed in a god ? wtf is your point ?

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

How does that explain anything? Thats just chibberish a 2nd grader can come up qith.

If that is all you can come up with, then I dont credit anything you say.

if you dont credit anything i say then dont come in my thread asking your 2nd grader questions , you've been owned on every post you posted, and have now resorted to following me around other threads, being insulting and trying to trick others into thinking you have somehow beaten me in debate in my own thread .
this is the problem with debating people like you , once your futile questions have been answerd in a way wich doesnt match up with what you have been taught to believe , you turn to insulting or threatining hell on people .

 

[olylifter420]

No, that is what you said. what i am saying is that you question things and even the things that you side with, evolution, several hominid species engaged in religious practices. That shows that religion has been here since we have been evolving. Like i said before, you interpret it the way you want to, but the evidence is right there.

Even A. africanus, which was not the most intellectually gifted hominid, have the mind to believe in a higher power. Im not saying that they are dumb, on the contrary, they were very smart, but lacked cerebral adaptations to document what they believed in...

so what is it your saying cause humans used to believe in gods then they must exist ?
i dont credit anything you say , you are abusive and all you do is try to come up with rediculous questions thinking somehow if someone cant answer them then it makes your beliefs true .
so what if neandethal man believed in a god ? wtf is your point ?

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

No, that is what you said. what i am saying is that you question things and even the things that you side with, evolution, several hominid species engaged in religious practices. That shows that religion has been here since we have been evolving. Like i said before, you interpret it the way you want to, but the evidence is right there.

Even A. africanus, which was not the most intellectually gifted hominid, have the mind to believe in a higher power. Im not saying that they are dumb, on the contrary, they were very smart, but lacked cerebral adaptations to document what they believed in...

yes its common knowledge that humans have allways believed in a higher being and have used them as a way to explain things they wernt able to do with science ,
but still no evidence that any god anyone has ever believed in is true .
the more we find out through science the easier it is to discredit higher beings or gods .

 

[Heisenberg]

No, that is what you said. what i am saying is that you question things and even the things that you side with, evolution, several hominid species engaged in religious practices. That shows that religion has been here since we have been evolving. Like i said before, you interpret it the way you want to, but the evidence is right there.

Even A. africanus, which was not the most intellectually gifted hominid, have the mind to believe in a higher power. Im not saying that they are dumb, on the contrary, they were very smart, but lacked cerebral adaptations to document what they believed in...

Okay so you have a theory oly. You made a hypotheses and came up with some supporting evidence. The next step is to try to falsify your theory. Only by surviving attempts to be made false, can a claim be considered true. Essentially your claim is that because higher thinking individuals have always adapted deity worship into their culture, this suggests there is some truth to it. So to falsify, can you think of any beliefs which have been around for a substantial amount of time which we know to be untrue? Doesn't the old fallback, Santa Clause, qualify as such? People have believed in Santa for a very very long time, and the belief transcends culture and geographic location. Even if at one time there was indeed a sort of Santa Clause, does that fact give any more weight to what we believe today? If people believed in Santa from the beginning of time, would it make him any more real? We know there is no Santa, hes a myth, and that is exactly what we call unproven beliefs that were shared by our ancestors, myths. So really, what does your research prove except that the belief in god has been around for a long time? It is OK to make the assumption you did, but as you see, your assumption does not survive falsification. The responsible thing to do is abandon the theory. Unfortunately when we are talking about objective evidence, you do not have the luxury of interpreting it as you see fit.

 

[olylifter420]

So who is the one doing all the name calling?

come on christians fuckin debate if your so real it should be no problem .

i bet no fucker will debate with me cause they know deep down there belief is total nonsense .

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

So who is the one doing all the name calling?

lol there is no name calling in those two quotes lol


'come on christians fuckin debate if your so real it should be no problem '.


'i bet no fucker will debate with me cause they know deep down there belief is total nonsense' .

 

[RawBudzski]

Lets MassDebate.. as a matter of fact have you seen that thread about your fav porn stars? thats the best thread to MassDebate in... i just got done MassDebating so hard to thoes midget pics.. so whats the topic were massdebating to in here.