IMMA A NOOB. BUt you can help me become the best. Help please im really serious.

Please forgive me i i misread it. But sounded like you didn't know what the fuck was going on. Now we learn you do. With your experience, it sounds like all you need then is a push and no more. Push. I mean what kind of push are we supposed to be giving you? Maybe budshots of our harvests as encouragement or? Watch mr green i grow chronic. If you are unable to build yourself a grow from what is explained int eh video, then i repeat, chances are you will not be making this transition to all knowing ;)

all the info you need is on youtube and this forum, that is more than any info, that's all the info you'll need :) People on these forums are more than happy to help, but within reason. Something that caught my eye was you asking for lighting shcedules aand then state one of the two used, how are you unable to read up on this second number yourself? We'll help but few will be willing to spoon feed.
YO please im not trying to seem naive. I just saw something that caught my eye. The pics would be cool. I do understand the vid yea, But idk wtf or never heard of a growing medium you know. POT GROWERS terms fuck me up I dont know your lingo. Plus lights, seeds, timers, what kind of pumps i should use is a little overwhelming at first glance. I can learn this, but i need help I never fuck the soil I just want to try this. How about Deep Water Culture method. I just wanted to grow purple, and other high octane weeds. I figured this was the only. I honestly didnt think you could get purp from soil.
 









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Grow: The Hempy Buckets Technique

April 20th, 2009 by Silvio

Today, I want to offer our readers the easiest and most cost-efficient way to grow marijuana indoors (that I know of.) It’s called Hempy Bucket and even for beginners it’s easy and cheap to do, yet very rewarding.
So on with the show, let’s get started!

You will need the following items:

Cups: I use plastic soda bottles, party cups, or anything more or less the same size. The vessel must be light proof. Go for 0.2 liter cups to start with, and transplant later on to bigger buckets.

Buckets: Choosing the size of the buckets is dependent upon your strain. A Lowryder will not need a 10 liter bucket. 5 liter will do. Just check your local hardware store for paint buckets or something similar.

Perlite: Some growers say to use a vermiculite/perlite mixture. I use perlite only. Personally, I like it more; it can be washed afterwards and used again.

Rockwool Cubes: Use the small ones you see in the picture above. 3cm x 3cm.

Nutrition: The brand that gave me the best results, is Dutch Formula and Superthrive.

Equipment: Use a syringe, or another type of measuring device. You can find them in pharmacies. The nutrition will have be mixed into the water. You are dealing with 1ml measures here and it’s essential that you get this precisely measured. This will be the only food your plants will ever get. There is nothing nutritional in the perlite itself.

Now you need an apparatus to catch run-off water. This can be virtually anything, because there won’t be a lot of excess water to collect. This basin is just there to catch water draining out of your Hempy buckets. You can use just about anything, from party plates to huge crate bins. Be creative.
The most expensive item on the list will be without a doubt, the nutrition. The set is made of three bottles. You will need them all and they will cost you around $70 for the set. However, they will last you through multiple grows. (Note: You will be measuring in milliliters.)

With Hempy buckets, there’s actually nothing to build. All you have to do is, make a hole in the buckets, about the size of a penny, more or less two fingers above the bottom and that’s it.
Prepare your seeds. Over night, let the rockwool cubes rest in water to moisten before use. Let excess water run off, but do not, ever, squeeze them. If growing via Hempy method, make a tiny hole (2-3mm deep) in the cubes, and drop a seed in there. Rip a little piece of the rockwool from a corner, and use it to cover the hole with the seed in it.
Leave them in a dark, warm place for one or two days. After that, put them on a windowsill into direct sunlight. Make sure they get as much sun as possible, and spray them with water every now and then. After 3-8 days, you will have a sprouting seedling. At this point, do not give it any nutrition yet.

After a few days on your windowsill, the plants should show some growth. Don’t lose patience. It can take up to two weeks until you see a 3-5cm tall seedling with some green, round leaves. Keep a close eye on the rockwool cubes. As soon as you see roots making their way out of the cube, it’s time to move your babies into their first home.

Preparing the Hempys: Before you move your seedlings into the Hempys, wash the perlite you’re about to use. There will be fine particles in the perlite, which can form clumps so use a colander and rinse these particles off.

That’s it. You have a successfully rooted seedlings in a Hempy Bucket. Feed them water only, for the first week. After that, you can start with 1/4 strength of Dutch Formula and work your way up to full strength. You should arrive at full strength after maybe four weeks. When watering/feeding your plants, make sure you don’t water the rockwool — water around it. There’s really no way to over-water, because the perlite wont hold any water for a long time, it’ll all end up in the reservoir at the bottom of the cup/bucket.
Growth will be slow in the beginning. The roots have to get to the water first. Once they do, you will see an explosion in growth. I transplant my ladies always just before flowering into a bigger bucket. But that also depends a lot on what strain I grow. Right now, I am only growing Lowryder. Since these plants stay very small, I never had the need for a bigger pot. So, they stay from seed to harvest in a 1.5 liter mini bucket.
Okay, class is over. As usual, fire away with any questions or comments or even share your own personal experiences with the Hempy method. Until then, happy growing… and Happy 420!






22 Comments


  1. rotarypot Says:
    April 20th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    as this is a cost efficient method no mention of lighting requirements is done, i am guessing that old skool sun and that’s it right?
  2. Silvio Says:
    April 20th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
    works under sunlight the same way as it does indoors. and i cant see why it shouldn’t. i’ve never grown hempys outdoors myself, but i do know people who did. with good results.
    where you get your light from, doesn’t really matter. as long as it is sufficient for your plant. just make sure you don’t start growing outdoors in september… ;)
    but if you read the article closely, it says in the intro that it is a “indoor” technique. so i didnt bother pointing out light sources.
  3. swishersNerb Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
    would i be able to start my seedlings out in soil then move them to the perlite mixture once they are big enough?
  4. Silvio Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
    i switched from soil to perlite in the early stage of flowering once. i had to clean the roots, so that almost no soil was left. then into the hempy, and all was good. the growth was stunned for maybe 3 days, and after that everything went back to normal. so yes, can be done.
    i wouldnt recommend it tho. if you are early in your grow, wait until your plants have 3 or more sets of true leafs. and if you are in flowering stage…as i said…can be done, but it can go horribly wrong.
    what’s your situation? how old are the plants, or is that a hypothetical question?
  5. John D. Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    legit bro
  6. swishersNerb Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    Well I’m a noob to whole grow game and I was just wondering what other ways I can start my plants out other than the rockwool cube method cause I’m having trouble tracking them down (or I’m too high and just aint looking at the right places).
  7. Silvio Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    where are you located? in the US?
    and you can always try ebay…example
  8. swishersNerb Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    I’m in alberta, canada. Yeah true enough ebay has everything.
  9. Silvio Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
    also: dont forget that the rockwool cube helps stabilizing the plant. if you would put a plant in there without the cube, the chances that it falls over are very high. i just remembered that i had to use a bigger cube than the one i showed you in the ebay link, wrapped around the stem in order to give the plant stability when i transplanted from soil to hempy (cut it open, wrap around the stem and secure with a string). perlite is not like soil, if you would put a seed in it without the cube for example, i guess the seed would get flushed down to the bottom of the bucket. and if its not flushed down, it would fall over as soon as it sprouts. and small plants with little roots…very likely that goes wrong. i wouldnt try that.
    you could construct some sort of supporting system with strings….but why go that far if you can do it right from start….
  10. swishersNerb Says:
    April 21st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
    yeah for sure, thanks for the advice!
  11. Keyes Says:
    April 24th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
    I don’t understand about light – are you saying that incandescent or fluorescent light is ok? I’ve yet to grow
    a plant, but am studying up for my first crop. My reading
    so far indicates the use of Metal Halide, High Pressure
    Sodium, and High Intensity Discharge. It would be welcome
    news if there’s a lower cost alternative.
  12. Silvio Says:
    April 24th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
    you can grow a plant under any light you want. general rule of thumb: more wattage is more bud. you can use fluros, if you want to. will work just fine, in the beginning anyway.
    if you are serious about getting good results, i would recommend a 400w hps. but you also combine whatever light sources you can find. as i said: more watt: more, bud.
  13. Drazboy20 Says:
    May 28th, 2009 at 8:01 am
    So with this method how often do I water and when I do water do I mix and use soultion evrrytime or do I alternate feeding then plain water or what
  14. D.B. Kooper Says:
    May 31st, 2009 at 8:22 am
    Say,
    How about the water method, from water to dirt, starting with a seed in water, then moving on to dirt for budding?
    And, what’s the lumin factor or wattage for the bulb’s when budding?
  15. ronnie Says:
    August 6th, 2009 at 5:08 am
    how do you apply the superthrive? I can buy it at Walmarts but very hard time finding the Dutch Formula any where but online. Thanks
  16. rasmyles Says:
    September 21st, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Is it possible to use general chemical fertelizers (Jacks Classic)with hempy or does it have to be hydro fertilizers
  17. Tarzan Says:
    November 4th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    I think there should be a overall total of what the estimated price would be for all this. Other than that, great article.
  18. david wayne Says:
    November 13th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    What about temperature, the attic gets cold as ever in the winter and too hot in summer, would a small closet with an inclosed plastic sheeting to sort of keep the temp relatively the same around 68-72 degree, or is there a certain temp to achieve for better result.
    Also: will keeping the light on all the time be bad (even if not too close) or should they get rest?
  19. tim Says:
    January 10th, 2010 at 6:01 am
    What are the red drinking cups for?
    What did you do to the perlite after you washed it in the colander? I think you put the perlite into the bucket.
    Then what? did you put the rockwool cube right on top of the perlite? Won’t that crush the roots?
    And then you just water the perlite around the rockwool cube for a week? Once a day? Constantly?
    You say “You have a successfully rooted seedlings in a Hempy Bucket” but there is no transition or anything after you wash the perlite in the colander. Thanks
  20. Dan Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    im actualy going to try this this season.
    i was debating on outdoor or indoor but im growing 2 kush strains and only a few plants so theres no reason for outdoor
    it is definately the most simplistic way to go about an indor that ive seen soo far.
  21. hempy jones Says:
    November 4th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    save your money on the nutes,use osmocote plus. this guy did a comparison on the fancy nutes and oc+ in a hempy, by the end he switched them all to oc+ because the ones on the fancy stuff was lagging way behind.
    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/completed-journals/101558-docbuds-hempy-grow.html
    long read but very informative. if you’re interested it is a chance to see a full grow in action
  22. hempy jones Says:
    November 4th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
    oops, wrong link that one was also a hempy grow but here’s the one where he found out the osmocote plus worked better.
    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/journals-progress/116408-un-lucky-queen-12-12-hempy.html
    just trying to save yall some $$$

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but on other hand see how quick i found hempy buckets ?
same amount of time u could have found it instead of asking for him to explain and post pics
he gave u a lead follow it to see if it works for your needs
 
then learn with soil or several rubbermaid dwc before u spend a grand on a hydro unit
then u got to buy lights and then build a grow room or a tent
think big start small then go balls out
and tip top is telling u some good advice
Whats Square 1 then. I only wanna grow purp and other high octanes weeds
 
Please forgive me i i misread it. But sounded like you didn't know what the fuck was going on. Now we learn you do. With your experience, it sounds like all you need then is a push and no more. Push. I mean what kind of push are we supposed to be giving you? Maybe budshots of our harvests as encouragement or? Watch mr green i grow chronic. If you are unable to build yourself a grow from what is explained int eh video, then i repeat, chances are you will not be making this transition to all knowing ;)

all the info you need is on youtube and this forum, that is more than any info, that's all the info you'll need :) People on these forums are more than happy to help, but within reason. Something that caught my eye was you asking for lighting shcedules aand then state one of the two used, how are you unable to read up on this second number yourself? We'll help but few will be willing to spoon feed.
Its not like i wont, you know i always made good grades in school because i always asked for help before i just jumped in. I can comprehend what your saying i just want your opinion and some pro's and cons be gracious with the knowledge you have. I humble myself to ask. Be modest and teach. I seen the lighting schedules on a site. I did a little reading i just want to know from people who already did it.
 

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sup man i'm about to start my first grow as well, i've been reading a shitload. this'll be good for me.

from what i can tell, here is SQUARE ONE for equipment:

1. GROWING MEDIUM.
. The growing medium is what the plant's roots will be in. What will your plants be growing out of? Soil? Or do you want to go hydro/areoponics, in which case will you use rockwool, perlite, vermiculite or coco? Those are all basically bags of pellets (hence the ebb/flow/flushing) and it seems like people get beefy ass plants out of hydro/areopponics. But you can grow any strain in any medium. As far as I can tell soil is the best for beginners just because there's so much OTHER shit you need to get experience in before you get into next-level growing mediums. Soil is the easiest by far. 5 gallons of soil per plant is on the high end, it seems like 3 gallons is the average.
. You also have to decide what the soil goes in. Fabric pots are the semi-new thing that's sweeping the soil growing scene. It gives you some of the benefits of a hydroponic or aeroponic system (providing airflow to the roots, preventing them from getting cramped) without a bunch of pumps and timers and tubes and shit. And they're pretty cheap. Google "smartpots" or "rootpots" or "ecopots" and you'll find some. I can't think of any reason to use a plastic or terra cotta pot now that these are around.
. If you're going with hydroponics or aeroponics, you obviously need a system to run it. Google around to find out more about the equipment for a hydro/aeroponics system. They're expensive.

2. NUTRIENTS.
. Nutrients are simple but complicated, and fairly expensive as well. Most companies have feeding schedules with instructions for how much you should use and when. It's up to you whether you go organic or synthetic or mix. It seems like synthetics are easier to work with.

3. LIGHTS.
A. What kind of lights do you want? Most people use High Intensity Discharge (HID) bulbs. The basic types are Metal Halide (MH) and High Pressure Sodium (HPS), but there are other, more modern versions of HID lamps (pulse starts, ceramics, google it if you're interested, CMH bulbs seem awesome). You can also go with fluorescent tubes, Compact Fluorescents (CFLs), or LEDs. From what people say, LED technology isn't quite where we all want it to be yet, and costs too much. A lot of people say fluorescent lighting isn't strong enough, but you can also find a ton of people who grow quite successfully with just fluoros. If you go fluorescent, get a T5. There are T8s and T12s, but the T5 has the best output. Unlike other lighting questions, which T of fluorescent to go with is an easy answer. The numbers indicate different bulb widths; T5s run the same amount of electricity through a smaller chamber so they have better output. The energy from a fluorescent drops drastically after about 6 inches away from the bulb.
. Most people recommend you just go with HID. They suggest using MH for the vegetative stage (generally an 18 hours of light/6 hours of darkness cycle) which lasts from 2 weeks to 2 months (depending on whether you start from seed or clone and what strain it is) and switching to HPS for the flowering stage (12/12 cycle, usually under two months). This is because the vegetative stage requires a lot of blue spectrum light and the flowering stage requires a lot of red spectrum light. MH shines blue, HPS shines orange. The streetlights you see overhead at night- the whitish ones are MH and the orange ones are HPS.
B. How many lights? The common minimum I hear online is 50 watts per square foot using HID. Another minimum I hear is 7500 lumens (units of light) per square foot, but lately a lot of people have been pointing out that lumens are only good for measuring light the eye can see. Plants don't have eyes; research is suggesting they don't really care about lumens. It seems like for now wattage is a better way to measure the Photosynthetically Active Radiation (PAR) output of your lamp. -By the way, don't google "PAR bulb", it's not for growing, it just has the same acronym.
. So, you need to measure your space and find the square footage. More watts per BULB is not always better. A lot of people suggest that two 400 watts are better than a single 1000 watt because you get a better light spread. The amount of light energy drops exponentially the further you are from the bulb. Also remember that basically no usable light comes out of the tips of an HID bulb, only the sides.
C. Horizontal or vertical bulbs? Most bulbs are either horizontal or vertical (they do make bulbs that can go either way) and if you position them wrong you will break them. If you don't know about vertical growing, check it out. A bulb hangs vertically in the center of the room with plants around it. This provides lighting to their sides, which you don't get much of from a horizontal bulb. On the other hand, only half the plant is being lit at a time, so you'll need to rotate your plants individually. Whether you want to go horizontal or vertical depends on your space, I guess, or just your preference.
. Most HID bulbs start producing less light at about half their rated lifespan (what it says on the box), so they should be replaced pretty soon after that. A full year of growing seems to be the average actual lifespan of an HID. More modern HIDs have longer lifespans. Fluorescent bulbs last around 18 months before they go bad. Even LEDs fail eventually, but they last for like 6 years. You'll need to record how many hours each bulb is used as you use them.

4. ACCESSORIES.
A. Lighting accessories. An HID light needs a ballast, a fixture, a reflector/hood, and a timer. Light timers are like under 20 bucks and shouldn't be hard to find at a hardware/gardening store. They're really easy to use, too. Don't worry about the timer at all.
. Your bulb screws into your fixture(socket), which plugs into your ballast, which plugs into the wall. You need a ballast that matches your bulb in wattage and type. There are digital ballasts and magnetic "core and coil" or "cap and coil" ballasts; it's suggested you go with a digital nowadays to save money on electricity and because of some other neato stuff. Most modern ballasts are also switchable between MH and HPS bulbs AND wattages.
. A horizontal bulb needs a reflector above it; otherwise half the light is utterly wasted. A hood is a closed reflector with duct holes so you can vent heat from it with an inline fan. There are also things called "cool tubes", clear plastic tubes that surround the bulb so you can blow air over it, which I've been told are great for vertical bulbs.
. You can find preassembled units that even have reflectors/hoods, or you can buy the ballast, fixture and reflector/hood all separate.
B. Misc. accessories. The things in this section are less necessary. Carbon filters, fans, ducting, chains, reflective foil and random crap. Ducting is for fans and the chains are to hang your lights. The reflective foil is for the walls of your room and it's pretty cheap; there's no reason not to get it.
. There are two reasons to use carbon filters: to purify the air entering your room and two reduce the smell of the air leaving your room. It's DEFINITELY suggested that you get a carbon filter, but it isn't strictly necessary, and is less important in a sealed room.
. If your room is really hot or you really really want to turn your plants purple, you'll need an air conditioner.
. Most fans' powers are measured in Cubic Feet per Minute (CFM). Ideally you want to move all the air in your room in one minute. Cubic feet in case you weren't sure is length times width times height. You want a fan to reduce the heat in your room, to bring fresh air in and push old air out (unless you're doing a sealed environment grow), and because moving air a. reduces chances of a mold problem, b. makes stronger stems and c. helps spread CO2 around the room- even if you aren't adding any C02, it's a heavy gas and will settle to the floor in a stagnant room. Inline fans are for venting the entire room; you'll also want like a desk/wall fan to move air around inside.
. That brings us to "random crap". Get a cheap wall thermometer for sure, there's no reason not to. You want your room to be between 75 and 85 degrees F. And then there's random advanced crap, like pH meters, humidity meters, Parts Per Million meters for your nutrients or air, and CO2 generators. That's all pretty tech, and none of it is required. I'm not 100% on where the pH should be.. I should research that. I think it's around 6.5, but it might vary between strains. Humidity should be around 50%. They aren't NECESSARY, but a pH meter, humidity meter and ppm meter are all really good ideas. Most nutrients will give you a teaspoons to gallon ratio on the label for soil and hydroponics, so a ppm meter isn't necessary. And a CO2 generator is fucking expensive.


General pricing guide:
. High-watt HID bulbs are around $50 each. Ballast-fixture-reflector systems are around $200 total each (lower if purchased in separate pieces). T5 fluoroscent lights run around $20 per foot of coverage if you buy them with a fixture, and T5 bulbs are usually under $10. LED prices vary, but they're all expensive.
. A 9 gallon bag of soil is like under 15 bucks. Fabric pots range from $5 to $10 depending on how big it is.
. Fan prices are all over the frickin' place and vary depending on their CFM, but expect to pay anywhere from $60 to $200 for an inline. Regular household fans are under $40 generally.
. Reflective foil is fairly cheap; if you have a small room you can cover the walls for under 20 bucks. pH and ppm meters are like 20 bucks, timers are under 20 bucks, good chain is like $3 a foot. Idk how much ducting costs. And go get a damn thermometer at the dollar store, whatever.
. The price of your nutrients obviously depends on how much you're growing and for how long, but if this helps any the average seems to be sightly over ten dollars a quart.
- These are all prices for brand new shit, used stuff is obviously cheaper. Probably shouldn't get used bulbs though. Or growing medium.

. Before you get any electrical equipment, you need to consider your power bill. Most areas in the US charge between 15 and 25 cents per kilowatthour. Kilo=1000, a 1000w light uses a kilowatt per hour= 1 kwh. A 3 month grow is around 1200 hours, at 20 cents per kwh that averages to $80 a month. That doesn't include fan wattage, which is anywhere from 50 to 150, supplemental lighting, etc. Get a calculator.

. If you want an incredibly broad generalization on yield, here it is. Each square foot will yield between one and two ounces if properly lit (at least 50 watts of HID). A noob should expect one, a pro should expect two. If you get less than one, you screwed up. If you get more than two, we should hang out.



So, basically that's what you'll need to start growing. All of this stuff can be purchased online, in hardware/gardening stores, and I've even found some of it in thrift shops. Before you get ANY of it, you should grid your space out with as much detail as possible. On graph paper. Here's a link for some free customizable graph paper. http://incompetech.com/graphpaper/

NOOB- POWERS- ACTIVATE! FORM OF- A GANGSTAPIMP!
 
sup man i'm about to start my first grow as well, i've been reading a shitload. this'll be good for me.

from what i can tell, here is SQUARE ONE for equipment:

1. GROWING MEDIUM.
The growing medium is what the plant's roots will be in. What will your plants be growing out of? Soil? Or do you want to go hydro/areoponics, in which case will you use rockwool, perlite, vermiculite or coco? Those are all basically bags of pellets (hence the ebb/flow/flushing) and it seems like people get beefy ass plants out of hydro/areopponics. But you can grow any strain in any medium. As far as I can tell soil is the best for beginners just because there's so much OTHER shit you need to get experience in before you get into next-level growing mediums. Soil is the easiest by far. 5 gallons of soil per plant is on the high end, it seems like 3 gallons is the average.
I'm gonna do soil in fabric pots. Fabric pots are the semi-new thing that's sweeping the soil growing scene. It gives you some of the benefits of a hydroponic or aeroponic system (providing airflow to the roots) without a bunch of pumps and timers and tubes and shit. And they're pretty cheap. Google "smartpots" or "rootpots" or "ecopots" and you'll find some.

2. LIGHTS.
A. What kind of lights do you want? Most people use High Intensity Discharge (HID) bulbs. The basic types are Metal Halide (MH) and High Pressure Sodium (HPS), but there are other, more modern versions of HID lamps (pulse starts, ceramics, google it if you're interested, CMH bulbs seem awesome). You can also go with fluorescent tubes, Compact Fluorescents (CFLs), or LEDs. From what people say, LED technology isn't quite where we all want it to be yet, and costs too much. A lot of people say fluorescent lighting isn't strong enough, but you can also find a ton of people who grow quite successfully with just fluoros. Most people recommend you just go with HID. They suggest using MH for the vegetative stage (generally an 18 hours of light/6 hours of darkness cycle) which lasts from 2 weeks to 2 months depending on whether you start from seed or clone and what strain it is) and switching to HPS for the flowering stage (12/12 cycle, usually under two months). This is because the vegetative stage requires a lot of blue spectrum light and the flowering stage requires a lot of red spectrum light. MH shines blue, HPS shines orange. The streetlights you see overhead at night- the whitish ones are MH and the orange ones are HPS.
B. How many lights? The common minimum I hear online is 50 watts per square foot using HID. Another minimum I hear is 7500 lumens (units of light) per square foot, but lately a lot of people have been pointing out that lumens are only good for measuring light the eye can see. Plants don't have eyes; research is suggesting they don't really care about lumens. It seems like for now wattage is a better way to measure the output of Photosynthetically Active Radiation (PAR) of your lamp. -By the way, don't google "PAR bulb", it's not for growing, it just has the same acronym.
So, you need to measure your space and find the square footage. More watts per BULB is not always better. A lot of people suggest that two 400 watts are better than a single 1000 watt because you get a better light spread. The amount of light energy drops exponentially the further you are from the bulb. Also remember that basically no usable light comes out of the tips of an HID bulb, only the sides.
C. Horizontal or vertical bulbs? Most bulbs are either horizontal or vertical (they do make bulbs that can go either way) and if you position them wrong you will break them. If you don't know about vertical growing, check it out. A bulb hangs vertically in the center of the room with plants around it. This provides lighting to their sides, which you don't get much of from a horizontal bulb. On the other hand, only half the plant is being lit at a time, so you'll need to rotate your plants individually. Whether you want to go horizontal or vertical depends on your space, I guess, or just your preference. I'm going horizontal; I only have a 4x4 area.

3. ACCESSORIES.
A. Lighting accessories. An HID light needs a ballast, a fixture, a reflector/hood, and a timer. Light timers are like under 20 bucks and shouldn't be hard to find at a hardware/gardening store. They're really easy to use, too. Don't worry about the timer at all.
Your bulb screws into your fixture(socket), which plugs into your ballast, which plugs into the wall. You need a ballast that matches your bulb in wattage and type. There are digital ballasts and magnetic "core and coil" or "cap and coil" ballasts; it's suggested you go with a digital nowadays to save money on electricity and because of some other neato stuff. Most modern ballasts are also switchable between MH and HPS bulbs AND wattages.
A horizontal bulb needs a reflector above it; otherwise half the light is utterly wasted. A hood is a closed reflector with duct holes so you can vent heat from it with an inline fan. There are also things called "cool tubes", clear plastic tubes that surround the bulb so you can blow air over it, which i've been told are great for vertical bulbs.
You can find preassembled kits that even have reflectors/hoods, or you can buy the ballast, fixture and reflector/hood all separate.
B. Misc. accessories. The things in this section are less necessary. Carbon filters, fans, ducting, chains, reflective foil and random crap. Ducting is for fans and the chains are to hang your lights. The reflective foil is for the walls of your room; there's basically no reason not to get it.
There are two reasons to use carbon filters: to purify the air entering your room and two reduce the smell of the air leaving your room. It's DEFINITELY suggested that you get a carbon filter, but it isn't strictly necessary, and is much less important in a sealed room.
Most fans' powers are measured in Cubic Feet per Minute (CFM). Apparently, you ideally want to move all the air in your room in one minute. Cubic feet in case you weren't sure is length times width times height. You want a fan to reduce the heat in your room, to bring fresh air in and push old air out (unless you're doing a sealed environment grow), and because moving air a. reduces chances of a mold problem, b. makes stronger stems and c. helps spread CO2 around the room- even if you aren't adding any C02, it's a heavy gas and will settle to the floor in a stagnant room. Inline fans are for venting the entire room; you'll also want like a desk/wall fan to move air around inside.
That brings us to "random crap". Get a cheap wall thermometer for sure, there's no reason not to. From what I've read you want your room to be between 65 and 85 degrees F, but i'm not totally sure what it should be. And then there's random advanced crap, like pH meters (very useful though, and only like 20 bucks), Parts Per Million meters for your nutrients or air, and CO2 generators. That's all pretty tech, and none of it is required. I'm not 100% on where the pH should be.. I should research that. Most nutrients will give you a teaspoons to gallon ratio on the label for soil and hydroponics (it's a higher ratio for hydro because the medium doesn't hold water or nutrients), so a ppm meter isn't necessary. And a CO2 generator is fucking expensive.

General pricing guide:
High-watt HID bulbs are around $50 each. Ballast-fixture-reflector systems are around $200 total each (lower if purchased in separate pieces). A 9 gallon bag of soil is like under 15 bucks. Fabric pots range from $5 to $10 depending on how big it is. Fan prices are all over the frickin' place and vary depending on their CFM, but except to pay $100 or more. Reflective foil is fairly cheap; if you have a small room you can cover the walls for under $20.

Before you get any electrical equipment, you need to consider your power bill. Most areas in the US charge between 15 and 25 cents per kilowatthour. Kilo=1000, a 1000w light uses a kilowatt per hour. A 3 month grow is around 1200 hours, at 20 cents pkwh that averages to $80 a month.



So, basically that's everything I've learned about the actual equipment you'll need in a grow room. All of this stuff can be purchased online, in hardware/gardening stores, and I've even managed to find some of it in thrift shops.

NOOB- POWERS- ACTIVATE! FORM OF- A GANGSTAPIMP!
Thanks I think this is all the info im gonna need. For now, I'll upload pictures and show you guys what im trying to do.
 

sweetarded

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fasho. another thing- purple color in cannabis is caused by cold air. there are strains called grandaddy purple or so-and-so purple, but they'll still be green unless you have an air conditioner. oh snap, i'm gonna add "air conditioner" to miscellaneous crap
 

tip top toker

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YO please im not trying to seem naive. I just saw something that caught my eye. The pics would be cool. I do understand the vid yea, But idk wtf or never heard of a growing medium you know. POT GROWERS terms fuck me up I dont know your lingo. Plus lights, seeds, timers, what kind of pumps i should use is a little overwhelming at first glance. I can learn this, but i need help I never fuck the soil I just want to try this. How about Deep Water Culture method. I just wanted to grow purple, and other high octane weeds. I figured this was the only. I honestly didnt think you could get purp from soil.
Teachers teach, they do this via teaching materials such as text books, not by telling the children that the answers are in the abck of the book. I have supplied you with a "textbook" already. The simple fact of the matter is you are being lazy, as you have proven by your response to Sweetarded. Notice how he states he has read a lot, all the inof he then put down was because he did his homework. You would know this jsut as he does, if you did your own research. People aren't going to grow your cannabis for you.

Here's a hint, maybe give things more than a first glance and aybe just maybe you'll understand what is going on. You say you want to learn, you don't learn by glances, you learn by getting absorbed in the material.
 

fabfun

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Teachers teach, they do this via teaching materials such as text books, not by telling the children that the answers are in the abck of the book. I have supplied you with a "textbook" already. The simple fact of the matter is you are being lazy, as you have proven by your response to Sweetarded. Notice how he states he has read a lot, all the inof he then put down was because he did his homework. You would know this jsut as he does, if you did your own research. People aren't going to grow your cannabis for you.

Here's a hint, maybe give things more than a first glance and aybe just maybe you'll understand what is going on. You say you want to learn, you don't learn by glances, you learn by getting absorbed in the material.
also i might add good to learn before and while u grow instead of when problem comes up asking online

if your internet goes down or computer crashes u cant ask anyone
and have no knowledge base of info to use then grow suffers or dies
 
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