IMMA A NOOB. BUt you can help me become the best. Help please im really serious.

mazand1982

mazand1982

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freshlionkush said:
Jah, Im new to the whole growing end of weed, im talking idk wtf is really growing on when i watch the vids, I mean i understand the formulas but as far as setting it up myself gtfo. I am seriously planning to make the transition for dumb-ass to know it all. I just want a little help with the start up.

I can tell you a little about what i want to accomplish. Then with your knowledge tell me what is really tangible and some shit im just dreaming of while im high.

OK I wanted to try the aeroponics approach, I dont know to much about this method at all, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKl3kufMp8 jugding from this video it seem quite clean, fast, easy ,& efficient.

I found this aeroponics setup http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=aeroponics+systems&gs_upl=1201l5677l0l10522l9l9l0l0l0l0l186l1265l1.8l9l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1366&bih=667&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=3889365892785694743&sa=X&ei=o69ITrvNGdKgtgepsZHnBQ&ved=0CGkQ8wIwBg Online (sorry about the copy and paste dont know how to post otherwise.

OK thats about the extent of everything. I just want any set-up, best seed, sunlight timer times (18-6- etc), where i can get good seed from, a few how-tos, and literature you can offer me please. ANd thank anyone for the least bit of time they spend helping get this off the ground.
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haha, you say in one sentence that your a total newbie and in the same breath you wanna try to aeroponic approach?????lol. come on bro, get some fuckin fox farm soil and grow it in there, aero is wayyyy too complicated for you with ZERO experience and PH, PPM, nutes, temps, humidity, come on dude, for real???
 
fabfun

fabfun

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mazand1982 said:
haha, you say in one sentence that your a total newbie and in the same breath you wanna try to aeroponic approach?????lol. come on bro, get some fuckin fox farm soil and grow it in there, aero is wayyyy too complicated for you with ZERO experience and PH, PPM, nutes, temps, humidity, come on dude, for real???
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or at least do a small dwc setup for starters
 
freshlionkush

freshlionkush

Member
mazand1982 said:
haha, you say in one sentence that your a total newbie and in the same breath you wanna try to aeroponic approach?????lol. come on bro, get some fuckin fox farm soil and grow it in there, aero is wayyyy too complicated for you with ZERO experience and PH, PPM, nutes, temps, humidity, come on dude, for real???
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I understand just checking a machine is not that complicated when you know where your supposed to be at. PH, PPM, nutes, temps, humidity all are controls in the equations. If i have a set parameters of where i need to be and what supposed to be going on at what point in time then the method is just a different way. If i have all the answers in the controlled environment then nothing is hard. Its just more difficult than other methods, but i will take heed to your post. thanks!
 
fabfun

fabfun

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freshlionkush said:
That looks like something I would be interested in. I would want at least 8 plants at first though more trial and error. How much would somthing like this cost. I have 5000 dollars to work with.
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ask him how much it cost him to build
they are simple to build but if u dont have skills go to ebay and buy one
start small then after u grow first crop then use your 5000 to go balls deep into growing dwc and especially aero is not all the easy
and besides the grow system u got to buy a tent or build a grow room
how good are u at making things ?
what tools u got
 
freshlionkush

freshlionkush

Member
fabfun said:
ask him how much it cost him to build
they are simple to build but if u dont have skills go to ebay and buy one
start small then after u grow first crop then use your 5000 to go balls deep into growing dwc and especially aero is not all the easy
and besides the grow system u got to buy a tent or build a grow room
how good are u at making things ?
what tools u got
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Im adept with my hand. Im from alabama lol. I work on cars, wield, whatever i need to do to get the job done. Umm i got 3 shield fools of shit i can get from my dad and grandpa.
 
LD25Delta9

LD25Delta9

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Wow, this is a whirlwind of a thread.... I'm glad everybody got their Poise and Tampax in order...

*<Deep Breath In>*

You want honest advise? FUCKING DITCH HYDRO! This is not me being a douche. I'm genuinely trying to impart wisdom upon you. This isn't because I think you'll be inept at checking the system regularly. It's because I've been where you are and I think you'll be inept at reacting to your garden in time when shit hits the fan, because it will. Note: Murpheys Law. You have no experience with growing, even less with growing hydro, and yet, even less with recognizing problems in a marijuana garden, let alone a garden of legal stature. Add that to the complexity of a hydro setup and you can loose your crops in a matter of HOURS, and you are left with a giant $5k paperweight. Even with a DWC or Emily's Garden setup you can lose an entire crop in a day if you don't know what you are doing. I know this from my first 2 hydro grows. When you literally have thousands of hours of info to sift through for an answer to a question that only has a 2 hour window to be solved, your plants will die. When you have to wait for 10 smart-ass answers and 1 correct answer (2 hours later, mind you) for the question you just started an "Emergency, I need Help!" thread, your plants will die. Bottom line.

Grow in dirt first. Learn what can happen to a plant when you fuck it up. In dirt, you'll have time to recognize and diagnose the symptoms, then properly treat the plant and you won't lose your crop in the process. The only things feeling the sting is your wallet and your watch. If you really are trying to go from noob to know-it-all, you'll take all the shit-talk with a grain of salt and listen. I'm no Guru, but I've been around the block, been bullied and sold on bullshit. The most important amount of information I've learned, I've learned on my own. The hard way, in dirt. Once I got good at that, then I went to hydro and still failed twice! Luckily, I met a guy who was a Guru and it's been smooth sailing(ish) ever since. Now, I'm back to Organic dirt because the buds are more dense and taste better.

I won't give you the links or fill your thread with a Copy'N'Paste. That's not a "push" in the right "direction", but rather "direction" being packaged and "dropped" on your computer screen... Instead, I will tell you what information I believe imperative to your success! Consider it a true push in the right direction, seeing as I'm telling you what roadsigns to look for while on your journey.

1. You should be looking for any type of problem that can happen to a garden. From Bugs to mold to nutrient deficiencies to humidity to fucking up a photoperiod. Learn everything that kills plants, how it does it, and how to prevent/stop it.
2. From there, look into the different genus of Cannabis. Learn what makes Indica different from Sativa, and how each one grows differently. Not just their looks, but their actual growing characteristics. They both grow VERY differently and have different desirable characteristics and feeding schedules.
3. Also, figure out if you want to grow organic or not. It does limit your options....until you start thinking outside of the box. Start with that and work your way up.

If you are anything like me, I guarantee you will start searching more and more for answers to more and more questions. The best part about this, is that most of your questions have already been answered and all you have to do is use the proper terminology in the search bar. Hell, you can stumble all over your terminology and it should still give you decent leads to the info you're looking for.

I wish nothing but good luck with your garden and I hope it is everything you wanted and nothing you didn't, regardless of your growing style. Depending on your approach, it can be a joyous occasion or a frustrating headache every time you visit your garden. Here's to your days being full of the former, not the latter! :weed:

Oh, and here's to me being stoned as fuck and going on a tangent.:eyesmoke:
 
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Rhyspect

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ditch the hydro, it may be faster, but it's also faster to fuck up and the quality of the bud goes down because your growing quicker. most commertial growers i know use coco for availability its prity easy to use and quick to grow in, this way all you need to spend cash on is lights fans and nutes.... don't forget your WATER is one of the most important additives don't skimp on the wetness part...

personally i wouln't go organic untill you've got a bit of experience behind you. it's a bit of a mess to sort out. but that's just me.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Rhyspect said:
ditch the hydro, it may be faster, but it's also faster to fuck up and the quality of the bud goes down because your growing quicker. most commertial growers i know use coco for availability its prity easy to use and quick to grow in, this way all you need to spend cash on is lights fans and nutes.... don't forget your WATER is one of the most important additives don't skimp on the wetness part...

personally i wouln't go organic untill you've got a bit of experience behind you. it's a bit of a mess to sort out. but that's just me.
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This is false statment rhyspect lol
The quality dont go down it all comes
Down to your growing skill, skill meaning
The grower/setup/strain
Soil/hydro its so dam close you cant even
Put a % to it. Yah dro is easyer to f up but at
The same time its eayer to fix. Soil yah
Might be a bit more user friendly but if you
Get off track its much harder to fix.

So whatever feels right then roll with that
 
fabfun

fabfun

New Member
irieie said:
this explains it all. next time you post put moron red neck in the title so we know your background. if you are really a tutor at a university this is extremely pathetic that you can not type with proper grammar or use the internet to do research. oh and btw i would never need help from scum like you.go fuck your sister again and then after that maybe go back to that university you supposedly tutor at and get an education. "wtf would Jesus do?" go take your fucking bible and shove it up your ass!
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hey now i am from same place so u are saying all people from alabama r rednecks?
 
fabfun

fabfun

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irieie said:
i guess it is more pronounced in some people. you say You are from there, but do you still live there? its not always where your from its where you are at.
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Yes i do still live here as do all my family and relatives and all of us are college educated some with masters degrees

I take no offense to u calling him a redneck because im not one nor is anyone i associate with but to use a blanket statement to say all people in ala are rednecks shows same ignorance as u claim he does

Its like saying all people in san fran are homosexuals which a intelligent person knows not to be the case
 
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irieie

Well-Known Member
fabfun said:
Yes i do still live here as do all my family and relatives and all of us are college educated some with masters degrees

I take no offense to u calling him a redneck because im not one nor is anyone i associate with but to use a blanket statement to say all people in ala are rednecks shows same ignorance as u claim he does

Its like saying all people in san fran are homosexuals which a intelligent person knows not to be the case
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Alabama is a redneck state. Sorry but it simply is and anybody will tell you this if they want to state the truth. Alabama has a long, proud history of racism and anti-intellectualism.
Alabama flies the Confederate flag, known around the world as a symbol of hatred and racism. In 1874, the political coalition known as the Redeemers took control of the state government from the Republicans, in part by suppressing the African American vote.

After 1890, a coalition of whites passed laws to segregate and disenfranchise black residents, a process completed in provisions of the 1901 constitution. Provisions which disfranchised African Americans also disfranchised poor whites, however. By 1941 more whites than blacks had been disfranchised: 600,000 to 520,000, although the impact was greater on the African-American community, as almost all of its citizens were disfranchised.
Alabama state politics gained nationwide and international attention in the 1950s and 1960s during the American Civil Rights Movement, when majority whites bureaucratically, and at times, violently resisted protests for electoral and social reform. George Wallace, the state's governor, remains a notorious and controversial figure. Only with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964[26] and Voting Rights Act of 1965 did African Americans regain suffrage and other civil rights.

In 2007, the Alabama Legislature passed, and the Governor signed, a resolution expressing "profound regret" over slavery and its lingering impact. In a symbolic ceremony, the bill was signed in the Alabama State Capitol, which housed Congress of the Confederate States of America..In 2007, over 82 percent of schools made adequate yearly progress (AYP) toward student proficiency under the National No Child Left Behind law, using measures determined by the state of Alabama (not the Federal Government). In 2004, only 23 percent of schools met AYP.[60]

However, while Alabama's public education system has improved, it still lags behind in achievement compared to other states. According to U.S. Census data, Alabama's high school graduation rate--75%--is the second lowest in the United States (after Mississippi).[61] The largest educational gains were among people with some college education but without degrees.[62]

All of this is not my opinion, just fact taken directly from Wikipedia.
 
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fabfun

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Adopted November 13, 1895 Design Crimson cross of St. Andrew in a field of white The current flag of the state of Alabama (the second in the state's history) was adopted by Act 383 of the Alabama state legislature on February 16, 1895:
&#8220; The flag of the State of Alabama shall be a crimson cross of St. Andrew on a field of white. The bars forming the cross shall be not less than six inches broad, and must extend diagonally across the flag from side to side." - (Code 1896, §3751; Code 1907, §2058; Code 1923, §2995; Code 1940, T. 55, §5.) &#8221; The cross of St. Andrew referred to in the law is a diagonal cross, known in vexillology as a saltire. Because the bars must be at least six inches wide, small representations of the Alabama flag do not meet the legal definition.
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Obverse of the 1861 flag of Alabama



Reverse of the 1861 flag of Alabama


On January 11, 1861, the Alabama Secession Convention passed a resolution designating an official flag. Designed by several women from Montgomery, final touches were made by Francis Corra of that city.[1] One side of the flag displayed the "Goddess of Liberty" holding an unsheathed sword in her right hand; in her left she held a small blue flag with one gold star. Above the gold star appears the text "Alabama" in all capital letters. In an arch above this figure were the words "Independent Now and Forever".[2] The reverse side of the flag had a cotton plant with a coiled rattlesnake. The text "Noli Me Tangere", ("Touch Me Not" in Latin), was placed below the cotton plant.
This flag was sent to the governor's office on February 10, 1861. Due to damage from severe weather, the flag was never flown again.[clarification needed]
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Flag of the Confederate States of America, adopted 1865.


It is sometimes believed that the crimson saltire of the current flag of Alabama was designed to resemble the blue saltire of the Confederate Battle Flag. Many battle flags were square, and the flag of Alabama is sometimes also depicted as square. The legislation that created the state flag did not specify if the flag was to be square or rectangular, however.[3] The authors of a 1917 article in National Geographic expressed their opinion that because the Alabama flag was based on the Battle Flag, it should be square.[4] In 1987, the office of Alabama Attorney General Don Siegelman issued an opinion in which the Battle Flag derivation is repeated, but concluded that the proper shape is rectangular, as it had been depicted numerous times in official publications and reproductions;[5] despite this, the flag is still depicted as being square, even in official publications of the U.S. federal government.[6]

The Spanish Cross of Burgundy, used in most of Alabama until the 1800s.


However, the saltire design of the Alabama state flag also resembles that of several other flags. It is almost identical to St. Patrick's flag, occasionally used as a symbol of Ireland, and the flag of Florida, which has its heritage in the Spanish Cross of Burgundy flag. Portions of Alabama were originally part of Florida and, subsequently, West Florida. Although Alabama's adoption of its flag design predates that of Florida's by five years, current legislation describes its red saltire as St. Andrew's cross. The crimson Spanish Cross of Burgundy represents the cross on which St. Andrew was crucified.
Another remote, but possible inspiration was the flag carried by Co. "F", 7th Alabama Cavalry. The regiment was the only Alabama regiment in Rucker's Brigade, commanded by Col. Edmund Rucker of Tennessee (later Alabama), who became a prominent Montgomery businessman after the war. The flag of Rucker's brigade utilized a white background with a red saltire charged with 13 blue/green stars. This flag was given to Co. "F", 7th Alabama Cavalry by Rucker so that they might act as his Color Guard, and is held by the Alabama Department of Archives and History as part of its Alabama Civil War Period Flag Collection.[7] But the flag carried by Co. F 7th Alabama was not an Alabama flag, it was the flag made for Rucker's Brigade a month before the 7th joined his brigade; the 7th was color party only after September 24, 1864. A bunting flag that exists, in the white and red configuration with 13 blue stars, is not believed to be Alabama-associated, but rather to be tied to Rucker's Brigade, as well.
[edit] Governor's flag


Standard of the governor of Alabama


The flag of the governor of Alabama is a variant of the state flag. In the top saltire, the flag displays the state coat of arms. The bottom saltire contains the state military crest which consists of a cotton plant with full bursting boll.
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