Michael Sparks
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i'm a bit confused as to what that means...
Is opium safe?
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Corbat420
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opium is kind of like cocaine. when you het high off of it, even once there is a MASSIVE come down. personally i cant take the down from coke, it makes me feel like i A: kill my self or B: do more coke..... so i dont touch the shit.
opium FOR ME is different, the down isnt as bad, its more like the after effects of drinking way to much, only drug out for multiple days.
if you cant take the down dont get high, because you if you start using to fix the down then your A.D.D.I.C.T.E.D.
you CAN overdose from pure THC....BUT it would take so much that you would pass out LONG before you got to that point, so i believe its physically impossible.... and where would you find that much pure THC to begin with haha
Opium will sneak up and club you..... some times to death. its EASY to overdose once you think you know what your doing.....
i just want to say, because i dont know how clear i have made this. EVERYONE is effected differently by different drugs. i am working off of my own personal experience with this subject. everyone else's experiences are just as legitimate, especially when dealing with a drug as complex as opium.....
jdmcwestevo
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pure opium is better than heroin but still bad stuff lol
skiweeds
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not sure if you know but its not the opium poppy itself you smoke, its the dried sap inside. i've smoked it many times years ago. i like putting it on a bowl of weed. by itself it didnt seem too strong. its hardly dangerous. you would have to smoke a LOT to overdose or become opiate dependent. its not nearly as strong as morpine or heroin. i thought it was great myself. adds a little extra kick to the weed buzz. imo opium by itself didnt seem worth it, but it tasted good. research it on wikipedia, and remember, everything you read on the internet is true.
I have been reading this thread with interest. I have smoked opium before and I have been to Opium dens in Hong Kong a long time ago. I was lucky and put it down right away. Many Vietnam vets got hooked on opium. It is extremely addictive. Many of my buddies did not stop and became addicted. They moved on to Red Rock heroin. I prefer being high instead of feeling down. Pot, mushrooms and peyote yeah!
well, you should know that opium and cannabis are not similar at all...
first of all weed is just a plant. you pick the buds and dry them; nothing more.
with opiates it's a bit more complicated. You extract the resin from an unripe bulb (you can do this by stabbing it with a needle and wait for it to ooze out), then dry the resin so it turns into a powdery paper-like substance, then you mix it with various solutions depending on what you want, for example, crack is mixed with baking soda and a few drops of hydrochloric acid. Heroin is mixed with bleach and other substances. THEN you have to get rid of some of the substance you put in; like if crack you want to keep the chlorine but get rid of the Hydrogen, so you add a bonding agent, anything that will bind with hydrogen will work so there's a lot of ways to do this....
for my final answer: NO, it is not safe to do opiates. you can die from taking too much opiate but you CANNOT die from taking too much marijuana.
first of all weed is just a plant. you pick the buds and dry them; nothing more.
with opiates it's a bit more complicated. You extract the resin from an unripe bulb (you can do this by stabbing it with a needle and wait for it to ooze out), then dry the resin so it turns into a powdery paper-like substance, then you mix it with various solutions depending on what you want, for example, crack is mixed with baking soda and a few drops of hydrochloric acid. Heroin is mixed with bleach and other substances. THEN you have to get rid of some of the substance you put in; like if crack you want to keep the chlorine but get rid of the Hydrogen, so you add a bonding agent, anything that will bind with hydrogen will work so there's a lot of ways to do this....
for my final answer: NO, it is not safe to do opiates. you can die from taking too much opiate but you CANNOT die from taking too much marijuana.
Corbat420
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you obviously dont know shit.... like how to read....
seeing as i allready explained opium and you couldn't even read that........and no, you cant stab it with a needle, if you break the center pocket it kills the plant.
as i explained earlier. Yes you can die from THC. it takes around 3000 MG/KG.
Raw puddy is not clean opium. it would take you MASSIVE ammounts, just like with weed, to actualy OD. the ONLY differance, is the fact that its slightly addictive.....
and you have obviously never tried opium puddy, or you would know its not that addictive....
skiweeds
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i agree. i've never done a shit load at once but the stuff is pretty weak. i've never once felt withdrawls from all the times i've done it. not very addictive at all unless maybe you smoke a shit ton everyday. i thought even popping vicodin was a lot stronger. now heroin on the other hand is very addictive. never done it myself but i can tell from ppl that have. cocaine, even though completely different, is extremely addictive. i've felt withdrawls after only doing it a few times.
Sinsay
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it that your pic ? Smart & sexy Im in love but on to something else 
Agreed ive grown poppys after a line forms on the pod you cut the pod no more then 1 mm yellow stuff bleeds out carefully you remove the yellow stuff dry on glass & add to a pipe
& you can hear anything here someone making it up as they go along No shortage of them here best thing about here is reading them & having a good laugh Person to person i would agree with him yes you push the needle till you feel the seeds right on brother
you got it
Drugs aint for everybody Many wake up with their brain moving slower then it should They end up overdosing & making us all look bad I can see no reason to help them to the overdose I also believe their the ones that get buzzed 3 times tell people they was a junky & find god Oh man people its hard to believe i am one from time 2 time
Agreed ive grown poppys after a line forms on the pod you cut the pod no more then 1 mm yellow stuff bleeds out carefully you remove the yellow stuff dry on glass & add to a pipe
& you can hear anything here someone making it up as they go along No shortage of them here best thing about here is reading them & having a good laugh Person to person i would agree with him yes you push the needle till you feel the seeds right on brother
you got it Drugs aint for everybody Many wake up with their brain moving slower then it should They end up overdosing & making us all look bad I can see no reason to help them to the overdose I also believe their the ones that get buzzed 3 times tell people they was a junky & find god Oh man people its hard to believe i am one from time 2 time
forgetfulpenguin
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Raw opium is neither powdery nor paper-like.
I'll take it you got that gem from the book "Chemistry for the Recently Lobotomized."
I don't want to believe any person is so ignorant that they think raw opium is the starting point for cocaine base. It is obvious you would not add an acid like HCL to get cocaine base. Salt to base is an extremely basic concept in chemistry.
It is quite obvious that nothing in bleach is going to acetylate morphine.
That rambling collection of words and random punctuation clearly shows you don't even have a basic understanding of chemistry. I assume that was a painful attempt to explain that purifying the finial product is a good idea.
For the curious a simple google search refutes these insane claims.
Crack: http://science.howstuffworks.com/crack2.htm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_freebase_cocaine_and_crack_cocaine
Heroin: http://opioids.com/jh/index.html
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html