pics of my discolored leaves, any advice?

Hi, as usual sorry for the crappy pictures. Is anybody able to ID the cause of this? It's not on every plant and never on all the leaves, but 5 of them have this to a degree, so I was wondering what was up. They've been in a potting soil with time release nutes/perlite mix for over a week now, it's not nute burn is it? Over watering? Thanks y'all.
 

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DreFarm

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its not over watering cuz if it was the leaves would be wilting and the whole leaf will turn yellow. its definately a nute problem. what soil? indoor/outdoor? any nutes at all?
 

Keefers26

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They've been in a potting soil with time release nutes/perlite mix for over a week now, it's not nute burn is it? Over watering? Thanks y'all.
Probably too much nutes, which is probably causing ph issues as well.

Those plants are small, I would barely be feeding them, if anything at all.
 

Auzzie07

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You may have accidentally dropped some nutrient solution on the leaves when watering, perhaps?

This is what it looks like to me...
 
I don't add any nutes. There is time release fertilizer in the soil I'm using. It is generic organic potting mix. What should I do? Less water? Will that fix it?
 
Oh, I'm also watering straight from the tap. No PH testing, no standing the water, just straight from tap to soil without delay. Am I good to go in this specific case?
 

Hoenhiem

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it does look like a nute burn in the third pic but the 1st looks like a unbalanced ph. you should really look into a ph tester. any abundance or deficiency will be hard to determine because of your soil, thats why time released nutes in soil is not ideal for cannabis. if it gets worse i would transplant, eather way get a ph tester. goodluck
 
The nute burn should fix itself as the plants grow bigger, right? As fo the PH problems, is it high or low, judging from the color of the leaf damage? I can't test the PH of my water everyday, I don't have time or money for that fussing stuff. This is something I can't fuck up, I'm looking to get quarter pounds out of my grow so I need optimum conditions that don't come with ANY price tag (already spent close to $800 getting set up - it was supposed to only cost $150 but things got out of control and I had to spend big on light fixtures, my whole savings). I have ZERO spare money. Any PH tester I buy means at least two days of no food for me, from where I'm coming from financially.
 
Basically I have a lot of baking soda and vinegar already because those are two of my staples in cooking, so can't I just add the baking soda as a PH down, the vinegar as a PH up? But which should I be adding? Is it high PH or low PH judging from the damage?
 

Hoenhiem

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that would be impossible to tell by looks. i can tell you that most tap water has a high ph but it varies from region to region. you actually have it backwards, its vinegar down/ soda up. let me tell you if you spent that much for the settup than an extra $15-20 bucks would be a better investment, especially if this is something you dont want to fuck up. i got mine off ebay cost me less than 20 try to catch a no shipping and close to the end of an auction with very little bids. sorry to say but to get great yields and a problem free grow its gonna cost, i learned that already. and yes most times with time released nutes any deficiency the plant will grow out of but the problem is when you post "pics of discolored leaves any advice" its impossible to give you accurate advice as you dont know exactly whats in your plant at the time. my advice try to get a used or cheap ph tester. you could even get a pool or aquarium tester with the drops and strips its cheap as shit from walmart or anywhere. wait the nutes out cannabis is a resilient plant just baby it show it love and it should come around. goodluck
 

DreFarm

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is this like some special type of soil that automatically releases the nutes? or is it just a good soil from a hydro store. cuz when your girl is that small you should be using very little to no nutes at all. i have a lavender clone that is about that same size and she is in good soil(outdoors by the way) and i give her Terra Vega 2-1-3 every time i water and shes doin great. i know your going to hate to hear this but if it gets much worse your going to have to transplant her into different soil. happy growing buddy
 
Yeah sorry, pics are from a HD video cam, that can't focus on small/close objects and has no flash despite costing $400. Fucking Sony. I heard high PH causes plants to turn mostly into males so that's not good. I've had terrible experiences with cheap PH meters but I suppose I'll have to try one. Thanks for advice.
 

Cooter@666

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I don't add any nutes. There is time release fertilizer in the soil I'm using. It is generic organic potting mix. What should I do? Less water? Will that fix it?
if its nute burn it'll only get worse.....it’s time released soil so every time you water the pant you'll be feeding it…if you flush the soil you’ll still be feeding the plant…consider transplanting into soil that doesn’t contain any time released fertilizers.
 
if its nute burn it'll only get worse.....it’s time released soil so every time you water the pant you'll be feeding it…if you flush the soil you’ll still be feeding the plant…consider transplanting into soil that doesn’t contain any time released fertilizers.
Are you sure the nute burn won't get better as the plants grow bigger and start to need the nutes? I can't really transplant easily, the plants are pretty settled and getting that soil out of the roots will be risky. Besides, it's soil designed to grow tomatoes and the like so it should be suitable, I get the impression you can't be sure it's nute burn from blurry photos with unnatural colors anyway, so I think I'll try and test my PH and if that doesn't show the problem I'll probably have to hope the plants get better at handeling the nutes. From what I understand a high PH means the plants can't absorb nutes anyway, right? So would a high PH help with nute burn?
 

DreFarm

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doubtful id transplant. even though it might stress her out a little bit it will be way better in the long run
 
Transplanting seems pointless because the roots will be enclosing a large portion of the soil so I can't really get rid of the nute-rich soil without causing a lot of damage. I've pretty much decided to keep doing what I'm doing and hope for the best, except I will start PH testing my soil. I figure that I'm growing a weed that can adapt to many different scenarios so I should get something out of the grow. If they die or yield is extra bad I'll just grow some more using soil with no nutes added (actually, I'll definitely do that whatever happens). I've got a lot of seeds and this is all learning. I think the equivalent US version of the soil I'm using would be the generic Miracle Grow brand. I've seen some great grows on here using that soil and CFLs so I'm thinking my plants can recover. They are growing fast and the large majority of the leaves and stems are a nice green color and very perky so it doesn't look like a disaster.

Another thing is that it's freezing weather where I'm at and my fan has been badly posistioned over the last week making the temps stay at 84F with the lights on and probably dropping about 20 or 30 degrees at least when the lights go off. Could that be causing stains on the leaves? I've just got my fan positioned better and a heater for when the lights go off so I'm going to see if that makes a difference.

Thanks for the help, no offense that I'm way to scared to do a transplant. I'll let people know if the plants start looking better, in case others are in a similar pickle.
 

Cooter@666

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Are you sure the nute burn won't get better as the plants grow bigger and start to need the nutes? I can't really transplant easily, the plants are pretty settled and getting that soil out of the roots will be risky. Besides, it's soil designed to grow tomatoes and the like so it should be suitable, I get the impression you can't be sure it's nute burn from blurry photos with unnatural colors anyway, so I think I'll try and test my PH and if that doesn't show the problem I'll probably have to hope the plants get better at handeling the nutes. From what I understand a high PH means the plants can't absorb nutes anyway, right? So would a high PH help with nute burn?
I seriously doubt it’s a PH issue; this is a classic reason why you shouldn’t use pre bagged soils with time released fertilizers, some stains can take but it appears your strain is sensitive to it …looks like your plants they’re seedling? In my experience starting seedling in a hot soil never results in anything positive. This very well might me overwatering too….please explain your watering method, This may also be a combination of overwatering and the time released soil….if $$$ is an issue go to home depot and get a bag of Kellogg’s patio plus, it’s an all organic product, it contains all kinds of amendments and it’ll correct the issues that your currently experiencing. Also you mentioned that your soil is formulated for tomatoes, I’m sure that’s great for tomatoes, but your not growing tomatoes.
 
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