IOWA: Student Dies After Gay Bashing

[NoDrama]

hate crimes apply equally to everyone.

if a pack of gays beat a hetero to death while taunting them with "breeder" and the like, they would be up for hate crime just the same.

and we already try people based upon the contents of their mind at the time of the crime, it is called 'intent' and 'motive'. otherwise people could not plead insanity.

you're welcome.

If the hetero was black, latino or in a wheelchair you can bet a hate crime will be henceforth coming as a charge. If he was white, well you can be assured that no hate crime was committed. Find me evidence of a white hetero non disabled man being beaten and hate crime being convicted against his assailants. I doubt you can find one.

BTW the Hate crimes Prevention Act does not prevent hate crimes at all.

Evidence that what you say is false...

http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2011/04/maryland-mcdonalds-black-girls-beat.html ........................watch the video, hear the slurs. No hate crime!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_Up_a_White_Kid_Day ..... LOL Beat up a white kid day...no hate crimes!!!
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33609............................... Hate Crime? Nope.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59129

Reginald Denny? You remember him? You might have been too young ( 12?) when this happened in 1992, I was in Irvine California, not too terribly far away, but completely removed from all the violence. Ever see anyone charged with a hate crime? about 220 million people probably saw reggy get beaten by multiple Blacks. They arrested all 4 of the men who did it, of course they were all on TV. No hate crime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Denny_incident ............................. In fact Jesse Jackson said charging them with a hate crime would be racism against the black perps.

So you see? If you charge a black person with a hate crime against a white person you are a racist.

I could go all day, when I looked for people charged with hate crimes against whites, for only being white, there were none to be found.

http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/hatecrimes.html

HAHA even when the Black perpetrator carries a note on him saying he hates whites and then shoots 18 white people, he still isn't charged with a hate crime.
http://crime.about.com/od/murder/p/frguson.htm

 

[NoDrama]

FDD posts crimes, but none of them hate crimes, I don't get it. The law does not protect your love for a sports team. Being beaten because you are a dodgers fan isn't a hate crime.

 

[londonfog]

If the hetero was black, latino or in a wheelchair you can bet a hate crime will be henceforth coming as a charge. If he was white, well you can be assured that no hate crime was committed. Find me evidence of a white hetero non disabled man being beaten and hate crime being convicted against his assailants. I doubt you can find one.

I will let you do your own research, but I think you would be wrong to say that one can't be found .... http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/victims.html

 

[NoDrama]

I will let you do your own research, but I think you would be wrong to say that one can't be found .... http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/victims.html

So you weren't able to find one either eh? Believe me I looked, I assume you did also, but came up with bupkis?

 

[londonfog]

So you weren't able to find one either eh? Believe me I looked, I assume you did also, but came up with bupkis?

what part of "you would be wrong" did you not understand..??? do your own research...There are cases when the victim has been white a male..Shane McClellan is one

 

[sync0s]

yeah that cut and paste wasn't biased in any way... no way.. nuh uh. Perceived rights? Lifestyle choices? By the way, the Kuwaiti dress code for gays is completely fabricated bullshit. Unprecedented homosexuality? I hate to break it to ya'll but we've always been there. Now that freedom is the rallying cry around the world, LGBT's want a piece of that pie. Living in fear of your life every single day is not how a human being should have to exist. Its time for this shit to stop. Arrested for formalizing love? Really? Because of an ideology? A thought process? Are heterosexuals so afraid that we might have the same feelings you do or is it fear that we may handle it better?

No one has yet to describe to me how two men or two women getting married threatens a hetero family in any way? And as to the final claim. Africa has more problems with heterosexuals transmitting diseases. AIDS is a straight crisis in Africa. Men are even raping women in the belief that it will cure them. Thus infecting more and more of the population. The LGBT community is the only one where AIDS and HIV are on the decline because of a very active and vigorous safe sex campaign.

I'm so tired of this propagandist bullshit.

I did that to be 100% purely educational. If I would have read the last damn paragraph I would have left it out but I thought copying and pasting the hole thing was only right to the author.

 

[fdd2blk]

FDD posts crimes, but none of them hate crimes, I don't get it. The law does not protect your love for a sports team. Being beaten because you are a dodgers fan isn't a hate crime.

apparently there are people out there who HATE the other team. you will get beat within inches of your life for "being" a fan of said teams.

 

[ginjawarrior]

If the hetero was black, latino or in a wheelchair you can bet a hate crime will be henceforth coming as a charge. If he was white, well you can be assured that no hate crime was committed. Find me evidence of a white hetero non disabled man being beaten and hate crime being convicted against his assailants. I doubt you can find one.

Table 1

Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders
by Bias Motivation, 2009

• Data Declaration
• Download Excel

Bias motivation Incidents Offenses Victims1 Known offenders2
Total 6,604 7,789 8,336 6,225
Single-Bias Incidents 6,598 7,775 8,322 6,219
Race: 3,199 3,816 4,057 3,241
Anti-White 545 652 668 753
Anti-Black 2,284 2,724 2,902 2,160
Anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native 65 84 87 88
Anti-Asian/Pacific Islander 126 147 149 108
Anti-Multiple Races, Group 179 209 251 132
Religion: 1,303 1,376 1,575 586
Anti-Jewish 931 964 1,132 353
Anti-Catholic 51 55 59 25
Anti-Protestant 38 40 42 17
Anti-Islamic 107 128 132 95
Anti-Other Religion 109 119 131 51
Anti-Multiple Religions, Group 57 60 68 38
Anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc. 10 10 11 7
Sexual Orientation: 1,223 1,436 1,482 1,394
Anti-Male Homosexual 682 798 817 817
Anti-Female Homosexual 185 216 227 197
Anti-Homosexual 312 376 391 349
Anti-Heterosexual 21 21 21 14
Anti-Bisexual 23 25 26 17
Ethnicity/National Origin: 777 1,050 1,109 934
Anti-Hispanic 483 654 692 649
Anti-Other Ethnicity/National Origin 294 396 417 285
Disability: 96 97 99 64
Anti-Physical 25 25 25 25
Anti-Mental 71 72 74 39
Multiple-Bias Incidents3 6 14 14 6

• 1 The term victim may refer to a person, business, institution, or society as a whole.
• 2 The term known offender does not imply that the identity of the suspect is known, but only that an attribute of the suspect has been identified, which distinguishes him/her from an unknown offender.
• 3 In a multiple-bias incident, two conditions must be met: (a) more than one offense type must occur in the incident and (b) at least two offense types must be motivated by different biases.

 

[NoDrama]

.Shane McClellan is one

Nope, you are wrong, no hate crime charges at all in that case.

The May 25th assault results in first degree robbery and malicious harassment charges

 

[NoDrama]

Table 1

Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders
by Bias Motivation, 2009

• Data Declaration
• Download Excel

Bias motivation Incidents Offenses Victims1 Known offenders2
Total 6,604 7,789 8,336 6,225
Single-Bias Incidents 6,598 7,775 8,322 6,219
Race: 3,199 3,816 4,057 3,241
Anti-White 545 652 668 753
Anti-Black 2,284 2,724 2,902 2,160
Anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native 65 84 87 88
Anti-Asian/Pacific Islander 126 147 149 108
Anti-Multiple Races, Group 179 209 251 132
Religion: 1,303 1,376 1,575 586
Anti-Jewish 931 964 1,132 353
Anti-Catholic 51 55 59 25
Anti-Protestant 38 40 42 17
Anti-Islamic 107 128 132 95
Anti-Other Religion 109 119 131 51
Anti-Multiple Religions, Group 57 60 68 38
Anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc. 10 10 11 7
Sexual Orientation: 1,223 1,436 1,482 1,394
Anti-Male Homosexual 682 798 817 817
Anti-Female Homosexual 185 216 227 197
Anti-Homosexual 312 376 391 349
Anti-Heterosexual 21 21 21 14
Anti-Bisexual 23 25 26 17
Ethnicity/National Origin: 777 1,050 1,109 934
Anti-Hispanic 483 654 692 649
Anti-Other Ethnicity/National Origin 294 396 417 285
Disability: 96 97 99 64
Anti-Physical 25 25 25 25
Anti-Mental 71 72 74 39
Multiple-Bias Incidents3 6 14 14 6

• 1 The term victim may refer to a person, business, institution, or society as a whole.
• 2 The term known offender does not imply that the identity of the suspect is known, but only that an attribute of the suspect has been identified, which distinguishes him/her from an unknown offender.
• 3 In a multiple-bias incident, two conditions must be met: (a) more than one offense type must occur in the incident and (b) at least two offense types must be motivated by different biases.

So, you weren't able to find anything either, still waiting for someone to show me a specific case where a white person was attacked and the assailant was charged with a hate crime, still waiting......

 

[NoDrama]

apparently there are people out there who HATE the other team. you will get beat within inches of your life for "being" a fan of said teams.

Absolutely, but its not considered a "hate" crime according to the LAW.

 

[fdd2blk]

Absolutely, but its not considered a "hate" crime according to the LAW.

are you a lawyer, or do you just play one on the internet? lol

 

[ginjawarrior]

So, you weren't able to find anything either, still waiting for someone to show me a specific case where a white person was attacked and the assailant was charged with a hate crime, still waiting......

meh they are the official figures for hate crimes 17.1% of them are attributed to "anti white"

you dont like the figures you show me how they're wrong

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/incidents.html

Racial bias

In 2009, law enforcement agencies reported that 3,816 single-bias hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Of these offenses:

• 71.4 percent were motivated by anti-black bias.
• 17.1 percent resulted from anti-white bias.
• 5.5 percent occurred because of biases against groups of individuals consisting of more than one race (anti-multiple races, group).
• 3.9 percent resulted from anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias.
• 2.2 percent were motivated by anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias. (Based on Table 1.)

 

[londonfog]

Nope, you are wrong, no hate crime charges at all in that case.


The May 25th assault results in first degree robbery and malicious harassment charges

lol...wow now we see that you are not a lawyer nor do you play one on the internet...MALICIOUS HARASSMENT is just that a hate crime..check the laws in Washington buddy..might help in you not looking so foolish...here read .....>>>>
http://www.co.snohomish.wa.us/Documents/Departments/Prosecuting_Attorney/Statute.pdf

 

[ginjawarrior]

try comparing hate crime percentage to population base

Race Number Percentage White alone
(of which 26.7 million are White Hispanic and Latino Americans, see table below.
Excluding these, this category comprises 63.7% or 196.8 million) 223,553,265 72.4%
Black or African American alone 38,929,319 12.6%
Some other race alone(Mestizo, Mulatto...) 19,107,368 6.2%
Asian alone 14,674,252 4.8%
Two or more races 9,009,073 2.9%
American Indian or Alaska Native alone 2,932,248 0.9%
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander alone 540,013 0.2%
Total 308,745,538 100.0%

 

[NoDrama]

lol...wow now we see that you are not a lawyer nor do you play one on the internet...MALICIOUS HARASSMENT is just that a hate crime..check the laws in Washington buddy..might help in you not looking so foolish...here read .....>>>>
http://www.co.snohomish.wa.us/Documents/Departments/Prosecuting_Attorney/Statute.pdf

Apparently you do not understand that the hate crime law is a FEDERAL LAW!!! When you actually show me a case where the federal government prosecuted the assailant of a white person with a hate crime and you can be the winner, otherwise take all your STATE cases and pound sand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard_and_James_Byrd,_Jr._Hate_Crimes_Prevention_Act

still waiting for all this proof that supposedly exists out there.

 

[fdd2blk]

Apparently you do not understand that the hate crime law is a FEDERAL LAW!!! When you actually show me a case where the federal government prosecuted the assailant of a white person with a hate crime and you can be the winner, otherwise take all your STATE cases and pound sand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard_and_James_Byrd,_Jr._Hate_Crimes_Prevention_Act

still waiting for all this proof that supposedly exists out there.

why would a white person ever be convicted of a hate crime?

everyone knows white is right.

 

[londonfog]

Apparently you do not understand that the hate crime law is a FEDERAL LAW!!! When you actually show me a case where the federal government prosecuted the assailant of a white person with a hate crime and you can be the winner, otherwise take all your STATE cases and pound sand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard_and_James_Byrd,_Jr._Hate_Crimes_Prevention_Act

still waiting for all this proof that supposedly exists out there.

WTF...dude you can't be that stupid....Hate crime laws are both state and federal... 45 states have hate crime laws..Washington being one of them..You asked to show a prosecuted hate crime against a white male victim..done...too bad you not strong enough of a man to admit when wrong and move forward...most be very hard for you to learn things in life..

 

[londonfog]

I see you enjoy Wikipedia ..here go read >>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime_laws_in_the_United_States#State_laws

 

[fdd2blk]

WTF...dude you can't be that stupid....Hate crime laws are both state and federal... 45 states have hate crime laws..Washington being one of them..You asked to show a prosecuted hate crime against a white male victim..done...too bad you not strong enough of a man to admit when wrong and move forward...most be very hard for you to learn things in life..

nobody is ever wrong on the internet.