Have any idea whats wrong with these??

ganjaluva2009

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renegade, iampolluted and cranker, i thanks all you guys for the input....

like i said, they were in my bubble cloner then transplanted to roots organic....

the only foliar that they got was from me spraying them with ff dont bug me, bug spray....ive checked and checked again for mites and i dont see a single one...ive had mites before, so iknow what to look for and im not seeing it...

i havent tested my runoff, but will do so when i water them next...they are still wet from the flush i did...

do you guys have any recommendations on what to do next??
i guess just let them dry out and see how they react to a feeding of light nutes??

and about the too many lumens...i moved them from under my mh and put under my t5
 

iampolluted

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they are fine under the mh. if you're really concerned about it being too bright, move the light up. the inverse square law will provide a substantial lumen drop by raising the light a few inches.what is the ph when you feed? flushing is usually a last resort, sometimes just a heavy watering can clear things up. if it were me i'd feed them today. not a lot, but i'd feed em. i'd go 3/4 strength to a gallon, but only give them about 16oz. ea. of that gallon of nute solution. it's easier to fix nute burn from pushing them than it is to catch em back up imo.
 

ganjaluva2009

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they are fine under the mh. if you're really concerned about it being too bright, move the light up. the inverse square law will provide a substantial lumen drop by raising the light a few inches.what is the ph when you feed? flushing is usually a last resort, sometimes just a heavy watering can clear things up. if it were me i'd feed them today. not a lot, but i'd feed em. i'd go 3/4 strength to a gallon, but only give them about 16oz. ea. of that gallon of nute solution. it's easier to fix nute burn from pushing them than it is to catch em back up imo.
ok cool....at last feeding my ph was 7.1...so i dont think that was the culprit...my temps are right at 78-80 and rh is 40-45%
i just always read that when in doubt flush, so thats why i took that route...
they are still pretty soaked, so should i wait another day or so to give them a feeding?? or do it tonight??
 

iampolluted

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if you feed em a little tonight you'll slow whatever it is that's effecting them. on your next feedings keep the ph under 7.0. do you aerate your water or are you using tap or r/o water? with the flushing you are starting out now with a fairly leached soil, so adding nutes back in won't hurt. you won't be doing them any harm by feeding them tonight. on the next feeding make sure they've dried a bit.
 

ganjaluva2009

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if you feed em a little tonight you'll slow whatever it is that's effecting them. on your next feedings keep the ph under 7.0. do you aerate your water or are you using tap or r/o water? with the flushing you are starting out now with a fairly leached soil, so adding nutes back in won't hurt. you won't be doing them any harm by feeding them tonight. on the next feeding make sure they've dried a bit.
sweet....ill feed them in a few hours....and will do on my ph...so under 7??by how far?/between 6.7-7?? i use tap water with a ppm of between 38-40 and a ph of right around 7 always....so its pretty good water...and i totally understand the not hurting them because everything is flushed out....ill feed in a few hours and see what happens in the next few days...thanks for all the help iam....ganja
 

maps84

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Leaves structure looks well developed except for K and Ca locks but I can't get my self to completely blame nutes as it looks like a rare combination of problems. I can only assume a few things from what've told us in spite of I don't think your growing conditions translate to the current state of your plants...

IMO your solution PH is high, although Cannabis can grow at 7, it's best if kept between 6.2 and 6.8 (slightly acidic, that you can read in every book). Also MG is loaded and adding Blood Meal could've worsen it all making the soil toxic, Too much N and K locks out Calcium, but again that can't be the only thing going on.

In addition it wouldn't be a bad idea to look for pests. Thrips cause similar damage some of your leaves are showing, so it wont hurt to get your pocket microscope and check those white spots.

You said you transplanted 3 days ago, where the plants completely healthy when you did it?
 

cowboylogic

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Leaves structure looks well developed except for K and Ca locks but I can't get my self to completely blame nutes as it looks like a rare combination of problems. I can only assume a few things from what've told us in spite of I don't think your growing conditions translate to the current state of your plants...

IMO your solution PH is high, although Cannabis can grow at 7, it's best if kept between 6.2 and 6.8 (slightly acidic, that you can read in every book). Also MG is loaded and adding Blood Meal could've worsen it all making the soil toxic, Too much N and K locks out Calcium, but again that can't be the only thing going on.

In addition it wouldn't be a bad idea to look for pests. Thrips cause similar damage some of your leaves are showing, so it wont hurt to get your pocket microscope and check those white spots.

You said you transplanted 3 days ago, where the plants completely healthy when you did it?

I am guessing the plants(if they made it)have been long harvested.........
 

Thedillestpickle

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Hey andy Id say you grew your plants too well.. you should have stunted them with nute lockout or something and youd have a smaller plant.


Damn I kinda wanna know how those plants turned out. kinda funny to give advice on seedlings 4 months after the fact lol
 

andy88

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if thats the case im well happy man :) il keep u posted on them from now on. i also have a northenlight auto thats doing just fine. so u dont think thers enything wrong with them. sweet
 
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