Need Advice, Room mates growing

[LearningToHigh]

Hi all. A little background first.

I am in college in California, living with 3 people. They all have their cards, one of which is a "cultivator". However, I do not have my card.


They are going to grow 6-10 plants total in our house.


I am against this 100%. Reasons are not necessary to go into. But I fear for my safety.

So. What am I looking at here? I wont be helping manage the plants (feed, take care of lights ect..). I'll probably have to pay my share in the increase in electricity bill. And thats the only connection Ill have to this.

My fear is that through having people over to drink, word of mouth, whatever, It will come down to the worst scenario of cops coming in and seeing the plants since somehow they found out. Accidently, or intentionally doesnt matter, I have to assume it WILL happen.

If cops get involved, am I liable? I had a friend tell me that since they will have their legal documents posted on the grow tent, that I wont be a part of it. BUT, I should still get a med card, and just keep it low-key in-case Id have to go to court or something.

Point me in the right direction here. What should I do? I want to live here safely (peace of mind).

Thanks.

 

[redivider]

you'll go to jail for life.

if it's a small grow then you're fine. make sure they keep it in a LOCKED room, away from the common areas.

that'll add a layer of safety. and don't pay shit for extra electricity. get an urban garden magazine at the hydro shop, it has electricity calculation tables. figure out how much the electricity for the light will cost based on it's wattage/hours, call this X.

(total light bill - X)/3= your share. make them sign a contract that says you'll only pay for your share of the light.

but if your gonna be smoking from that weed then don't be such a pansy, get yourself a card, pay for the electricity, pay part of the tent costs, pay part of the hydro/soil costs, basically share the costs and you'll share the benefits.

 

[LearningToHigh]

"but if your gonna be smoking from that weed then don't be such a pansy, get yourself a card, pay for the electricity, pay part of the tent costs, pay part of the hydro/soil costs, basically share the costs and you'll share the benefits. "


Absolutely. Except my main concern is I just dont want to get into trouble

 

[Prefontaine]

Hi all. A little background first.

I am in college in California, living with 3 people. They all have their cards, one of which is a "cultivator". However, I do not have my card.


They are going to grow 6-10 plants total in our house.


I am against this 100%. Reasons are not necessary to go into. But I fear for my safety.

So. What am I looking at here? I wont be helping manage the plants (feed, take care of lights ect..). I'll probably have to pay my share in the increase in electricity bill. And thats the only connection Ill have to this.

My fear is that through having people over to drink, word of mouth, whatever, It will come down to the worst scenario of cops coming in and seeing the plants since somehow they found out. Accidently, or intentionally doesnt matter, I have to assume it WILL happen.

If cops get involved, am I liable? I had a friend tell me that since they will have their legal documents posted on the grow tent, that I wont be a part of it. BUT, I should still get a med card, and just keep it low-key in-case Id have to go to court or something.

Point me in the right direction here. What should I do? I want to live here safely (peace of mind).

Thanks.

if you all have cards, and your within your legal limits and not dealing or commiting some crime, your only real danger would be somone coming over and riping you guys off cause they know you have plants, or they might do that anyway cause they saw the xbox when they were over partying, more importantly if you are not comfortable wih it, why would you be in california and not have your card? WTF? you guys even have dispensaries where you can still go buy weed and clones without having to find some shady caregiver/dealer/grower to hook you up.

 

[BadDog40]

if you all have cards, and your within your legal limits and not dealing or commiting some crime, your only real danger would be somone coming over and riping you guys off cause they know you have plants, or they might do that anyway cause they saw the xbox when they were over partying, more importantly if you are not comfortable wih it, why would you be in california and not have your card? WTF? you guys even have dispensaries where you can still go buy weed and clones without having to find some shady caregiver/dealer/grower to hook you up.

Caregivers and growers are shady and dispensaries are not. You're on this site why?

 

[LearningToHigh]

I still would rather not get my card.

I mean its their thing. There doing it in their room.

Or do I really have to?

 

[Grumpy']

Worst case scenario, a bust happens, everyone cept you has a card, and you end up getting arrested as you don't have a card. Not sure if it a possibility, as I dont live in Cali.

 

[Phillip J Fry]

i also dont know cuz i dont live in cali. But if i was you i would research the law myself. Do you not smoke pot? If not why don't you move out? If you do, go get your card duh.

 

[ghantron]

worst case scenario, some hood rolls in the spot, puts a hole in ur head. then cops.
Get them to put it in a room with a lock that only they have the key to. Make sure they are within their legal limits, and then play ignorant.

 

[cooknsmoke]

you would be fine. don't listen to most of the ignorant people on here beside redriver. you live in cali so base on state law if your roomate is in compliant then you are ok. you don't need a card because you are not involve in the operation correct? second, the new 2011 state law says that it is a mismeanor charge for having 1oz or less without a card, so there is only a fine penality of $100 i believe; given that you are not doing anything else. if your roomate is doing something big and you feel uncomfortable, then i suggest you moving out because state juristriction is one and fed juristriction is another. base on your story it is small so don't worry and blaze one up

 

[themanwiththeplan]

My advice/opinion is this:

You don't need a card.

Why?
Not your grow. others that you live with have cards & its their grow...so naturally you'd be cleared unless they throw you under the bus. if you don't trust these people then i would move out. however if they are honest people they'll stand up and say, "hey he just lives here, its our grow not his".

If they are posting their rec's on the grow tent then the cops wouldn't blame you even if they are in the wrong.

If you're gonna benefit from smoking it then its only fair to pay a portion of the electricity bill. Look at it as you way of paying for your share. its a hell of a lot cheaper than going to the clubs or buying from anyone you can think of.

Is this a college dorm on campus? or is this just three guys renting something out NEAR a college?

if its on campus i'd advise against it as you really don't have the authority to grow (card or not) as a college is a privately owned facility. You'd have to get school permission to grow in their dorms & unless you have something seriously wrong with one of you don't count on them approving it for "headaches" or "anxiety" not gonna happen. if one of you has MS, cancer, aids, etc. then they MIGHT be open to it if it was REALLY that serious.


I personally wouldn't like this situation because no one is as cautious as i am (or thats how i feel). In your situation i'd feel nervous because i'd be thinking they wont know how to stfu & keep it quiet. ive been growing for yrs and i keep it so silent that NO ONE would suspect me of being a grower. thats how they have to treat it. No parties if you're growing. whether its hidden or stealth or whatever. doesn't matter to me.

Ive NEVER brought ANYONE back to my grow spot (besides my grow partner) in my 3+years of growing unless i didnt have a grow going on at the time/anything incriminating on the property (ie. grow lights, mj grow books, etc).

if they are using a tent persuade them to get a carbon filter if they aren't planning on using on already. a carbon filter will take care of the smell. then all you have to do is make sure the tent is in a good location (a spacious closet would be best if they insist on having people over or somewhere it can't be seen easily)

just putting a tent in a bedroom is a big mistake if you have friends/parties.

my advice is not to do either (friends or parties) @ the house as its only asking for trouble...whether the people over decide to try and rip you off or you guys get too loud or whatever and the cops get called out then they find it after investigating the situation.



I don't think YOU have anything to worry about personally. especially if the tent is in a bedroom of one of the people who have a card. if they have a card and the grow in their room its gonna be pretty hard for the cop to argue that its your grow...it'll be even harder for a jury to convict you if that situation.



Hope this helps.

 

[Prefontaine]

the main thing is, if you dont feel safe, why the fuck would you be living with those guys still? why would you let someone else's shit affect your education, just move if you cant handle it

 

[fabfun]

u worry to much go smoke something

 

[Beansly]

I would say talk to a lawyer about your immediate options, but if you're so against it then move away. Eventually if you become enough of a pain, they're gonna band together and probably kick YOU out.

 

[davoswavos]

"but if your gonna be smoking from that weed then don't be such a pansy, get yourself a card, pay for the electricity, pay part of the tent costs, pay part of the hydro/soil costs, basically share the costs and you'll share the benefits. "


Absolutely. Except my main concern is I just dont want to get into trouble

Maybe he didn't get the pansy part

 

[panhead]

I think your worry is based on getting caught & having the police problems effect your long term career goals am i correct ?

If so then dont give in,tell the other room mates that you wont go along with them growing inside the home you live in with them,dont be pressured into going along with anything just because the others are doing it.

It kills me when i see all the people on here act like somebody is a pussy because they want no part in growing weed,i mean fuck,we all know growing/using can destroy a life or job at the drop of a hat,state legal or not,even damages to the home via poor grow skills can follow everybody involved & stain your credit rating.

Seems to me your the only one in the house who's head isnt directly up their ass,your there to go to school & learn, not take chances on something stupid like an mj conviction stain your record before you ever start a career.

I would say just move,do you really want to be around dicks who do shit that can wreck your life & all they can say is for you to go get legal,nobody should be forced to apply for medical mj & have that follow them if they dont want to,either move or tell the room mates you are not going along with the plan,you can also ask your land lords permission if push comes to shove,tell them the only way your going along is if the land lord puts his approval in writing & agrees not to hold you responsible to any damage to the home like molds, fungi,electrical,holes in ceilings from vents ect,any damage caused from indoor cultivation.

You are right to be wary with other people involved where your credit rating or worse could be damaged,i personaly would not agree to it.

 

[THENUMBER1022]

from experience, if you aren't there when the warrent is serviced to go in and take everything, you aren't going to see a single legal document, aside from a copy of the warrent. If you are there, and say it was your room mates, you will probably get hit with pariphinalia if you have any pieces of you're own and thats worst case scenario. If you don't, you pretty much can play the dumb 'I didn't know" white boy routine and they don't ask too many questions.

Had 10+ fullsize plants and 3 lights taken thanks to my roommate throwing a party 2 nights in a row while I was on the other side of the continent. I had my bongs, jars, vap, bowls, and weed taken out of my room but never saw a charge since I wasn't around..

 

[THENUMBER1022]

And he said it was mine since the apartment was 100% in my name. Still, no charges.

 

[THENUMBER1022]

And that was with no legal cards.

 

[LearningToHigh]

Thanks for the input.

These three guys are my Friends. They wouldnt throw me under the bus. If we (they) got in trouble, and somehow I was linked, they would say it was all theirs.

I still am going to live here, and get my medical card of my own just to be safe. One of the kids has his cultivators licence and the document is posted right on the wall of the closet hes growing in.


A big fuck you to everyone who is calling me a pussy or an idiot. Your not in my situation and dont know me. I love marijuana more than anything but also realize it will be around for the next 70 years of my life, so I think 2-3 years of not growing/smoking every single day wont hurt me too bad.


So back on topic. If I get my med card, adn they are willing to say its all theirs if anything happens, I am good to go?