Lsd

laywhoish12 said:
i have some mental problems anyway which is why ive been into acid
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That is why you're not tripping then. It is not about dosage, with psychotherapeutic applications, it is about number of sessions. Sometimes, people with mental disorders actually negate the effects of exogenous substances.. to the point where they cannot feel them. This may be the case with you. My best advice for you, be patient. There is no need to take over 100µg (psycholytic therapy). It allows the conscious and unconscious mind to bridge, and will assist to alleviate your issues. Taking the amount "Thenumber1022" suggested fall into Psychedelic Therapy, which can actually make the problems worse. Like I said, it is the number of sessions. Not the dosage.

THENUMBER1022 said:
therefor: stop being a bitch, and put 3 hits of acid on your tung.
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It may not make a difference. I read a clinical trial of a man with severe Obsessive Compulsive Neurosis who was administered 1.8mh (not µg), and felt absolutely nothing. He showed zero signs of any substance in his body. He actually asked to leave the therapy room, and played (and won) a game of chess. He has no psychological or physiological symptoms.
 
Well I also have buddies that refuse to smoke, talk them into clearing a 1g bowl of heads on a 7mm amg with a pyrex diffuser, fucks up the every day pot head, has no effect on some people. The fact is; drugs hit everyone in a different way, no single person functions exactly the same. However, there are standard operating procedures, even for acid. If you watch that documentary about THC, the female reporter starts crying and freaking out on pure THC injected into her blood. She was not tolerant and the dosage far exceeded our 'standard operating procedure' of how we typically ingest marijuana. Putting LSD in a glass of water is only going to lessen your chances of tripping on the acid that is concentrated on a hit/blotter. He does not need to take 6, OBVIOUSLY. He also is feeling nothing at 1/2 + 1 halfway into the trip. Its a matter of the improper environment and amplifiers necessary to experience the trip he would like to experience. I am diagnosed stage 2 asthmatic, bipolar, ocd, and adhd. I trip fine, I smoke fine.

I just have a collection of the cleanest smoking devices you will ever see, considering they're used multiple times a day. :bigjoint:
 
Come on, anyone who is a veteran of using LSD will tell you, the first 5 or so trips, you're focused on if its going to work and that puts a huge damper on the experience. Allowing yourself to just fall into the trip is the most relaxing feeling but it takes many trips to achieve. Just like started a new job, and getting more comfortable with it over time.. You need to drive up and down the coarse a few times before you're ready to hit it like ken block.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiQxcbAzqiQ&playnext=1&list=PLBC50AE1681E57449

And even then, you might get lost!
 
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THENUMBER1022 said:
If you watch that documentary about THC, the female reporter starts crying and freaking out on pure THC injected into her blood. She was not tolerant and the dosage far exceeded our 'standard operating procedure' of how we typically ingest marijuana.
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At that point though, as I would imagine she had .4-.5mg THC / kG bodyweight, she reached the "Hallucinogenic Dosage" of THC. At that point, her mind works very similarly to how an LSD trip would.

THENUMBER1022 said:
Putting LSD in a glass of water is only going to lessen your chances of tripping on the acid that is concentrated on a hit/blotter.
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How so? If he drinks the whole glass, what is the difference? The LSD would disperse amongst the entirety of the water. There is no difference. He is titrating the LSD. The amount does not change.

THENUMBER1022 said:
Allowing yourself to just fall into the trip is the most relaxing feeling but it takes many trips to achieve. Just like started a new job, and getting more comfortable with it over time..
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The thing is, for people with extreme mental disorders, it can take up to 30 sessions (that is the highest I have read) for the mind to become comfortable with the exogenous presence, without cutting off the effects. Some people have a very strict sense of order and balance, which can absolutely negate the effects.

timeismoney1 said:
Dont take 500ug+ if your not ready to have a life changing experience!:leaf:
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As stated earlier though, the dosage will have no impact on someone with a severe mental disorder. Some will not even feel 500ug. It is the number of sessions that make a difference. You need to make the LSD feel at home in your brain. If your brain is blocking it, it will need to acknowledge that LSD is not a threat before the effects will work.

THENUMBER1022 said:
(just kidding. it really is dangerous for someone new to acid to experiment with such high dosages)
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Psychedelic Therapy, as opposed to Psycholytic Therapy, is always dangerous. The mind really does not need over 100 - 200µg to reach the maximum therapeutic potential. The point is to bridge the consciousness (unconscious - conscious mind), not to flip it. At high dosages, it can reinforce your afflictions.
 
shepj said:
How so? If he drinks the whole glass, what is the difference? The LSD would disperse amongst the entirety of the water. There is no difference. He is titrating the LSD. The amount does not change.



The thing is, for people with extreme mental disorders, it can take up to 30 sessions (that is the highest I have read) for the mind to become comfortable with the exogenous presence, without cutting off the effects. Some people have a very strict sense of order and balance, which can absolutely negate the effects.
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It does change. Because now the LSD is absorbed into a pint of water and not directly into your blood, and to your brain. Water takes on a different effect that placing something to absorb into your tongue. You are more likely to piss out a large amount of wasted LSD. Putting it on your tongue is proven and he's trying to mix it up while he's still having issues getting there.

Now, while we all appreciate you, the pretend doctor diagnosing him as incapable of experiencing a trip based on absolutely no medical records or personal experience of his particular disorder, it is only fair to assume that he should have a clear mind and not so many concerns while attempting to trip. Just telling yourself you have a mental disorder and can't trip, can hinder, if not: prevent a trip from occurring.

One can only assume this guy is 14-18 years old and has no idea what he is doing. The best thing to do is provide proper guidance for safety reasons. Not encourage ANYONE taking 9+ hits of acid. By telling him he is incapable of tripping on normal doses, he's going to attempt to compensate with high doses. I wouldnt recommend going into a trip under the assumption there is something wrong with you and you need more acid than every one else. That will only create a complete mindfuck. You ever see some one snap on acid? ;)
 
So far his problem is not knowing the reputability of the source, and having absolutely no idea what ug/mg (whatever you prefer) levels you are getting out of each tab/hit/blotter (again, whatever your terminology), in combination with not smoking weed and not drinking alcohol during the trip. Not saying these are completely necessary, especially with 5 hits of good acid, but it definitely makes the trip more peaceful and enjoyable. Once he knows he has a good source, knows to just put 3 on his tongue, and has an 1/8, or 1/4 of some good weed to smoke, I am confident he will trip like he wants to. He needs a clear head and the confidence to trip. I don't think its fair for anyone over the internet to judge how much acid this guys brain needs. (considering its agree'd, the general consensus prefers 3 on average.)
 
THENUMBER1022 said:
considering its agree'd, the general consensus prefers 3 on average.)
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3 of what? theres a big difference between 3 50ug everyday shit, and 3 fire 200ug NP's. even though im sure the op knows this already as do you. but many people reading this might not be as informed.
 
To the OP.. Assuming his hits are 150ug like he says... 2 would probably be best. also telling him the average number of hits people take are 2-4.
best to start with the low number and work your way up. and remember to take a break inbetween trips, if it doesn't work one day that doesn't mean try again the very next day. Also dont take shrooms and lsd back to back either, as there is some type of possible cross tolerance that may be affecting you.


By the way i never saw shepj suggest the guy take 9 hits, he suggested that he would have to take small doses many times before being able to feel it. from the way i read it, he wasn't saying that as a fact, but saying that as a possibility, of which it is.
there are many instances of peoples brain chemistry blocking the drug, and other drugs. and the OP did say he had mental issues, bringing this into light in the first place.


And by the way i know tons of people who throw a few hits in a drink and drink it, its absolutely possible.
Dont forget about electric koolaid brother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid#Alternative_meaning
 
THENUMBER1022 said:
It does change. Because now the LSD is absorbed into a pint of water and not directly into your blood, and to your brain.
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I see what you're getting at now. Kind of like comparing dried Psilocybe mushrooms to "Magic Truffles". The water weight really does change the dynamics of the trip. But other than that, he should still trip, it would just be in a different nature.. no?

THENUMBER1022 said:
the pretend doctor diagnosing him as incapable of experiencing a trip based on absolutely no medical records or personal experience of his particular disorder
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If he is not tripping, and knows his LSD is indeed LSD, there has to be a reason why. Generally people with personality disorders do not openly throw them around on a forum like it is their favorite color. He did state that he had mental issues that he was trying to utilize LSD to solve... (continued on next quote)

THENUMBER1022 said:
Just telling yourself you have a mental disorder and can't trip, can hinder, if not: prevent a trip from occurring.
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Making me think this is not even an issue.

THENUMBER1022 said:
By telling him he is incapable of tripping on normal doses, he's going to attempt to compensate with high doses. I wouldnt recommend going into a trip under the assumption there is something wrong with you and you need more acid than every one else.
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I have said what is effective multiple times. Low dosages, multiple sessions. No more than 200µg (2 WoW Blotters) on any single occasion.

DarthD3vl said:
and remember to take a break inbetween trips, if it doesn't work one day that doesn't mean try again the very next day. Also dont take shrooms and lsd back to back either, as there is some type of possible cross tolerance that may be affecting you.
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Great point. A break is definitely a necessity, especially if you are using other tryptamines (e.g. shrooms). Not only for the tolerance to go down, but also for you to integrate your trip into your life. I tripped on LSD back in August of '08, and am still understanding how portions of that trip work into my current life. Stacking more information into your head is not going to help you if you did not understand the beginning pieces.
 
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