Chitownsmoke(Sour D X Budda Kush Grow)

poplars

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just released my second batch less then an hour ago ... http://www.planetnatural.com/site/trichogramma-wasps.html
ahh you were who I was thinking of....


heh we don't even have those kind in my area... we have tiny lil red ones, big hornets, and all kinds of tiny ones I see flying around.... been growingin the same spot 4 years in a row no bud worms at all luckilly... but I feel for you guys who have to battle those bastards...
 

fdd2blk

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ahh you were who I was thinking of....


heh we don't even have those kind in my area... we have tiny lil red ones, big hornets, and all kinds of tiny ones I see flying around.... been growingin the same spot 4 years in a row no bud worms at all luckilly... but I feel for you guys who have to battle those bastards...
they are a 50th of an inch. if you had them you wouldn't know.



:)
 

poplars

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all about staying away from the pesticides... I've been blessed to not have to use any pesticides whatsoever.... tokin the bubba pheno sk right nowwww
 

theexpress

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all about staying away from the pesticides... I've been blessed to not have to use any pesticides whatsoever.... tokin the bubba pheno sk right nowwww
i hope i dont see any more fucking catarpillars....... seriously... the ones i seen today were fucking huge very easy to see easy an inch or a lil over.... im still very early into bud ill play it by ear... i cant spray the neem for the next few days because its gonna be way too hot and sunny
 

fdd2blk

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how do you keep then alive? just let them chill in the fridge? there pretty affordable i may give em a try... how long did it take for them to arive ?

i put them in the fridge until early evening, then put them out in my garden. i just order another order every couple weeks. they are cheap and shipping is FREE. :)
 

theexpress

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i put them in the fridge until early evening, then put them out in my garden. i just order another order every couple weeks. they are cheap and shipping is FREE. :)
ok let me know how they do in the next few days... like can you still see them on the plant day after day and shit like that... hopefully they chill in a 15 foot radious of the perimiter of your plants..
 

poplars

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I'm betting half-75% leave then the rest stay.... but that 25% is a hell of a lot better than nothing.


but you also gotta think, when you release bugs that aren't native to an environment you're messing with the ecosystem, maybe not in a signfiicant way, but there are things that jive with your eco system and things that dont... those that don't will die/leave.... those that do will flourish.


it would take a /lot/ of research though to figure out the exact temperments of the bugs you're putting into your environment.

I mean everything has to be in balance... too many wasps eat to many bugs, they run out of food, all die, then the bugs come back... or there simply not the bug for the job.... imo nature always works with synergistic reactions, so when we put /one/ thing out in the environment thinking it will work I think we're asking for failure vs getting several things that coincide well together and the environment...

I realize it probably seems like I"m overcomplicating this, but it truly is a fine balance and if you guys wanna get into using bugs to protect your grow you gotta make sure they jive with your environment and ecosystem.
 

fdd2blk

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I'm betting half-75% leave then the rest stay.... but that 25% is a hell of a lot better than nothing.


but you also gotta think, when you release bugs that aren't native to an environment you're messing with the ecosystem, maybe not in a signfiicant way, but there are things that jive with your eco system and things that dont... those that don't will die/leave.... those that do will flourish.


it would take a /lot/ of research though to figure out the exact temperments of the bugs you're putting into your environment.

I mean everything has to be in balance... too many wasps eat to many bugs, they run out of food, all die, then the bugs come back... or there simply not the bug for the job.... imo nature always works with synergistic reactions, so when we put /one/ thing out in the environment thinking it will work I think we're asking for failure vs getting several things that coincide well together and the environment...

I realize it probably seems like I"m overcomplicating this, but it truly is a fine balance and if you guys wanna get into using bugs to protect your grow you gotta make sure they jive with your environment and ecosystem.
the whole point is to offset the balance. i am trying to rid my yard of CATERPILLARS.

the bugs i ordered ARE the bugs for the job. that's why i ordered them.

:)
 

poplars

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the whole point is to offset the balance. i am trying to rid my yard of CATERPILLARS.

the bugs i ordered ARE the bugs for the job. that's why i ordered them.

:)
yeah I guess I"m just thinking in a more long term big picture perspective. I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to find bugs that will come back year after year and will be thorough. but hopefully those bugs work for you this year.

so as a fellow outdoor grower, when you're in mid flowering and the buds are really pushin it, do you ever get to the point where you're feeding every other watering? I'm just wondering because there seems to be a divide with growers out here on the subject... I'm seeing epic results at feeding every 3 days, and I'm thinking just feeding fatter every 3 days during mid flowering would be more effective than every other day, your take on this?
 

fdd2blk

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yeah I guess I"m just thinking in a more long term big picture perspective. I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to find bugs that will come back year after year and will be thorough. but hopefully those bugs work for you this year.

so as a fellow outdoor grower, when you're in mid flowering and the buds are really pushin it, do you ever get to the point where you're feeding every other watering? I'm just wondering because there seems to be a divide with growers out here on the subject... I'm seeing epic results at feeding every 3 days, and I'm thinking just feeding fatter every 3 days during mid flowering would be more effective than every other day, your take on this?

i feed every watering. have you seen how green my plants are? :-P IMG_3763.jpg
 

fdd2blk

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interesting what are you feeding them and how much per gal?

I got the whole roots organic line of liquid nutrients...
age old grow during veg and age old bloom during flowering. i don't know exactly how much. i am using a drip system and simply dump in 2 containers full into my barrels before i fill them. the containers hold about 2 cups. i used 7 gallons of veg formula and have used 4 gallons of bloom, so far. :eyesmoke:

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poplars

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age old grow during veg and age old bloom during flowering. i don't know exactly how much. i am using a drip system and simply dump in 2 containers full into my barrels before i fill them. the containers hold about 2 cups. i used 7 gallons of veg formula and have used 4 gallons of bloom, so far. :eyesmoke:

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ah I see... considering this I may be giving mine a lil too high of dosages at the moment... I'm giving them buddha bloom, HPK, and HP2 (they all have bat guano in them and all sorts of good shit...) the water by the time I give it to them is practically light orange-ish brown. so based on what I'm hearing here I should probably cut down and maybe switch to every other watering soon....
 

fdd2blk

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ah I see... considering this I may be giving mine a lil too high of dosages at the moment... I'm giving them buddha bloom, HPK, and HP2 (they all have bat guano in them and all sorts of good shit...) the water by the time I give it to them is practically light orange-ish brown. so based on what I'm hearing here I should probably cut down and maybe switch to every other watering soon....
i feed EVERY watering.

:)
 

poplars

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i feed EVERY watering.

:)
lol well I have to carry 5 gallon buckets (2 plants per 5 gal bucket) in a bushy 12 plant garden... so feeding every watering seems like a back problem waiting to happen ;)...... every other watering will be a bitch I can handle it... I'm gonna have to take another look at the amounts I"m feeding....
 
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