The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

hazyintentions

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The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today that nonfarm payroll employment was unchanged (0% change) in August, and the unemployment rate held at 9.1 percent. The last time this occurred was in World War II (1945).

Employment in most major industries changed little over the month. Health care continued to add jobs, and a decline in information employment reflected a strike. Government employment continued to trend down, despite the return of workers from a partial government shutdown in Minnesota.

The number of unemployed persons, at 14.0 million, was essentially unchanged in August, and the unemployment rate held at 9.1 percent. The rate has shown little change since April.

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (8.9 percent), adult women (8.0 percent), teenagers (25.4 percent), whites (8.0 percent), blacks (16.7 percent), and Hispanics (11.3 percent) showed little or no change in August. The jobless rate for Asians was 7.1 percent, not seasonally adjusted.

The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) was about unchanged at 6.0 million in August and accounted for 42.9 percent of the unemployed.

The labor force rose to 153.6 million in August. Both the civilian labor force participation rate, at 64.0 percent, and the employment-population ratio, at 58.2 percent, were little changed.

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) rose from 8.4 million to 8.8 million in August. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

About 2.6 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force in August, up from 2.4 million a year earlier. These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.

Among the marginally attached, there were 977,000 discouraged workers in August, down by 133,000 from a year earlier. Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.6 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in August had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities.
Yet according the mame our economy is fine, and bendbrewer said it's actually recovering. Right...

It's still Bushes fault I'm sure...

This report only reaffirms that basically everyone is office at the Federal level is failing, and yes I mean Obama too.
 

tryingtogrow89

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Yet according the mame our economy is fine, and bendbrewer said it's actually recovering. Right...

It's still Bushes fault I'm sure...

This report only reaffirms that basically everyone is office at the Federal level is failing, and yes I mean Obama too.
with an emphasis on soetoro!
 

munch box

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Solyndra was promised loans of up to $535 million under a guarantee program authorized by Congress as part of the 2009 stimulus package. The Energy Department has made more than 40 promises of guarantees, of which Solyndra was the first. It has committed $18 billion in guarantees and expects to allocate several billion dollars more by the time the program finishes at the end of September.
 

tryingtogrow89

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it is obama's fault that you sit on the computer all day trying to start a revolution while collecting unemployment instead of looking for a job?
We have been over this buck.
I didn't take my job away or any of the rest of the people who are unemployed.
Because i had to be subjected to collect unemployment i somehow collect now still?
Because i jump on my favorite .org from time to time and share words of wisdom i sit on my computer all day?
No, i get it, yo
u rode the short bus.:dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:
 

munch box

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Ron Paul did not support the funding of Solyndra, in fact has warned that passing the stimulus package would be akin to pouring kerosene on an already raging fire.
Paul, who is also a member of the House Financial Services Committee, warned that such measures will cause a recession to turn into a full scale depression possibly worse than that of the 1930s.
During a Television interview with CNN, Paul explained why he believes stimulus funding is such a destructive policy.
“It’s because the government is spending it. If the people were spending it it would be fine, but the government never does anything productive. They have to take money from productive individuals and spend it in non productive ways, so it’s just digging a bigger hole, getting us into bigger debt, and that is the problem.” Paul said.
“This stimulus package is going to cost each and every American $6700 of more debt, so how can that be beneficial? If debt was the answer we would of never had a problem.”
“We are doing exactly what we did in the 1930s, we are taking a recession and working very hard to try and turn it into a depression.” The Congressman added.
“What we’re worried about right now, well certainly I am, is that it’s worse than the 30’s because we’re on the verge of destroying the dollar. So if you think the financial crisis is bad, and the financial system isn’t working, wait ’til you find out when the Dollar doesn’t work.”​
 

UncleBuck

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We have been over this buck.
I didn't take my job away or any of the rest of the people who are unemployed.
Because i had to be subjected to collect unemployment i somehow collect now still?
Because i jump on my favorite .org from time to time and share words of wisdom i sit on my computer all day?
No, i get it, yo
u rode the short bus.:dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:
you were "subjected to" unemployment?

nope. you have to APPLY for unemployment. AND look for work.

you CHOSE to collect unemployment.

and you have not yet denied that you STILL do.

that tells me a lot.
 

munch box

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you were "subjected to" unemployment?

nope. you have to APPLY for unemployment. AND look for work.

you CHOSE to collect unemployment.

and you have not yet denied that you STILL do.

that tells me a lot.
What has that guy done to you personally, to make you ride him so hard like this? So hes having a touph time finding a job. Big deal so are a lot of people, like 14 million........ Or Maybe he could go apply for a job at Solyndra. Obama says he sees a lot of potential in that company. So if hes lucky, he'll have a job till October
 

deprave

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Ron Paul on Cavuto About Fema again
[video=youtube;slJzdhJNSKI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slJzdhJNSKI[/video]
 

tryingtogrow89

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you were "subjected to" unemployment?

nope. you have to APPLY for unemployment. AND look for work.

you CHOSE to collect unemployment.

and you have not yet denied that you STILL do.

that tells me a lot.
No somehow you find morale high ground making fun of the millions of americans unemployed.Further more i was subjected to it. Never once did i ever have to collect untill recently, what a great american you are.
 

munch box

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Philip Klein: “No president since Harry Truman has been reelected with approval ratings this low, this late into his first term.”

(LA Times) –President Obama’s summer woes have dragged his approval rating to an all-time low, sinking below 40% for the first time in Gallup’s daily tracking poll.
New data posted Sunday shows that 39% of Americans approve of Obama’s job performance, while 54% disapprove. Both are the worst numbers of his presidency.

 

redivider

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yep, i don't approve of obama's constant caving to republicans' demands.

and he's really held himself up by not really demonstrating specifics as to how republicans on one side are against job creating policies, while asking for money to put those policies into practice in the back.

he's doing a good job of leading though.
 

Parker

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Ron Paul did not support the funding of Solyndra, in fact has warned that passing the stimulus package would be akin to pouring kerosene on an already raging fire.
Paul, who is also a member of the House Financial Services Committee, warned that such measures will cause a recession to turn into a full scale depression possibly worse than that of the 1930s.
During a Television interview with CNN, Paul explained why he believes stimulus funding is such a destructive policy.
“It’s because the government is spending it. If the people were spending it it would be fine, but the government never does anything productive. They have to take money from productive individuals and spend it in non productive ways, so it’s just digging a bigger hole, getting us into bigger debt, and that is the problem.” Paul said.
“This stimulus package is going to cost each and every American $6700 of more debt, so how can that be beneficial? If debt was the answer we would of never had a problem.”
“We are doing exactly what we did in the 1930s, we are taking a recession and working very hard to try and turn it into a depression.” The Congressman added.
“What we’re worried about right now, well certainly I am, is that it’s worse than the 30’s because we’re on the verge of destroying the dollar. So if you think the financial crisis is bad, and the financial system isn’t working, wait ’til you find out when the Dollar doesn’t work.”​
The benevolent ones who we allow to run our lives do not have our best interests in mind. Otherwise why repeat failed policies? I understand the ones who benefit directly (like bankers) would like the manipulation. I don't understand how the average person in the general population thinks they will benefit from any government manipulation in the long run.
 

Parker

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you were "subjected to" unemployment?
nope. you have to APPLY for unemployment. AND look for work.
you CHOSE to collect unemployment.
and you have not yet denied that you STILL do.
that tells me a lot.
He was forced to pay into the system. That's his money, of course he should get it back.
 

Carthoris

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he didn't even know who ron paul was 4 years ago, but he voted nader.


i've been trolled.
I knew his name but had never seen him on TV til 4 years ago. It wasn't until the republican debates of the last election that I actually heard him speak. It might of been the one where Rudy Giuliani got owned by Ron Paul.

[video=youtube;KuX73Ixqtbg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuX73Ixqtbg&feature=player_embedded[/video]

After that I actually started paying attention to him. The more I read about him, the more I heard him talk, the more I realized he was one of the few honest people I had ever seen on TV. He is even willing to put his personal convictions aside and uphold the Constitution as the laws everyone should live by. The only thing I ever really heard and disagreed with him about was abortion. I really didn't agree that abortion should be outlawed. I agree that it was morally wrong, but I think that women do have a right to their body. Then I actually looked up his positions on it and listened to him speak about it, like in this one where he talks about witnessing an abortion (1:55 in the video):
[video=youtube;FGyBUKMffaA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGyBUKMffaA[/video]

Or in this one, where he talks about it to the house or senate.

[video=youtube;Lg22y0mS7t4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg22y0mS7t4&feature=player_detailpage#t=154s[/video]

After hearing Ron Paul speak, and understanding his side. I can understand his position on it, I would never want a sexual partner of mine to have an abortion, except possibly if the baby had something horribly wrong with it or she had a high chance of dying.

So here was something I felt strongly about, and the politician that most closely mirrored my own beliefs was my polar opposite. I really had to question him and try to understand how someone who was 100% liberty and freedom could then go and believe in restricting someone's life or their body.

I am not catholic, and I don't think that condoms are a sin, I strongly support people using birth control, I think the morning after pill should be a lot easier to get, and I think Abortions up to a
certain point are a persons choice. However, at what point is a baby a baby? Is it when it cries and breaths? Is it when you deliver it? Babies have been born and lived before 22 weeks. Once a baby is a baby and not just a pile of cum in a woman's stomach aborting it becomes murder. Murder is illegal per the Constitution. If the baby has a chance of living on its own, then it is murder to kill it.

The realization that he is against letting people murder babies and not against abortion as an act made more sense. While I may not be 100% in agreement with Ron Paul about when a baby is a baby, I respect the fact that he thinks the federal government should not be legislating morality due to our constitution. He wants to leave it up to the states to decide, which makes a lot of sense. Our country is not a whole. It is 50 individual states with different beliefs and people. Ron Paul is so enamored with the Constitution that he votes against things he believes in because they are unconstitutional.

The realization of all that took away the one reservation I had of Dr Ron Paul. In four years, this man has become the only politician in my lifetime who I honestly could love, or even like for that matter. I love Ron Paul as if he were my family. I would probably cry if I ever get the chance to meet him. He is unparalleled in his defense of freedom, the Constitution, and the people of the United States of America. He is a shining example of what a man could and should be. Even if he does not win, he has taught me something, and renewed my faith in humanity.
 
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