Great PBS documentary on MMJ

Marlboro47

Marlboro47

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I wonder if any doctors are worried about their careers if they support marijuana too much. It looks like the doctors are hiding something from us. I can't wait till everything is proven so I know exactly what to expect after smoking pot for 20+years.
 
iefresh47

iefresh47

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Awesome video! Educational and informative, having it deal with the beneficial side of it medically and helping people with everyday life that this great plant does!
Thank you for sharing it! :mrgreen:
 
cranker

cranker

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iefresh47 said:
Awesome video! Educational and informative, having it deal with the beneficial side of it medically and helping people with everyday life that this great plant does!
Thank you for sharing it! :mrgreen:
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You're welcome. I kinda wanna punch that one guy but the rest is a lot of good learning. He does have a point about the FDA though.
 
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mae

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The FDA cannot test drugs that are schedule 1, so there's no way cannabis testing and approval can come from the FDA and that prick doctor knows it. He says it should go through the FDA but that's impossible. It's a catch 22.
 
cranker

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mae said:
The FDA cannot test drugs that are schedule 1, so there's no way cannabis testing and approval can come from the FDA and that prick doctor knows it. He says it should go through the FDA but that's impossible. It's a catch 22.
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They can test the chemicals if they are seperated though, THC is available in pill form, but it's not very effective. If they can figure out how to copy the cannabanoids then they can send it through. It makes sense if you really think about it, I mean there has to be guidelines, unfortunately cannabis is in a really strange position, seeing as it's a plant, but it's illegal. There's no real precedence for it.
 
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mae

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It needs to be changed to schedule 2, at the very least.

I mean, it should be a schedule nothing, but downgradeding it one step is at least a start.
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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How can the U.S. Government have a patent on a schedule 1 drug.......their patent on marijuana kind of puts a damper on the vilitity of MJ being a schedule 1 drug

They brought to the attention of the viewers of this video a fact...major big pharma compainies get patents on the cannabinoids.... but they totally never mentioned 1 word about the US Government's patent good til 2021:leaf:
 
cranker

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I'm gonna watch the whole documentary at some point when I have the time, there's a link to it mentioned in there, I wanna see what else they have goin on.
 
sonar

sonar

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It all comes down to money in both medicine/big pharma and the justice system. Keeping it illegal helps both.

Justice System:
If the federal and state governments would repeal all the the laws regarding the sale, possession, and cultivation of cannabis it would be a tidal wave. Cannabis prohibition simply employs too many people. From police, to judges, lawyers, prison guards, probation officers, etc, the list goes on and on. Bottom line, cannabis prohibition provides these people a lifetime of job security and government benefits. That doesn't even take into consideration all the people currently incarcerated for marijuana only offenses who would theoretically have to be released from prison. That would make a lot of empty beds.

Medically:
Big pharma would probably be the biggest loser. That's why they are already putting these patents out for different cannabinoids. I'm not even sure how that is possible really. That's like putting a patent on caffeine. How do you own a molecule that is naturally occuring in nature? Keeping it illegal lets them work with "synthetic" version that they can pick and choose then sell back to us as a medication. As someone who believes in science and understands the scientific method, I do believe we should research exactly what chemical does what and proper dosage, however I do feel like big pharma is trying to establish a monopoly. "No, no you can't smoke the whole plant, you must buy these pills off of us for $500 a month."
 
cranker

cranker

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sonar said:
It all comes down to money in both medicine/big pharma and the justice system. Keeping it illegal helps both.

Justice System:
If the federal and state governments would repeal all the the laws regarding the sale, possession, and cultivation of cannabis it would be a tidal wave. Cannabis prohibition simply employs too many people. From police, to judges, lawyers, prison guards, probation officers, etc, the list goes on and on. Bottom line, cannabis prohibition provides these people a lifetime of job security and government benefits. That doesn't even take into consideration all the people currently incarcerated for marijuana only offenses who would theoretically have to be released from prison. That would make a lot of empty beds.

Medically:
Big pharma would probably be the biggest loser. That's why they are already putting these patents out for different cannabinoids. I'm not even sure how that is possible really. That's like putting a patent on caffeine. How do you own a molecule that is naturally occuring in nature? Keeping it illegal lets them work with "synthetic" version that they can pick and choose then sell back to us as a medication. As someone who believes in science and understands the scientific method, I do believe we should research exactly what chemical does what and proper dosage, however I do feel like big pharma is trying to establish a monopoly. "No, no you can't smoke the whole plant, you must buy these pills off of us for $500 a month."
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Something like 1/3 the human genome is patented.
 
snew

snew

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I really enjoyed the mew clip. It made reference to longer version on Montana PBS if any one finds this please post it.

Thanks
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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sonar said:
It all comes down to money in both medicine/big pharma and the justice system. Keeping it illegal helps both.

Justice System:
If the federal and state governments would repeal all the the laws regarding the sale, possession, and cultivation of cannabis it would be a tidal wave. Cannabis prohibition simply employs too many people. From police, to judges, lawyers, prison guards, probation officers, etc, the list goes on and on. Bottom line, cannabis prohibition provides these people a lifetime of job security and government benefits. That doesn't even take into consideration all the people currently incarcerated for marijuana only offenses who would theoretically have to be released from prison. That would make a lot of empty beds.

Medically:
Big pharma would probably be the biggest loser. That's why they are already putting these patents out for different cannabinoids. I'm not even sure how that is possible really. That's like putting a patent on caffeine. How do you own a molecule that is naturally occuring in nature? Keeping it illegal lets them work with "synthetic" version that they can pick and choose then sell back to us as a medication. As someone who believes in science and understands the scientific method, I do believe we should research exactly what chemical does what and proper dosage, however I do feel like big pharma is trying to establish a monopoly. "No, no you can't smoke the whole plant, you must buy these pills off of us for $500 a month."
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There cannot be patents issued for plants, which is the very reason big pharma keeps the feds involved. The chemicals in marijuana work either independently or in conjunction with one another. It's impossible to isolate all the combinations into pill form as they do with valium extracting from valerian root. So b/c they cannot make any $$, the game continues to eliminate the competition...as in us.
 
snew

snew

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Sunbiz1 said:
There cannot be patents issued for plants, which is the very reason big pharma keeps the feds involved. The chemicals in marijuana work either independently or in conjunction with one another. It's impossible to isolate all the combinations into pill form as they do with valium extracting from valerian root. So b/c they cannot make any $$, the game continues to eliminate the competition...as in us.
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Sorry but you can patent plants. When things become legal i'm sure big Business will be there with patents quickly and if they can do what they've done to corn the industry will have little choose but to use there products.
Yes the small grower will still find non-GMO but the large scale will adapt.
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2009/12/monsanto_uses_patent_law_to_co.html

SUCK don't it
 
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