The great thermite debate.

[NoDrama]

any chance that a 600 mph jumbo jet may have knocked the slurry off the pillars/steel/peoples dentures?

come on drama, you are almost there.....terrorists knocked down the buildings. not george bush.

First off, I have NEVER contended that BUSH had anything whatsoever to do with 911, not even a little bit.

As far as a jumbo jet knocking the slurry off, it COULD have happened, or it may not have happened. Like I said previously, its all pure speculation. Sure, some might have come off, but for it all to collapse like that means that it would have to have been all blown off and in both buildings to boot. You don't see piles of asbestos slurry on the sidewalk, in fact you find NONE at all, which leads me to believe that the asbestos was intact.

 

[feff f]

cant we stick to growing weed??

that would be in the "growing weed" section of riu. to get in here you had to click on a link that clearly reads POLITICS.

 

[feff f]

First off, I have NEVER contended that BUSH had anything whatsoever to do with 911, not even a little bit.

As far as a jumbo jet knocking the slurry off, it COULD have happened, or it may not have happened. Like I said previously, its all pure speculation. Sure, some might have come off, but for it all to collapse like that means that it would have to have been all blown off and in both buildings to boot. You don't see piles of asbestos slurry on the sidewalk, in fact you find NONE at all, which leads me to believe that the asbestos was intact.

wasnt on the sidewalks cuz all the first responders inhailed it while running into the building.

btw, many of the box beams were severed in half by the giant fucking plane that just flew through them and out the other side of the building.

next argument will be that a plane shouldnt have been able to penetrate the glass on the outside of the building.....it was "safety" glass which is completely indestructable.

 

[ginjawarrior]

First off, I have NEVER contended that BUSH had anything whatsoever to do with 911, not even a little bit.

As far as a jumbo jet knocking the slurry off, it COULD have happened, or it may not have happened. Like I said previously, its all pure speculation. Sure, some might have come off, but for it all to collapse like that means that it would have to have been all blown off and in both buildings to boot. You don't see piles of asbestos slurry on the sidewalk, in fact you find NONE at all, which leads me to believe that the asbestos was intact.

lol at sidewalk you on meds today?

 

[ginjawarrior]

plane shouldnt have been able to penetrate the glass on the outside of the building.....it was "safety" glass which is completely indestructable.

lol shit i've just "woken up" 757 couldn't have broken that. tin can vs indestructible glass?
you try throwing tin can at that stuff it never breaks
false flag!!!

 

[feff f]

and another thing about the box beams. if they were covered in asbestos and part of the beam was severed, allowing a fire to burn inside the beam, the asbestos would have the opposite effect of fire retardation. it would hold the heat inside the box and cause the temps to be much higher than an uncovered box that would allow heat to disapate.

 

[ginjawarrior]

i'd love to see nodrama link to any sort of impact rating for this slurry must be mighty tough stuff to work as he says it does

 

[feff f]

i'd love to see nodrama link to any sort of impact rating for this slurry must be mighty tough stuff to work as he says it does

i see it all the time in some of the older buildings around here. it basically looks like if you sprayed a mouse house (that pile of ground up chewed crap that mice build their nests out of) on beams. kinda like ground up tissue paper, dipped in water, then shot all over the fucking place. or like the stuff you empty out of the cannister of your vaccuum cleaner. it has no structural value at all but is a pretty good fire barrier.

 

[ginjawarrior]

i see it all the time in some of the older buildings around here. it basically looks like if you sprayed a mouse house (that pile of ground up chewed crap that mice build their nests out of) on beams. kinda like ground up tissue paper, dipped in water, then shot all over the fucking place. or like the stuff you empty out of the cannister of your vaccuum cleaner. it has no structural value at all but is a pretty good fire barrier.

how similar is it to expanded foam?

im guessing it holds its shape roughly the same but the slurry is more brittle or delicate?

 

[feff f]

how similar is it to expanded foam?

im guessing it holds its shape roughly the same but the slurry is more brittle or delicate?

more similar to blown in insulation than foam. its mixed with some sort of glue. if you took toilet paper and balled it up, dunked it in water, then threw it against the ceiling.....kinda like that but gray in color.

i never seen it applied but i am sure its shot out of some sort of hose in similar fashion to blowing in insulation.

edit, not nearly as tough as the expanded foam.

 

[ginjawarrior]

more similar to blown in insulation than foam. its mixed with some sort of glue. if you took toilet paper and balled it up, dunked it in water, then threw it against the ceiling.....kinda like that but gray in color.

i never seen it applied but i am sure its shot out of some sort of hose in similar fashion to blowing in insulation.

edit, not nearly as tough as the expanded foam.

yeah i seen similar stuff here definitely no match for any impact defo not 600 mph jumbo

 

[Mr Neutron]

It's an incredible story, to be sure. Honestly, I cannot understand how anyone with a fair amount of curiosity and open-mindedness can buy the official version. It seems more like fantasy than any conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
The 9/11 Omission was under funded and stone walled at attempts to question key players in the Bush admin.
They also failed to address WTC 7 which was NOT hit by a plane.
Huge surges in the purchasing of put options prior to 9/11 on United and American Airlines; the companies that insured the WTC (which was privatized 6 weeks earlier); companies hurt by the attack Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, BoA; and huge purchases of 5-year Treasury notes.
Or how about the 6 or 7 hijackers that surfaced after 9/11 to say that they are not dead nor hijackers.
Or how about the 5 Israelis celebrating the fall of the towers?
Or Ghouliniani being warned of the building collapse, 10 before it happened.
Or why FEMA was dispatched to NYC on 9/10 to run disaster drills.
Or why the air defense was scheduled to simulate hijacked airplanes being flown into buildings. This, of course, followed a major change in the chain of command in the air defense mechanism, where Cheney was put in charge of all operations. How conveeeenient.
Or why was the crime scene cleaned up so quickly that a proper investigation could take place and all materials either destroyed or recycled. (all three crash sites)
Or Larry Silverstein, on camera, saying "we decided to pull it", meaning to drop building 7.
Or the massive denial campaign that followed implying that if you didn't buy into the official story, you're a terrorist.
Or how about the pools of molten steel found weeks after the attack.

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty." W

 

[ginjawarrior]

It's an incredible story, to be sure. Honestly, I cannot understand how anyone with a fair amount of curiosity and open-mindedness can buy the official version. It seems more like fantasy than any conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
The 9/11 Omission was under funded and stone walled at attempts to question key players in the Bush admin.
They also failed to address WTC 7 which was NOT hit by a plane.
Huge surges in the purchasing of put options prior to 9/11 on United and American Airlines; the companies that insured the WTC (which was privatized 6 weeks earlier); companies hurt by the attack Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, BoA; and huge purchases of 5-year Treasury notes.
Or how about the 6 or 7 hijackers that surfaced after 9/11 to say that they are not dead nor hijackers.
Or how about the 5 Israelis celebrating the fall of the towers?
Or Ghouliniani being warned of the building collapse, 10 before it happened.
Or why FEMA was dispatched to NYC on 9/10 to run disaster drills.
Or why the air defense was scheduled to simulate hijacked airplanes being flown into buildings. This, of course, followed a major change in the chain of command in the air defense mechanism, where Cheney was put in charge of all operations. How conveeeenient.
Or why was the crime scene cleaned up so quickly that a proper investigation could take place and all materials either destroyed or recycled. (all three crash sites)
Or Larry Silverstein, on camera, saying "we decided to pull it", meaning to drop building 7.
Or the massive denial campaign that followed implying that if you didn't buy into the official story, you're a terrorist.
Or how about the pools of molten steel found weeks after the attack.

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty." W

i feel like im hitting my head against a very thick brickwall here

building 7 was hit by a mother fucking giant fucking huge fucking falling fucking sky scraper

hint thats worse than a plane...

"Huge surges in the purchasing of put options prior to 9/11 on United and American Airlines; the companies that insured the WTC (which was privatized 6 weeks earlier); companies hurt by the attack Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, BoA; and huge purchases of 5-year Treasury notes."

irrelevant unless you got link to 911

"Or how about the 6 or 7 hijackers that surfaced after 9/11 to say that they are not dead nor hijackers. "

poor journalism and an over abundance of muslims with same name

"Or how about the 5 Israelis celebrating the fall of the towers?"

irrelevant got muslims celebrating across world too

"Or Ghouliniani being warned of the building collapse, 10 before it happened."

linky?

"Or why FEMA was dispatched to NYC on 9/10 to run disaster drills."

irrelevant unless you got link to 911 itself

"Or why the air defense was scheduled to simulate hijacked airplanes being flown into buildings. This, of course, followed a major change in the chain of command in the air defense mechanism, where Cheney was put in charge of all operations. How conveeeenient."

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/NORAD

"Or why was the crime scene cleaned up so quickly that a proper investigation could take place and all materials either destroyed or recycled. (all three crash sites)"

sorry but what were they searching for in 100's thousands of tons?

"Or Larry Silverstein, on camera, saying "we decided to pull it", meaning to drop building 7."

pull the fire fighters from dangerously unstable building?

"Or the massive denial campaign that followed implying that if you didn't buy into the official story, you're a terrorist."

cause the conspiracies storys are pretty damaging to some americans mentalhealth

i can attest to that personally as i have watched steady decline over last decade

"Or how about the pools of molten steel found weeks after the attack."

this ones a zinger its actually to do with wtc

got any evidence of molten steel at wtc? i warn you i got a snazzy youtube for you

ps if your gonna put stuff up links/evidence of your claims normally helps

 

[Mr Neutron]

Well, thank you for confirming my suspicions about you.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." Churchill

"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.'' W James

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." B Russell

 

[ginjawarrior]

Well, thank you for confirming my suspicions about you.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." Churchill

"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.'' W James

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." B Russell

have you nothing to say but random quotes?

 

[Mr Neutron]

They pretty much say it all.

 

[ginjawarrior]

They pretty much say it all.

lol to me those quotes say your unoriginal, lazy, unsubstantial

so would i be correct when you say "They pretty much say it all"?

 

[Mr Neutron]

lol to me those quotes say your unoriginal, lazy, unsubstantial

so would i be correct when you say "They pretty much say it all"?

Not at all. My thoughts, their words. I don't plagiarize.
Your answers tell me that you will believe anything that supports your fears and prejudices.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Not at all. My thoughts, their words. I don't plagiarize.
Your answers tell me that you will believe anything that supports your fears and prejudices.

not even a whimper of debate?

i have looked at facts about 911 and owned up to my previous idiocy

what your lack of argument adds up to
= you are not brave enough to own your own mistakes

 

[ginjawarrior]

damn shame on me forgot my "molten steel vid"

[youtube]7YXzjAKJQOg[/youtube]

anyone who thinks they have substance pls provide links