Irish Boys Return Of The Inferno With The Spectra 180's

irishboy

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That's awesome, the problem with LEDs is now that they are too powerful haha. Did he say what the new recommended heights are for the panels now?
no kidding.lol. i am not sure on the height but i think its a good amount. some are running their 290's like 4' and liking it. i keep mine around 34" seem cool but only timer will tell every strain acts different. he knows more then me though
That is some great info Irish!!

did the lab results show what the best hieght was in the test? I'm wondering if i should put mine back to 38"....

I have been having a hard time reaching Mike in the past week. we spoke last thursday but I haven't been able to reach him since. He has been reading my emails but nt responding to them. now the voice mail box is full and I can't even leave a message. I'd really like to get the broken UFO replaced!!! has he been swamped or something?
i think he has been swamped with the lights and just life, hasn't been too easy getting a hold of him either for me. i will tell him about you next time i talk to him for sure. i dont talk to him all that much if not needed, he will call and tell me about things like i just posted, but thats not allot. but ill try for you.
 

Kaptain Kron

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i like these led's only other ones i've been interested in besides blackstar and kessil which i own both, but im still slightly thrown by the price for what i get, i see you get excellent results as well as other people but it just seems like a lil too much $ for what i get. Im still following this with a lot of interest though because with these new ones out now its a whole new ball game to think about if i can burn my leaves just having it around 20 inches or so lol. I can put my blackstar just about on the plants, but it rapes my footprint thats why these intrigue me just like the kessil, more penetration to allow for higher placement of lights allowing for more modularity. keep up the good work
 

irishboy

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i like these led's only other ones i've been interested in besides blackstar and kessil which i own both, but im still slightly thrown by the price for what i get, i see you get excellent results as well as other people but it just seems like a lil too much $ for what i get. Im still following this with a lot of interest though because with these new ones out now its a whole new ball game to think about if i can burn my leaves just having it around 20 inches or so lol. I can put my blackstar just about on the plants, but it rapes my footprint thats why these intrigue me just like the kessil, more penetration to allow for higher placement of lights allowing for more modularity. keep up the good work
the black stars are really cheaper. their 240w is only 130w? or somthing. also i seen a video on youtube with a dude taking them apart and they were not 3w leds. kessil is the most over priced, i dont get that one? gut BS dose work desent ive seen a few cool grow with quality meds not big yield but quality. just dont like how they scam people into thinking their getting a great deal on a 240w light and its really only 130w, i also seen a video on youtube with a guy saying their not 3w leds when he took them apart. not sure how true that is though? but they make quality meds and i would think their one of the other better companys out their besides the spectras, just wish black star would stop the misleading BS!

leds are not cheap but ive yet have had a havest where it did not pay for the lights on the 1st run in savings from buying meds. even the the high power 600w i ran back in the day i pulled 19oz from 4 plants and i think the lights was close to 2g's? no two led company's are the same, most are just scams and after quick money and they pop up everyday
 

joey2011

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I finally got them but about 15 of the led chips are not working you got to be shittng me. Anyone had this problem ?
 

stoneyluv

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I finally got them but about 15 of the led chips are not working you got to be shittng me. Anyone had this problem ?
it is possible that it is broke. it is also possible that these are the diodes that are not visible to the eye. take a photo of the panel with it turned on and see if the led's are visible in the photo. your gonna have to play with the angle so you don't just get a blur. is it the exact same diodes in both panels?

the plants can see em but we can't.
 

hippy132

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I got two new 180's from Mike at GLH. I am growing in 4x4x8 ft tent, moved the lites down to 22 inches and after 2 hours started to see the ladies start burning , moved back to 32 inches. Question I have is what happens when I try to flower, can I get them close enough not to burn, or should I see mike about new PS?

Thanks for help.
 

irishboy

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it is possible that it is broke. it is also possible that these are the diodes that are not visible to the eye. take a photo of the panel with it turned on and see if the led's are visible in the photo. your gonna have to play with the angle so you don't just get a blur. is it the exact same diodes in both panels?

the plants can see em but we can't.
yup. everyone thinks that. now if their in a straight row then its a issue..
 

fartman

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my lights r all the way up as high as i can get them and theres 33 inches f 001.JPGover canopy and its killing my plant this is so fristrating i pent alotta money and time on this plant,on top of that mike wont answer his phonef 002.JPG
 

irishboy

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my lights r all the way up as high as i can get them and theres 33 inches View attachment 1776427over canopy and its killing my plant this is so fristrating i pent alotta money and time on this plant,on top of that mike wont answer his phoneView attachment 1776426
to be honest that dose not look like a issue ive seen with Mikes lights, its more of a burning look. to me that looks like ur plants under or over watered?
 

fartman

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it did this same thing the other day and i raised the lights and it stood back up,the last time i fed it was 2 days ago,i did just put a jar of water on it in case it was underwatered , plus i have 4 other plants that r shorter(right now) that get fed the same and they r beutiful,the only other thing i can think of is i left the moisture meter in it and it might of started corroding causing some kind of acid also a few days back i wanted to see how the overlap of lights was so i put the light in the overlap area and it did this so i moved it back and tied it up and in 15 minutes it stood up on its own again
 

joey2011

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Its not a row, but even some red are flickering plus when i put them both side by side its a diff pattern to what ones arnt working ?
 

irishboy

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hey irish how has the grow been treating you these days
their looking great! about to flower real soon! i am very happy with these girls even in the crazy high temps i have.. ill get pics up for you guys soon!
it did this same thing the other day and i raised the lights and it stood back up,the last time i fed it was 2 days ago,i did just put a jar of water on it in case it was underwatered , plus i have 4 other plants that r shorter(right now) that get fed the same and they r beutiful,the only other thing i can think of is i left the moisture meter in it an it night of started corroding causing some kind of acid
IDK bro ive seen allot of grows with these lights and never seen anything like that.. i really dont think its the lights bro? i have yet to see that unless you under or over water or putting them threw stress like high temps or even root trouble. dont know what to say bro, 1st ive seen that and i am not thinking its the lights fault? could be but ive never seen that.
 

irishboy

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Its not a row, but even some red are flickering plus when i put them both side by side its a diff pattern to what ones arnt working ?
not sure i would try to get a hold of Mike and see whats going on? shoot me a PM with some kind of info that Mike can recognize you by and if i talk to him all let him know for ya. i nener heard of that? the power supply is what would cause that and if that was the case it would be a row.. but Mike needs to be let know this because he can then rip the makers in china a new one!
 

Kaptain Kron

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lots of truth in this except for the fact that blackstar doesnt use 3w leds, they use 3w driven at 1w for longevity they still get better penetration out of the 3w than 1w even though they are being driven to 1w, having done some more math, your led really isnt that much more expensive than the blackstars if you look at actual wattage used because you cant compare a 240 blackstar to one of these 180w lights they are stronger, not by much but they are stronger. If i get another panel im gonna grab one of these for a test run, but im really probably gonna be staying with kessil. If you know the actual tech thats in the kessil you would know its not overpriced, i had family that used to work for dicon years ago, this technology has been around longer than the leds we use in our panels, its stronger light uses less power, yea they are still a little expensive but you cant say overpriced for what they do. Are they expensive yes, do they produce results absofuckinlutely they do, 2 of em made my blackstar look like a kiddy toy to put it that way. 3 of the h150's i KNOW would beat out one of these 180's. I ended up pulling a lil over a half pound off of 3 of them with an extreme spider mite and gnat infestation along with a table that was screened way to late and actually had nug cut off that could have developed more and an overpacked table. BS works like you said but i think yeild could be better, quality though i got no complaints.

the black stars are really cheaper. their 240w is only 130w? or somthing. also i seen a video on youtube with a dude taking them apart and they were not 3w leds. kessil is the most over priced, i dont get that one? gut BS dose work desent ive seen a few cool grow with quality meds not big yield but quality. just dont like how they scam people into thinking their getting a great deal on a 240w light and its really only 130w, i also seen a video on youtube with a guy saying their not 3w leds when he took them apart. not sure how true that is though? but they make quality meds and i would think their one of the other better companys out their besides the spectras, just wish black star would stop the misleading BS!

leds are not cheap but ive yet have had a havest where it did not pay for the lights on the 1st run in savings from buying meds. even the the high power 600w i ran back in the day i pulled 19oz from 4 plants and i think the lights was close to 2g's? no two led company's are the same, most are just scams and after quick money and they pop up everyday
 

irishboy

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lots of truth in this except for the fact that blackstar doesnt use 3w leds, they use 3w driven at 1w for longevity they still get better penetration out of the 3w than 1w even though they are being driven to 1w, having done some more math, your led really isnt that much more expensive than the blackstars if you look at actual wattage used because you cant compare a 240 blackstar to one of these 180w lights they are stronger, not by much but they are stronger. If i get another panel im gonna grab one of these for a test run, but im really probably gonna be staying with kessil. If you know the actual tech thats in the kessil you would know its not overpriced, i had family that used to work for dicon years ago, this technology has been around longer than the leds we use in our panels, its stronger light uses less power, yea they are still a little expensive but you cant say overpriced for what they do. Are they expensive yes, do they produce results absofuckinlutely they do, 2 of em made my blackstar look like a kiddy toy to put it that way. 3 of the h150's i KNOW would beat out one of these 180's. I ended up pulling a lil over a half pound off of 3 of them with an extreme spider mite and gnat infestation along with a table that was screened way to late and actually had nug cut off that could have developed more and an overpacked table. BS works like you said but i think yeild could be better, quality though i got no complaints.
you have any pics of ur kessil grow? everyone ive talked to says then did work good for them at all. ive yet to see good results in a journal and from what ive seen their way over priced, leds are figured cost per watt. so in that case and not seeing any huge yeilds documented they are over priced to me.

i did not know that about the BS usesing 3w leds powered down to 1w? still missleading and the units names are very misleading, but ya quality of buds is their bud yeilds are really lacking and so if the foot print. thats another things about the kessil i dont like is the foot print for the price is not good at all you need to spend allot of money to get a alright foot print from what ive been told? please post some pics of the 1/2lbs kessil grow i would love to check that out!
 

711grower

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to kaptain kron. are you stating that your 3 h150 kessils pulled a half a pound dried and manicured ? that would equate to aproximately 2 grams per watt. even experts have a hard time pulling those numbers. I bought a h150 to play around with it. I was quite amazed at how well it kept a large mom thriving for only 37 watts but when I tried it in flower on a small plant I had it seemed to lack the intensity needed to flower...
 
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