Why are they changing color too?

[gargoyle661]

Can you guess what ios wrong with these 2 plants?

plant number 2

I have it in a ebb and flow system. I home built I flood system It floods it for 15 minutes in the morning , in the mid afternoon 3pm and in the evening also. I have been using flora grow about 1 teaspoon for every gallon. I currently change the water once a week . any ideas. I was using pea gravel. But I noticed my roots turned dark and few were white. So I put them in a soil mix.consisting of pea gravel and ez soil with water retainer. Thanks in advance. Lights are flourescent. One is 11 inches tall and the other 5 inches tall

 

[Bwpz]

Looks like Nitrogen mixed with over watering. The one with red tips could be Zinc.

 

[meezy4tw]

looks like you have mites too...

 

[cranker]

That thing has a lot of possible problems....N deficiency, Iron deficiency, ph lockout, spidermites(or white flies), zinc deficiency, ph lockout, overwatering, heat stress....I can't even begin to guess

 

[purpz]

yup, spider mites...looks like you got a lot of bark in your soil? might also be causing your PH to go acidic.

 

[Dizzle Frost]

looks like a everything that could go wrong is going wrong for you

you should take care of the bug prob, then cull those plants and start over

 

[Kingrow1]

Is that a coco ebb and flow medium you got going there, just looks overwatered to me but i only soil grow. Peace

 

[Kingrow1]

Basically i was trying to say if thats a soil grow why is it in an ebb and flow flood and drain system. Peace

 

[gargoyle661]

Im a newby and wanted to give it a try. It started in pea gravel only but I changed it to a pea gravel and soil mix. I have checked really good for bugs and there are none.
I just changed the water and left about 1/2 a galln of the old water and added about 4 gallons in the reservuar ( something like that )

 

[Dizzle Frost]

Im a newby and wanted to give it a try. It started in pea gravel only but I changed it to a pea gravel and soil mix. I have checked really good for bugs and there are none.
I just changed the water and left about 1/2 a galln of the old water and added about 4 gallons in the reservuar ( something like that )

check the back sides of the leaves for lil spots and look for webs...spider mites are small lil bastards

 

[Kingrow1]

Im a newby and wanted to give it a try. It started in pea gravel only but I changed it to a pea gravel and soil mix. I have checked really good for bugs and there are none.
I just changed the water and left about 1/2 a galln of the old water and added about 4 gallons in the reservuar ( something like that )

Then this is your problem as it seems like you are overwtaering your soil. Ill let everyone else comment but just wanted to point this out. Good luck with things dude and remember soil grows do not mix with hydro grows. Peace

 

[PotPower]

I can see you were N deficient and recently gave her a boost of some types of nutes.
It also looks like you were cal + mag deficient with the addition of spider mites!
Your main stem looks pretty bad and the drooping plant is from the roots not getting enough oxygen.
Your PH looks to high also if im reading the meter correctly 7?

 

[stuckonsticky]

Oh man are those the white spots the spider mites leave when they eat the leaf?

 

[gargoyle661]

I can see you were N deficient and recently gave her a boost of some types of nutes.
It also looks like you were cal + mag deficient with the addition of spider mites!
Your main stem looks pretty bad and the drooping plant is from the roots not getting enough oxygen.
Your PH looks to high also if im reading the meter correctly 7?

Wow I searched all online for the best forum and I found it. I think everyone is right. I failed to mention that for the last 2 weeks I was flooding it every 15 minutes on the hour. I just changed the routine on monday. Also I just started giving it flora grow, Epsom salt, and rose bloom.

 

[mastiffkush]

Oh man are those the white spots the spider mites leave when they eat the leaf?

Yea, they also weave small webs if you let them stay long enough..on the back side of the leaves...quick cure is to use warm pH water with antibacterial dial..spray a small amount and BAM no more spider mites.

 

[mastiffkush]

Wow I searched all online for the best forum and I found it. I think everyone is right. I failed to mention that for the last 2 weeks I was flooding it every 15 minutes on the hour. I just changed the routine on monday. Also I just started giving it flora grow, Epsom salt, and rose bloom.

I would also recommend that you leach out your roots or use a clearex solution, you could have locked out nutrients by an in balance of pH or nute burn. Quick solution, then when starting out again use 1/4 strength nutrients and build your way up daily to every other day...make sure that you are calibrating your meter regularly, they can cause improper readings and really get your grow out of whack quickly! Good luck!

 

[gargoyle661]

I would also recommend that you leach out your roots or use a clearex solution, you could have locked out nutrients by an in balance of pH or nute burn? " does this mean I have to run my roots under water ? till all the soil is cleaned off? and its just roots exposed?

 

[mastiffkush]

I would also recommend that you leach out your roots or use a clearex solution, you could have locked out nutrients by an in balance of pH or nute burn? " does this mean I have to run my roots under water ? till all the soil is cleaned off? and its just roots exposed?

No, by leaching you are clearing out any impurities or nutrients from the soil...i do not deal with soil grows, however there are stickies in the soil forums on how to leach properly. It depends on how large your pot is on how much water you use to drench the soil. The clearex solution would be used in a hydro setup, it mitigates the need for leaching...leaching in a hydro setup would consist of draining all water from the resevoir, considering its a DWC and adding fresh pH water, letting it filter through for about 24-48 hours, then adding your nutrients 1/4 strength and building up daily/every other day by topping off the res with nutrient water. You said that your using an ebb and flow with soil? like said above, mixing the hydro with soil is not recommended. Start by researching the stickies on how to water your soil and pay attention to how your plants react to your treatment. Not everyone will have the same results and the enviornment/ strain may differ for you or others. They are weeds and can withstand mistakes, keep a journal with every single detail that you do for your first grow, if you fart in the room write it down...this will help you in the future to avoid simple mistakes that you may have made the first time...Learn from others mistakes, do not try to re invent the wheel! There are many more experienced growers out there on this site that are more than willing to share their secrets and tips with us fortunate enough to learn from them! I hope that his helps you! +rep if you like....

 

[gargoyle661]

Yeah I think I screwed up these 2 plants. I am surprised that they are still alive. At this point it feels like a rescue. i have them in a small pot. about a quart size. Funny reinvent the wheel. I would like to see it give a full turn once lol. Thanks for all the info from all . I have read many threads here . But once they get all techy and stuff I get lost. Im a hands on , never was good at the reading part. Thanks all in advance for your patience and help..

 

[Kingrow1]

Just use the soil next time without the ebb and flow flood and drain thingmabob. Seriously all you need to do with soil is water, wait for the soil to almost dry and water again, thats your grow medium taken care off, every once in a while you add ferts. My soil dries in like 5 days and will not respond well to being watered twice a day more like every 4/5 days max.

I am suprised more people didnt see the obvious problem of using soil in that hydro system but we live and learn.

Yep stay away from all the techy stuff, we all got a motto and thats keep it simple so decide wether your a soil grower or flood and drain hydro guy and use the according equipment. Any more problems hit us up and lets get some good discussions going. Peace