What are the negatives of Atheism?

tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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This was a great thread idea, Luger! I've always wondered how someone could rationally point out negatives of the absence of belief in a deity. Well, you put the opportunity out there and it seems that no one can. Maybe this thread will help dissipate that erroneous notion. When asked, 'what are the negative aspects of religion' we see dozens of pages of real world current and historical examples, but none here. Instead it served to clear up some misconceptions of what atheism really is. I think even the theists here can identify with our stance, after all, they are all atheists and skeptics (they don't believe in the hundreds of gods others believe in, and are skeptical of claims of gnomes, fairies, dragons, etc.) we just take this stance, to which we can all relate, a little further...
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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^^^ funny how you always think you dudes are better and smrter then believers.

Its funny though i bet your dr is a believer, yet you go see em, i bet your wifes gyno is believer, will hinder his diagnosis? True ignorance on you are parts.
 
squarepush3r

squarepush3r

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negative effects of athiem are, smoking cigarettes, wearing rimmed glasses and all black clothing, and generally residing in Europe
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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olylifter420 said:
^^^ funny how you always think you dudes are better and smrter then believers.

Its funny though i bet your dr is a believer, yet you go see em, i bet your wifes gyno is believer, will hinder his diagnosis? True ignorance on you are parts.
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You are an atheist: you don't believe in Wotan and Ganesha

You are a skeptic: you don't find it credible to believe in gnomes or dragons or alien abduction (really not sure on this last one?)

What makes you think that you're better than the folks that do believe in these things? Hypocrite :)

That was my Olywood impression for the evening! Good night, folks...
 
nog

nog

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Heisenberg said:
How can there be inherit negatives to atheism when atheism is just the failure of theism to provide a convincing argument? You can certainly find negative attributes that are often found among atheists, but these are not qualities that derive from or are unique to an atheistic stance. You can find negativity in the misrepresentation of atheism, as I'm sure this thread will demonstrate, but those are simply straw man arguments. You can say atheism prevents you from living in an afterlife paradise, but that is only so if religion is true. I am open to the idea that atheism could have negative aspects and am interested in having them pointed out, but I am guessing this thread will produce nothing but the mistaken opinions I just outlined.
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well i reckon its just THEISM???
 
nog

nog

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squarepush3r said:
negative effects of athiem are, smoking cigarettes, wearing rimmed glasses and all black clothing, and generally residing in Europe
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WTF is that supposed to mean? God didnt reach the usa to more than 1000 years after Europe. maybe its guys stuck up in prayer towers badley dressed in ill fitting, loud Checked clothing,fornicating and asking mugs to send them money whilst pretending to be Godly, if the USA is so fucking godly how come it has the biggest porno industry in the world???
 
sen.c

sen.c

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maybe its guys stuck up in prayer towers badley dressed in ill fitting, loud Checked clothing,fornicating and asking mugs to send them money whilst pretending to be Godly
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Sounds like they are just wolves in sheeps clothing taking advantage of good hearted people to me, you make the statement as if to asert that this is what christians do and it is not. They are just
men who figured out if they put on a false front they can make millions, it doesn't make them christians just because they pretend to be.

if the USA is so fucking godly how come it has the biggest porno industry in the world
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that, porn and sexuality for that matter has been way more openly accepted in Europe and outlying countries for a long time and plays on tv. Just because they have the AVN awards here and the valley is the hub for adult films in the US doesn't really have anything to with acceptance on the broad scale.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Hepheastus420 said:
So do atheists not believe in anything? Not even science? Or is it just you follow the facts.
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The answer to that will be different for every person you ask. You can't infer what atheists believe, since the position of atheism tells you precisely one thing and one thing only about a person, which is what they don't believe.

BTW someone who doesn't believe passionately about anything is called a nihilist.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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So for you atheists that follow science then we can tell you negative things that come from that. For example nuclear weapons.


Why do you guys think there is such a huge link between atheism and suicide?
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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The answer to that will be different for every person you ask.
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you see, that is the hypocrisy i speak of... you all vouch for yourselves by saying, "the answer will be different for every person you ask" is the same thing about people who believe, yet you all continue to associate every believer with these retarded opinions about religion...

true hypocrites and if you all cant see that in yourselves, i dont know what to say for you
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Hepheastus420 said:
So for you atheists that follow science then we can tell you negative things that come from that. For example nuclear weapons.
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Nuclear weapons could arguably be said to have had a positive effect as well as their negative ones. Nuclear theory offers us an option for sustained energy production beyond our fossil fuels. But your point is not lost, science can be used for evil. In fact, it can be used for great malevolent evil of the most cold hearted nature. But is this an evil that is inherit to science? Does the philosophy of science foster and encourage this evil? Does science have built in mechanism that discourage critical thought in relation to this evil? Does science ever inspire an otherwise good person to perform evil acts? In the context of religion, the answer to all these questions is yes.


Why do you guys think there is such a huge link between atheism and suicide?
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I don't think anyone has established this link between suicide and atheism. I welcome you to post concise objective studies demonstrating this link. In any case, if there is a link, could it be due to the discrimination and intolerance of atheists by religious people? Discrimination seems to be quite clearly a factor in the homosexuality suicide link.
 
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