Club 600

[wally nutter]

good buds as always.

fun car update'

just finished installing a full race exhaust. catless. shitsss baaaad.


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[hornedfrog2000]

Lollipoping would fix this problem and encourage your upper buds to get bigger

That's what I do.

Can you explain how perpetual gardening uses more soil as opposed to single crop gardening?
How did you fit 25 bushes in the same area as 25 cola plants? did you just veg the cola plants a little longer to take up that extra space? just wondering.

I never said that it uses more soil. Any large op should use water rather than soil. What do you do with 100 liters of soil every 2 months? I know I just poor water down the drain. I have enough trimmings and other bs to dispose of that soil is just another hassle I don't want to deal with.

 

[whodatnation]

Some peeps grow big plants because plant numbers are a factor to consider, but less plants to care for can make things simpler.
of course sog ftw, any wasted space is not good, I try to cover every square inch with plant matter and then some.

 

[Gopedxr]

So basically with my soil my step dad is saying i should not re use it. Even though its a killer mix fox farm ocean forest and happy frog. Says you always wanna start with fresh soil. But i mean the plants that were in these 20 gallon pots they were not bushes by any means. Like 3 feet.

Yielded like a ounce or two each. They were some not so killer clones apparently from a dispensery thats supposed to have good stuff. The buds were airy. But very stticky not big fat tight buds for me yet. I am really hoping for those on my apricot.

 

[whodatnation]

That's what I do.



I never said that it uses more soil. Any large op should use water rather than soil. What do you do with 100 liters of soil every 2 months? I know I just poor water down the drain. I have enough trimmings and other bs to dispose of that soil is just another hassle I don't want to deal with.

oops I thought I read that in one of the above posts, my bad.
I would recycle it a few times by adding fresh guanos, casting exc and cooking it. When desposal comes around I just add it to the veggie garden/compost pile, I also add my stem and stalks and fan leafs.

 

[Gopedxr]

That pic was a few weeks ago this is how she looks now. Yea if thats the case i am gona really need help with cooking the soil. Were really getting into the serious part now! haha

What do you guys think i hope she yields a lot of sticky tight tight buds. I hate airy leafy buds trimminnggg ughhh!!!

 

[hornedfrog2000]

That pic was a few weeks ago this is how she looks now. Yea if thats the case i am gona really need help with cooking the soil. Were really getting into the serious part now! haha

What do you guys think i hope she yields a lot of sticky tight tight buds. I hate airy leafy buds trimminnggg ughhh!!!

I know from experience just a few more hours of direct sunlight can have a huge impact on yield.

 

[whodatnation]

She looks good Gopedxr

 

[ghb]

i have little to no exp when it comes to outdoor, the only o/d stuff i have seen has always been very airy and leafy but what do you expect for free light sources, geeez.

only kidding by the way i'm jealous cos my outdoor sucks balls.

whodat, i have noticed you have had a go at hydro before, why weren't you fully converted? i have only done one soil plant before, it was great quality but i nearly got a hernia trying ot lift the pot out of my tent, heavy shit.

coco is right up my street, to anybody who hasn't tried it i strongly recommend you do. so simple even a pothead could do it

 

[whodatnation]

i have little to no exp when it comes to outdoor, the only o/d stuff i have seen has always been very airy and leafy but what do you expect for free light sources, geeez.

only kidding by the way i'm jealous cos my outdoor sucks balls.

haha you got me for a second lol

whodat, i have noticed you have had a go at hydro before, why weren't you fully converted? i have only done one soil plant before, it was great quality but i nearly got a hernia trying ot lift the pot out of my tent, heavy shit.

coco is right up my street, to anybody who hasn't tried it i strongly recommend you do. so simple even a pothead could do it

Well I did convert my main room from 100% organic soil to 100% hydro. I still have another flower room thats 100% organic soil. Iv been growing in soil for 5 or so years (growing on and off for 8 years.) Getting good yields too, recently pulled 2 lbs of primo from a 1k hps in soil. I really like hydro because veg time is almost nonexistent unless you are growing biggens in that case Iv veged in hydro for 3-4 weeks.

Iv yet to try coco, I hear its the bees knees.

 

[ghb]

get with it man, half the 600 is rolling with coco!!.

2lb from a 1k is pretty dam near 1gpw so you get props for that. that co2 setup with coco would be pwning man, get with it

 

[Shwagbag]

get with it man, half the 600 is rolling with coco!!.

2lb from a 1k is pretty dam near 1gpw so you get props for that. that co2 setup with coco would be pwning man, get with it

What ph of nutrient solution do you use in the coco? I have some and haven't really played with it yet. How is it for clones?

 

[ghb]

by clones do you mean for making clones or planting rooted clones?.

i clone using root riots so i don't know what it's like for taking clones because i haven't tried it. when it comes to growth rate it is pretty scary, if i put rooted clones in 0.5l pots they will have atleast doubled in size within 7 days, guaranteed

 

[whodatnation]

get with it man, half the 600 is rolling with coco!!.

2lb from a 1k is pretty dam near 1gpw so you get props for that. that co2 setup with coco would be pwning man, get with it

whats the other half doing?

 

[whodatnation]

by clones do you mean for making clones or planting rooted clones?.

i clone using root riots so i don't know what it's like for taking clones because i haven't tried it. when it comes to growth rate it is pretty scary, if i put rooted clones in 0.5l pots they will have atleast doubled in size within 7 days, guaranteed

does coco have specific ph needs, I think is what he was asking?

 

[ghb]

growing in a mixture of soil or hydro and asking questions why they are having problems lol.............

edit, ah i see i missed the question.

i ph to 5.8 to 6.2 but i don't think it matters a great deal, ask donny he just mixes without e.c and ph pens(i think)and get great results the feeds contain great ph buffers

 

[whodatnation]

growing in a mixture of soil or hydro and asking questions why they are having problems lol.............

edit, ah i see i missed the question.

i ph to 5.8 to 6.2 but i don't think it matters a great deal, ask donny he just mixes without e.c and ph pens(i think)and get great results the feeds contain great ph buffers

Im veery satisfied with rdwc, have you tried it?
Having problems is usually 99% grower error, people have issues in coco too.

 

[ghb]

not tried dwc before, i know it leaves coco in the shade with growth rates though, i just like the simplicty of the coco.

i see where this might be going, i might have made it seem like coco is the only way to grow, maybe because to me it is, each to thier own however, i know for a fact that your shit is top shelf, looks it anyway.


edit, i have had problems in coco too, mixing nutes and not leaving them to stand can cause some strange lockout issues

 

[jigfresh]

good buds as always.

fun car update'

just finished installing a full race exhaust. catless. shitsss baaaad.


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Lol wally... I thought you cared about the environment. I guess not when it comes to fun fast things. I bet it's cool, but not very nice to the birds and such.

And to ghb... I am with you that for me big plants are a waste of time and energy... but, people who have shit dialed in can grow some fat fucking plants that one would need 50 plants per monster to get their yeilds. I don't think I'll ever be at that level, or type of setup so I will always grow little ones. But yeah, it can be done efficiently.

Also to reiterate what the guys are saying perpetual takes SOOOO much work, compared to reloading each time. Way too much work for me. I like resetting my mind as well. Finish this grow. Start another. Simple. Real Simple. Not trying to talk you out of it... it's worth the work if you do it well... but headaches are amplified with perpetual.

 

[bassman999]

I think the single cola SOG style is ideal, because the less time you're spending trimming the more time you have to do stuff you really want to. Trimming one big cola is a lot easier than trimming 50 smaller buds.

I agree, I hate trimming!!
I am gonna learn to do the main cola thing and say bye bye to all those little waste of time scraggly budz....