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[DST]

It looks like its working in the pics lol. Thing is a beast. Is it supporting the bud weight efficiently? Hard part is probably trying to spread it out to keep the canopy open because once they're through they're not coming back out with swollen ass buds hahah. From what I can see in the pics it looks glorious, just like Blue.

The screen has been brilliant and this will def be my technique as much as I can possibly do it. I have 6 other plants in 2 trays with similar netting arrangement.

I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't... I do think that it helps get more light to more parts of the plant, though, if flattened correctly. Maybe that's what I was trying to say before. God dammit I'm stoned.

I don't think it works on the same principal either. The plant there looks like a normal plant but with growth all to one side, which was the aim, lol. But apical dominance spread is not in effect me tink...lets call it ADS (Brother Doob, quick Trademark it for the 6double, lol)

 

[jigfresh]

Yo D... I have so many thoughts on Vertical scrogs, I would love to offer some imput... maybe it's because I just woke up, but I have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Obviously you are making sense as bobo and shwag get it. I guess the little bit I can offer is that a V scrog definitely doesn't work in near the same way as a horizontal with the spreading of the canopy... I've found it to be more of a way to train a plant in a certain shape to fit your grow box. How's that for worthless information, lol.

Happy football day peeps!!!

EDIT: lol... there's a mouse in the house today, and so the cats are going apeshit. It's really funny with all of them huddled around the furniture the mouse is behind. I'm thinking the mouse is a bit freaked out with 6 sets of eyes peering at him longingly. Carry on.

 

[DoobieBrother]

I believe ADS™ is dependent on the location/angle of the auxins on the plant in relation to the light source.
But the lack of horizontal positioning for the hormones to collect in the horizontal limbs that would signal that part of the plant to initiate ADS™ and cause all bud sites to become kolas won't be able to happen since the limbs are oriented vertically.

What I see your vertical scrog doing is making sure the bud sites get maximum light.
But the buds will have the typical growth patterns as a normally grown plant.
It should have bigger & denser buds than if left alone, but it won't have the extra kolas that growing horizontally would force on it.
Unless, as suggested, you super crop.
But, I'm with jig: I just opened my eyes, and I'm waking & baking

 

[whodatnation]

hahah up is down for sure.

Im leaning twords your initial thought D,,, that a vertical screen is not as effective as a horizontal screen when it comes to distributing auxins evenly throughout the entire plant... I do think a screen is better than no screen though it involves more work and is less convinent when it comes to moving plants around. So my thought is when doing a vertical screen, you should still attempt to expose as many bud sights to good light by training, which should increase the yield. I did have a vertical monster screen at one point but it was decimated by spider mites and had to be chopped at week 3 or so.
With all this screen talk maybe I should post a pic of that horizontal 360 screen...

 

[duchieman]

Hey guys. I hope you don't mind me posting these vids today. I have over 80GB of music which on top of my own collection, is made up of a pretty intact DJ library from when I dabbled in that. Anyway, I'm scouring through them today and finding some things I've forgotten about that I just want to share. It's actually pretty hard to pick just a few. Anyway, I love Stevie and though I'm not a huge Micheal fan I do dig this one. I also must say, that I really dig it when you guys put up your stuff too. If it wasn't for that I'd probably be aging quicker than I am, if you catch my drift.

[video=youtube;b0S4SiLxt1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0S4SiLxt1s[/video]


[video=youtube;bUYD13W-oWs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUYD13W-oWs[/video]

 

[DST]

Awesome guys, Prof Doob, I agree my man. MY thinking exactly, but perhaps in not such an eloquant way, lol, So guys I think we can all agree, a screen on verticals is for training and light convenience. Now what if I make my room zero gravity? mwahahahahahaha

 

[DST]

Post away duchieman, Stevei Wonder always reminds me of a friend of mine who parents named him after the man. I don't see him anymore though due to his heroin problems....and I don't mean that in anyway towards you post, lol.

 

[DoobieBrother]

Awesome guys, Prof Doob, I agree my man. MY thinking exactly, but perhaps in not such an eloquant way, lol, So guys I think we can all agree, a screen on verticals is for training and light convenience. Now what if I make my room zero gravity? mwahahahahahaha

Technically, you could make a more circular vertical screen and train the branches to grow horizontally (or just past horizontal to make sure the hormones stay where they need to in the branches to signal ADS&#8482.

Zero-G cannabis would be a sight to see!
I've heard it does strange things to some plants.
Damn! Now I have more googling to do!
... zero-g plants...
... zero-g cannabis...
... zero-g horticulture...

 

[duchieman]

Technically, you could make a more circular vertical screen and train the branches to grow horizontally (or just past horizontal to make sure the hormones stay where they need to in the branches to signal ADS&#8482.

Zero-G cannabis would be a sight to see!
I've heard it does strange things to some plants.
Damn! Now I have more googling to do!
... zero-g plants...
... zero-g cannabis...
... zero-g horticulture...

I just got back form there. You guys got me all curious about auxin's and apical dominance. Now I'm tired. I'ma gonna go lie down.

DST, not seeing your friend for that reason is a great loss for him and that's what that shit does. I bet he's lost many good and close people.

 

[DoobieBrother]

Will check it oot. EDIT: DO I need to become a member of yahoo thingymajig to watch?

*Missed this from earlier:
you'll need yahoo Messenger installed and use a yahoo mail account to log in.

I'm looking into free webcam hosting alternatives, but for now I'm stuck with Messenger and the like.

 

[whodatnation]

Got pics coming later "peace"

[video=youtube;YSUDmko1DyY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSUDmko1DyY[/video]

 

[DoobieBrother]

Hey guys. I hope you don't mind me posting these vids today. I have over 80GB of music which on top of my own collection, is made up of a pretty intact DJ library from when I dabbled in that. Anyway, I'm scouring through them today and finding some things I've forgotten about that I just want to share. It's actually pretty hard to pick just a few. Anyway, I love Stevie and though I'm not a huge Micheal fan I do dig this one. I also must say, that I really dig it when you guys put up your stuff too. If it wasn't for that I'd probably be aging quicker than I am, if you catch my drift.

[video=youtube;b0S4SiLxt1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0S4SiLxt1s[/video]


[video=youtube;bUYD13W-oWs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUYD13W-oWs[/video]

Have to add these:
[video=youtube;YFK6H_CcuX8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK6H_CcuX8[/video]
[video=youtube;lOfZLb33uCg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg[/video]

 

[jigfresh]

Got pics coming later "peace"

Looking pretty awesome in there whodat. Are you ever going to put some plants in a topsy turvy and grow them from the top?

Too funny when you get to the end of the vid, 4 of the 5 suggestions are my vids. Good company. Looking forward to the pics.

 

[DoobieBrother]

Looking pretty awesome in there whodat. Are you ever going to put some plants in a topsy turvy and grow them from the top?

Too funny when you get to the end of the vid, 4 of the 5 suggestions are my vids. Good company. Looking forward to the pics.

I was about to ask him that!
I took time to doodle it out:

*the "Hamster Chroni-Cage 5000"™ 360-HSCROG® method
(**hamster-wheel powered waterpump not included)

 

[DST]

It's been posted before Doob...somewhere in here, lol. But check out Omega Grow systems, that's what they basically have^^^^

 

[whodatnation]

Doob, Iv hat that picture in my head for a while but havent taken the initiative to do it. All I would need to do is ad the 2 tubes above my existing system to hold a total of 4 more plants. It would most definitely work imo!

Heres somewhat of a mega update for yall off to paste it to my journal lol

Had to raise my lights above the AK (expected) and my scrubber has been mounted on the cealing and was in the way so I somehow managed to fit it in the middle of the room. It was pounding my ladies with rough winds so I had to add the 8 inch galvanized ducting to smooth things out. Its working out great actually lol the 745 cfm fan picks all the air that settles on the bottom of the room and throws it back up and twords the lights and its not destoying my plants with wind.

Heres a buch of free stuff I got at the hydro shop I frequent score!
Brand new 1k digilux hps and a brand new 600 digilux mh
a 3 bag set of "all mesh filter bags" 3 bag set to fit a 5 gal bucket, has a 25, 73, and 220 Iv always wanted to try this out!
Got 1 pint each GH floura duo a & b with this stuff called rapid start. Not sure if Im gonna use this anytime soon. The vendor seemed like a prick to be honest.
Something I will try soon is this "X nutrients" Got a gallon each of their bloom and micro and also got 1 liter each of their grow and amino blast. I will be running this stuff really soon in the bloom room on a new crop. More space bomb lol
Also got a qt of "mighty wash" from a company called "that stuff" <--- really? Anywho its 99.8335% water lol but supposedly the water molecules are tuned with like hundreds of different frequencies :-/ idk lol but I used is last night just to mix up my line of preventative measures against mites,, cant sleep on those mofos!
I also lol got a 4oz bottle of this stuff "armada" from "overgrow organics" Its a colorado based company and the list of ingrediens caught my eye REALLY quick!
Lets see if anyone recognises this lol
Destroys and prevents~
spider mites
powdery mildew
gnats
whiteflies
thrips
aphids
black mold
and any other pests / molds...
ALL ORGANIC.
Any guesses so far?

Lets see what's in it shall we
Cinnamon, Clove, Thyme, and Peppermint Organic Essential Oils... the list goes on. Pretty much dices spray eh? Well I already know this stuff works haha! but at $60 a gallon I think I'll continue to make my own for pennies thank you very much! It does smell wonderful though

edit: cant forget the t shirt! lol
On to the plants eh!

Sour D

Did a good bit of trimming under the AKs and also added a small but powerful fan under the canopy to get fresh air in there.

I think that about covers it m8ts

 

[Heads Up]

I agree with doobie. Taking the top of the plant and bending it horizontally redistributes the auxins and signals the plant to find a new terminal leader or whatever you want to call the main cola. I agree that a vertical scrog exposes your buds to the best lighting possible for that method of growing but the plant itself is indeed growing one terminal leader. That's my two cents on the issue....now for my first day of 12/12 with my first scrog attempt. The girls are six weeks old, I hope they stretch a bit I need to fill in some screen. With the increase in lumens I can see in one day the colombian gold likes the extra light.

Here ya' go wally nutter, just for you, the buddhas together.

 

[DoobieBrother]

It's been posted before Doob...somewhere in here, lol. But check out Omega Grow systems, that's what they basically have^^^^

Popped over to their website: that is slicker than snot on a hot, greasy door knob

 

[jigfresh]

Looks real good to me Heads up. I think they should fill in the screen perfectly. It's funny hoping for stretch huh.

 

[Heads Up]

With this grow I have another new annoyance, the claw. It seems to be affecting my two chocolopes only. I used 'the google' to start my research as to what causes the claw.

Seems like another slow sunday night on the six hundred, let's here what the six has to say on what causes the claw. Guesses off the top of your head? Mine was overwatering but watering once every three days and using smart pots doesn't seem to add up to the cause of the claw.

Here are some pics of a friends grow. Colombian gold, super skunk and tangerine dream, big lights. In the tent, the purple is killing fields with a morning glory in the middle and a kali mist on the left. The kali mist seems to be slow in bud development.

Edit. In the tent is a six tube t-5 with a combination of spectrums. There are two red actinics giving off light at 680nm...I think that's the spectrum. He has some purples for more red, two 6500's for blue light and two 4100, I think.