Hey stoney and irish, most LED panels ive seen are rated to last about 50,000ish hours. Any thoughts on the accuracy of these statements?
Also like HPS would the bulb start to become less efficient with age and output less light?
Just curious if you have any experience, or knowledge with this
never had the long enugh.lol. 50,000 is a very long time.lol. ive read they will dim down by that time but nothing like HID
View attachment 1779311View attachment 1779310do you know why my plants yellowing around bud sites and how to fix it?
looks like a iron def to me! whats ur PH run off? make sure its in range! folair spraying with seaweed should help.. dont ask how much to mix because all brands are different i can answer that one but the bottle should say? you could bump the lights up a bit if it makes you feel safer but that dosent look like what ive seen looks just like zinc or off gassing from PVC. make sure ur PH in good?
I haven't owned mine long enough to say for sure on the 50K but i believe it. I bet they would even exceed that time.
and yes even diodes slowly lose effecncy and brightness over time. it's at a much slower rate than HID's and CFL's but they do degrade over time.
that looks just like the issue i was having.... give them more nutes. don't go overboard but increase them a little. I ended up switching to an all purpose 20-20-20 nute. I'm not saying that you should bo this, I'm sure more P and K would help just fine and more bloom nutes could fix your problem.
as Irish has said many times, these ligts are no joke and they really work the plants hard!!! they suck all the juice right out of them!!! try keeping them fed more.
how far away are your lights?
well said
LED output will degrade over time as well, but the 50,000 hr rating most companies use is a 30% benchmark for loss of output. That's why they recommend that as the lifespan of the lights. The lights should last well past that point, just with diminishing returns. After 50,000 hrs they'd still probably make really good veg lights, just might not want to flower with them. This doesn't really matter though as 50,000 hrs is about 11.5 yrs of 12/12 so long before that point there will probably be much better flowering lights and you'll have demoted any current panel to veg only anyways.
well said, thanks for the info
yes that the recipe irish gave me tell me exactly what to do please should i go from 2/3 cups to 1 cup on the guanos and instead of 5 teaspoons kelp ,maybe 7 1/2?
remember thats not a recipe i made that a organic ones that popular. i just get made doc dude and dump a little here and their and just make my own teas. if it were me i would be mixing some seaweed always! and some Earth Juice micro blast. Humic acid should always help things get taken better. the key is always knowing ur PH run off is in range. almost all issues are from bad PH
man that's a tough call for me.... I'm a bit out of element with the organic tea's. lets wait for Irish on this one. It's his recipe, He'll know what to modify at what amount.... sorry I can't help ya.
na not my recipe, just a tea brew that many use and he was looking for one.. all my teas are in my head i dont really measure just go by eye
Molasses is a great source of K as well as other micros
yes it is! seaweed is the best though
something to note irish i checked on my agent orange which is under a blackstar and single kessil. The blackstar side is producing more trichs, i have two theories as to why, theory one is the blackstar is more intense than a single kessil is and has a higher saturation point, i have a hard time believing this because of the technology kessil uses to project their light. Im more inclined to believe that the blackstar has a better spectrum for trichome production, either way this is disapointing to me as i dont really want another blackstar and was going to go kessil but now im not so sure anymore not real happy about the trichome production. Its not abnormally low or anything quite to the contrary its really damn frosty just not as frosty as the other side -_-. Gonna be lookin real hard at these spectras now if im going to buy any more panels for the reason that i know they will yeild much more than my BS, hopefully with the same trichome production. What a dissapointment, nug density feels the same from one side to the other also the kessil sides nugs are just as big as the other sides. so no loss in yeild per say in the saturation area. Odd, annoyingly odd.... time to start saving some money for new lights to test. Im still very satisfied with the results i got from my kessil im just down because i see so many more trichs on the other side.
damn bro that sucks! i am all about quality and thats always my main goal... it has nothing to do with the power bro, its the spectrum all the way that will make frosted buds. at the end i dont think you will get any less frost from the spectras because those things frost up plants for sure and the 2011 ive seen some frost. at the end if you needed a light right now i would go BS because quality is everything. i would hold off if you could until i test out these brand new spectras! trust me bro if i get frost in these 100F+ temps you will be more then good on the frost!..lol. i am about to flower soon so we can see whats up? i know the 2010's gave me crazy frosted dank so i just need to varafiy the 2011.. from the pics ive seen i am pretty happy about frost with them its just the heat is what has me worried heat just kills frost!
thanks for sharing that info with us!
