Plants have no smell from clones to jars.

[lxyzeroomer]

Past year ive been gardening,medium coconut fiber,rockwool,ez-cloner, nutes florogro and flora bloom, olivias, 1000 watt hps , 3 4bulb t 5 flouresents, 400 watt metal halide, exhaust fan, fans, neem oil carbon filter (but not needed)?are my basic tools ,my plants do not smell ,you can be in the room 72 days into flowering no smell trimming,curing no smell, smoking very little taste, coated in milky and amber trichs pinch a bud its sticky and smells good but very faint,not as potent as i expected but really have nothing else around to compare too. ive changed everything but my water.im using well water ,,ppm of water out of tap is roughly 330tds? sulfur smell is prevelant!!!! is the tds of my water mainly the sulfur and or iron or something else in my water cancelling out the smell of my harvest??? also have a hell of a time cloning they just wilt and die or just stay in the ez-cloner forever i keep trying but some months i cant get any clones to root some months i do,when i do get clones and veg and bud them no smell ,curing no smell, have 4 different varieties growing and curing and none of them have a smell nothing at all....... rooms stay constant 55 perecnt humidity temp 78 degrees, clones ph at 5.9 veg at 6.3 and flowering at 6.5 ezcloner water at 78 to 80 and have adjusted it many temps to try and fix ,with no luck but ive rooted out everything but the well water,just bought a reverse osmois filter system,HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SIMILAR SITUATION AND WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM AND HOW DID YOU FIX IT ,,,NEED HELP need to harvest monthly

 

[Duder1984]

I know exactly what youre talking about mate. I am experiencing the same thing and using almost identical setup. I'm using ebb and flow with remote reservoir in a sealed grow container that has a constant negative airflow 24/7 through an activated carbon filter.

the flowers get you high, in fact extremely high i might add, but almost no taste or special kick to it. I believe I have limited the possible causes down to two components:

A) It is possible that the exhaust and filtering technology that we are using is so effective that the actual smell that our flowers should have is trapped in the activated carbon filter having been completely sucked out of the plant in a constant negative air pressure environment.

B) Our nutrient solutions and choice of medium are to blame. I actually believe this is more likely the "problem" depending upon how you look at it. I would be interested to see what people using soil mediums and organic mixtures have so say about the "taste" of their end product.

Once fact is certain, you CAN enhance the taste of your buds by use of various extracts and sugars. Basically the idea is that if u want a cherry tasting bud, you soak the roots of the soon to be pruned harvest in a mixture of cherry extract and water. once they have soaked for a couple hours and have drawn up as much moisture as they are going to take, clip them and trim, upside down to cure. I would recommend looking up a more detailed article on the process, that is just a brief description...but it definitely hints to the validity in your nutrients and soil having strong influence of the taste or smell.

 

[Duder1984]

clones ph at 5.9 veg at 6.3 and flowering at 6.5

ok i just noticed this...and wow... ok all that hot air for nothing but this is a significant finding.

if you are using soiless medium... you are using the wrong pH man!! you should keep your pH at 5.6-5.8 at all times, look at this chart for more clarification... you have been using pH levels for soil mediums, effectively locking out a vast majority of the base nutrients in your soil-less medium. you are using a flood and drain set-up with rockwoold and coco-coir right? That is hydroponics man, adjust your reservoir pH appropriately

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[potpimp]

I also might add that you need to pay close attention to the phasing of the moon in order to give your clones the best chance of taking root, this will take a lot of mystery out of the inconsistencies you are seeing.

What phase is best for taking clones?

 

[Springtucky]

I don't think it helps that the water has a sulfur smell. What strain? How did you acquire your mom? Have you tried some new strains? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^did he say soak your roots? I've never heard that before.

 

[lxyzeroomer]

im using some sugars citrus with no luck...

 

[lxyzeroomer]

blueberry,hindu kush,ak-47,crystal ,whit widow and ice mothers are all from seed aquired from different seed companies...

 

[lxyzeroomer]

im using some sugars citrus with no luck...

also have switched nutes a number of times thinking that was the problem with no results still no smell nothing !!!

 

[Springtucky]

im using some sugars citrus with no luck...

unless using bennies I don't see how this will help in your setup...in hydro I've found that products like sweet and carboload can put a spin in the aroma (I use Great White for bennies) it's not going to put something there that wasn't there to start. They don't have a slight musky smell on the stems or anything in veg either? Its either (a) the strain (or the phenotype that you possess is just lacking in terpenes etc) (b) your water is screwed and you need a RO system to clean it up (being on a well system you may need a pressure booster too).

 

[Springtucky]

blueberry,hindu kush,ak-47,crystal ,whit widow and ice mothers are all from seed aquired from different seed companies...

I was really hoping you didn't say that bro. Get some more experienced advice in here....bump the thread a few times tomorrow too. I think it's your water.

 

[Duder1984]

What phase is best for taking clones?

I don't use clones so I can't really say which phase is best for them but I can explain the phases and how they affect the plant.

Basically every full moon the moon switches phases to waning. During the waning period it is said that nutrients are drawn out of the root system and upward into the plant structure. Every New Moon the phase switches to waxing. During the waxing period nutrients are drawn back down into the bottom of the plant, into the roots.

If I were going to conduct a test to find out which period is best for rooting clones: I would take cutlings a few days before each lunar phase change (Full, New) This allows them to recover from shock and take full advantage of either phase's effects on the plant.

 

[Duder1984]

Lxy I did a little more research into this and from what I am gathering, the curing process is one of the most important steps for developing taste/smell.

What curing process are you using?

 

[Springtucky]

Lxy I did a little more research into this and from what I am gathering, the curing process is one of the most important steps for developing taste/smell.

What curing process are you using?

I wanted to ask same thing because I ran into similar problems first few harvests, but if there's no smell while it's growing and when it's cut (while he's trimming) then the cure isn't about to put something there that isn't there to begin with.

 

[Duder1984]

I don't know about that. He is using a carbon filter and negative air pressure in his grow...so while he is growing the smell is literally being sucked off the plant into the filter where it never leaves. If he continues to use a carbon filter and negative air pressure during curing process it will eventually suck all the smell (which is also taste) out of the plant matter. Maybe using the mason jars method is worth a try, but if he's already doing that then yea I'm wrong.

 

[Springtucky]

I don't know about that. He is using a carbon filter and negative air pressure in his grow...so while he is growing the smell is literally being sucked off the plant into the filter where it never leaves. If he continues to use a carbon filter and negative air pressure during curing process it will eventually suck all the smell (which is also taste) out of the plant matter. Maybe using the mason jars method is worth a try, but if he's already doing that then yea I'm wrong.

No. Nobody, including myself would use a carbon filter. What happens when the person has the carbon filter outside of the grow area sucking air out and pushing it through the filter? There is nothing to indicate that his air pressure is negative, it could be more passive if not sealed because this would draw air into the room. My exhaust air is clean and my buds coming out of the jars are loud. I just can't see sucking the taste out of nuggs.

 

[suTraGrow]

I know exactly what youre talking about mate. I am experiencing the same thing and using almost identical setup. I'm using ebb and flow with remote reservoir in a sealed grow container that has a constant negative airflow 24/7 through an activated carbon filter.

the flowers get you high, in fact extremely high i might add, but almost no taste or special kick to it. I believe I have limited the possible causes down to two components:

A) It is possible that the exhaust and filtering technology that we are using is so effective that the actual smell that our flowers should have is trapped in the activated carbon filter having been completely sucked out of the plant in a constant negative air pressure environment.

B) Our nutrient solutions and choice of medium are to blame. I actually believe this is more likely the "problem" depending upon how you look at it. I would be interested to see what people using soil mediums and organic mixtures have so say about the "taste" of their end product.

Once fact is certain, you CAN enhance the taste of your buds by use of various extracts and sugars. Basically the idea is that if u want a cherry tasting bud, you soak the roots of the soon to be pruned harvest in a mixture of cherry extract and water. once they have soaked for a couple hours and have drawn up as much moisture as they are going to take, clip them and trim, upside down to cure. I would recommend looking up a more detailed article on the process, that is just a brief description...but it definitely hints to the validity in your nutrients and soil having strong influence of the taste or smell.

AHHH HAHAHAHA. Omfg!!!!! thank you bro i needed that after today +rep for you.

Seriously hahahahaha some of the funniest shit i have EVER! read on here.

 

[suTraGrow]

I just had to bump this thread from last night.
Some over whelming knowledge on here i think EVERYBODY should consider when growing

 

[lxyzeroomer]

i dry my buds for about 10 days then put in ball jars and burp everynight till the stem breaks ,carbon filter was purchased at the start but never needed it its not being used...

 

[Springtucky]

Hook up your RO system and get some Cal/Mag supplement.

 

[Bonzi Lighthouse]

i dry my buds for about 10 days then put in ball jars and burp everynight till the stem breaks ,carbon filter was purchased at the start but never needed it its not being used...

There are some who think happy healthy plants do not stink.

10 days is way too long to dry, you're missing the cure, thats why you do not have the aroma you desire, don't change how you grow change how you dry and cure.