airy wispy buds everytime!!!!?

phenix white

phenix white

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ok so everytime i harvest i get about 2-3 ozs. but my buds are always weird airy wispy..i jus dont like them at all it looks nothening like when i buy from sumone. or if i get supersilver haze it dont turn out at all like what i bought commercially.i almost wanna throw everything out and jus stick to buying good bud...i jus dont understand it at all. temperture is controlled, soil organic grow, 150 watt hps. and a alot of cfl lighting..i have grown Seeds all from the attitude. northern lights,motovation,the chronic,bluehell, ect.. i jus do not want this wispey weird airy bud thing anymore. and everyplant smeels and taste the same.. like a danky.smooth taste bland , no fruit no skunk no loved tastes or smells..im reall upset and need the proper and right advice. my space is 3x3 wide and about 5 ft tall..organic grow in soil. 5 gal buckets, earth juice, alaska fih,mollasess, superthive. ect..
 
phenix white

phenix white

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i have i jus harvested BlueHell from Medical Seeds outa the Attitude its almost 100 percent indica,..i have 2 more seeds pineapple exp and warlock. i will get a 400watter!
 
canefan

canefan

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phenix white said:
i have i jus harvested BlueHell from Medical Seeds outa the Attitude its almost 100 percent indica,..i have 2 more seeds pineapple exp and warlock. i will get a 400watter!
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Before you buy the 400, really compare the differences between the 400 and the 600 watt, I mean really compare at the lumen difference and the cost difference. You pointed out you hate airy buds, if so then more light (of course genetics) equals more dense buds. For the cost difference and the light difference you will be much happier with the results.
 
stlmatt

stlmatt

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More light, more nutes and puring the plants so you have a nice even canopy......that way all the buds will get an even amount of good strong light.......this will produce those dense tight nugs your looking for. I would move up to a 400w or 600w air cooled unit, make sure you can exhaust the heat from the light so you can keep it closer to the canopy top.

Stlmatt
 
Banditt

Banditt

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Yeah when I read the title first thing that came to mind was not enough light. Than I read your post and seen you have a 150w lamp. Lighting makes a big difference in how dense your buds come out. Genetics plays a big role too. But most likely your issue is light. Go >= 600w, you'll be happy.
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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The problem is you are growing a 5 foot tall plant with little light. If your plants are 5 feet tall even a single 1000w lamp would not be sufficient to give you dense nugs. Start flowering when theya re about 12-14" tall next run, and they'll not stretch out over such a large area and pack nice and tightly.............
 
Bueno Time

Bueno Time

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Yea Id say go with a 600 its almost twice the light output of a 400 for 1.5x the power usage and not much more cost. I think the 600 gets the most lumens per watt ratio so it is most efficent of bulbs (even greater output per watt than a 1000w). Im running my 150 right now since I cant go bigger where Im at right now but I have ran 400s before and they are pretty nice but I would really like to use a 600 or 1000 next time I can go bigger again.

Go with a 600 you will be stoked I guarantee it.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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i love all of these people saying get a 600 watter when the first thing that you should be asking is what size grow does dude have?? of course, a 600 is better than a 400 watter, but not if he has a 2x 2 or so space and not much in the way of air intake / exchange, cuz then the plus that you'd get from the light would be lost, and more, to the added heat and associated problems that come along with it, and you'd end up having more problems and less yield over a smaller 400 watter, that is better suited to his space..
shit why not say go get a 1k lamp as we all know that they put out more light, but what use is it if you're just going to be suffering in a space way too small for it... one way to have good grows ime, is to know your space and what it can handle and living in that happen range instead of trying to push the space with either too many plants or too much light or what ever.. :)
 
Banditt

Banditt

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racerboy71 said:
i love all of these people saying get a 600 watter when the first thing that you should be asking is what size grow does dude have?? of course, a 600 is better than a 400 watter, but not if he has a 2x 2 or so space and not much in the way of air intake / exchange, cuz then the plus that you'd get from the light would be lost, and more, to the added heat and associated problems that come along with it, and you'd end up having more problems and less yield over a smaller 400 watter, that is better suited to his space..
shit why not say go get a 1k lamp as we all know that they put out more light, but what use is it if you're just going to be suffering in a space way too small for it... one way to have good grows ime, is to know your space and what it can handle and living in that happen range instead of trying to push the space with either too many plants or too much light or what ever.. :)
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He already said his space is 3x3. Reading is FUNdamental.
 
yesum

yesum

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You can veg with the 150 watt or the cfl's, you will not need all 600 watts for that. Watch the temps too as too much heat will cause airy buds.
 
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Duder1984

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it all comes down to how much money you can spend on a decent HID lamp

Metal Halide bulbs run cooler and cheaper than HPS and are good for the veg cycle, when you consider that the cost of replacement bulbs which you will invariably have to do after prolonged use, it just makes sense to use metal halide for veg and then to switch out the bulb to HPS for flowering. HPS will give you the best bang for your buck, but cooling considerations must be made. I would recommend using a metal reflective air cooled hood with a glass window, this will come in very handy toward the end of your flowering cycles.

600 watt HPS air cooled lamps imo are the best option as they have the longest filament in proportion to the bulb size, giving the most efficient spread of light. as a general rule of thumb 1 600watt HPS will cover approx 4x4 area grow space.

Once you have all your nutrients settled you can start to really hone your craft on producing, thick, dense, thc covered nugs. To do this you will want to get your lamp as close to the buds as possible and keeping the temps as cool as possible with around 30-40 humidity. The buds grow slower at cooler temps but the benefit imo is worth the longer wait.

EDIT: I forgot to add that spending the extra bucks on a quiet running switchable ballast is well worth the investment. upfront you may be spending extra dollars but long term you really do win, as I can tell you first hand about the nightmares of using cheap magnetic ballasts.
 
two2brains

two2brains

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who cares if they are airy?? If it means that much then compress them right after harvest and they will dry rock hard.

IMO if the quality is good it doesn't matter if 1g is the size of a penny or the size of golf ball.
 
rocknratm

rocknratm

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3x3, ya any high output over 150 is gonna need to be air cooled. NEED, I will stress this. Maybe some exeptions, but that was my first mistake as a grower. 1400 watts in a walk in closet. lets just say the door wasnt open all the time, no ventilation, just an oscilating fan
 
rocknratm

rocknratm

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two2brains said:
who cares if they are airy?? If it means that much then compress them right after harvest and they will dry rock hard.

IMO if the quality is good it doesn't matter if 1g is the size of a penny or the size of golf ball.
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I care if they are airy. I want dense ass buds.
 
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