Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

homebrewer

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Homebrewer,

Have you used coco with drip emitters? What are your thoughts?
I have not. If promix ever fails me, I may look into coco. If that day comes, I'd probably hand-water.

What do you do with your trim of fan leaves after harvest? I have a large garbage bag full I need to get rid of.
I compost mine then use that in my garden outside.

How long do you cure for?
I cure until I smoke it :) I'm not a curing junkie though I do like to give my personal stash enough time to really lock in a nice aroma, say 3 weeks?
 

Trichy Bastard

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Thanks for the great information. I was advised by a close friend that I shouldn't use my tap water because…*I have a software system installed and the salt used to clean the water…*can get in the water and bad for the roots and he recommended that I use my RO water instead.
LOL I think you meant "Soft water" not "software" - but yeah, the salt is used to ionize the resin beads during the "regeneration cycle"which then the ions pull out the minerals as the water flows through them, some residual salt on the resin bed can get into the system, although it's not very much, it's better to avoid. You can use Potassium salts however instead of soduim salts. It costs a bit more though. I have a whole house softerner/carbon filter too, and it's one of the best thigns I ever did...
 

KaNiZeChT13

Member
ok so ive been looking at a lot of your forums but i havent seen exactly how much nutrients you use per gallon. it probably says it somewhere but theres still a lot of reading lol. im about to invest in a dyna-gro set of nutes and while their on their way here i need to find out how much to use. like what is your feeding schedule for yours? like how many ml per gallon. im new to this and i need help
 

KaNiZeChT13

Member
i guess what im really wondering is the ratio of all the fertilizers. im buying the dyna-gro grow, bloom, mag pro, and pro tekt. i just wanna know how much of each should go in at a time. im really confused im now switching to hydroponics so im not too smart on this subject. and also how often do i need to add the nutrients to my resevoir? i have an 18 gallon and it hooks up to an 8 planter nft system
 

homebrewer

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i guess what im really wondering is the ratio of all the fertilizers. im buying the dyna-gro grow, bloom, mag pro, and pro tekt. i just wanna know how much of each should go in at a time. im really confused im now switching to hydroponics so im not too smart on this subject. and also how often do i need to add the nutrients to my resevoir? i have an 18 gallon and it hooks up to an 8 planter nft system
The amounts and ratios depends on the stage of plant growth, your environment and your strains. I have three grow journals on here where I at least talk about DynaGro products. I'm all for helping people but what I really don't believe in is spoon-feeding people which skips the 'learning process'. I'm sure you can find a DynaGro feeding schedule somewhere on the internets but what that isn't telling you is why you're using them in the amounts that you are. Read through my journals, call DynaGro, use Google. The simple fact that you're giving DG a shot as a beginner shows that you've got more brains than the average beginner. Here's a starting point in veg while you're learning: 3-4mls of grow and maybe 4mls of protekt per gallon. Buy a pH pen, a TDS meter, and add protekt first.
 

Joedank

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I put all my airy buds or LARF if you will thru my bubble bags I usually do it separate from sugar leaf cuz the leaf makes a better product .;)
 

KingIV20

Active Member
Yessir that's some beautiful looking hash. I'm all about it. Though I have not personally used bubble bags before on my harvests, I do prefer them. But I did do a BHO extraction on my previous grows. The shit is potent as hell, being straight butane melt, but is really annoying to deal with and I only would get a few grams if lucky out of a good amount of trim. The bags are the way to go for sure...that or the APE :)
 
I was telling a friend about this post and all that I had learned from it, and he was convinced enough to switch from GH to dyna grow and is going to be following a similar system as the one you are using except using hydroton rocks in 5 gallon buckets with a ebb and flow system. His initial question, which I couldn't answer, was... how does the 'max out at 1.2 EC' philosophy change when moving up from 600 watt to 1000 watts. Would it be proportional? Two thirds more light therefore two thirds more ppm? Bringing the max EC to 2.0? Or is the increase in light not as large a factor? Any thoughts?
 

homebrewer

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... how does the 'max out at 1.2 EC' philosophy change when moving up from 600 watt to 1000 watts. Would it be proportional? Two thirds more light therefore two thirds more ppm? Bringing the max EC to 2.0? Or is the increase in light not as large a factor? Any thoughts?
More light just means more area for more plants. I'd keep the feeding levels the same (1.2 EC max) and taper down to 1.0 EC during the last week or two. Burr goes lower than I do with great results so just monitor the health of your plants, the ppm, pH and you should be set up for success. Keep in mind that before one can see any real differences between nutrient brands, environmental conditions and basic growing practices must be sound.
 

homebrewer

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I just wanted to post a quick pic of my most recent breeding project. The goal isn't to create seeds necessarily though I guess I could always cube the most desirable pheno to stabilize it in seed form. The initial cross I did make with my selected parent plants resulted in a surprisingly homogenous crop with the only real variation between the phenos being aroma. I will say that the aromas do vary a good bit, some being influenced more by one parent than the other. One smells nothing like either parent and actually resembles a strong spicy dirt scent, kinda gross actually. The more attractive aromas range from sweet blueberries (pictured below) to sweet skunk/spice which is also nice.

Below is a nice lady at day 40 who seems to exhibit what's most important to me at this stage. Aroma, resin production and yield, in that order, were my goals thus far and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that potency is about as good as it looks visually.

Once these plants are harvest and a keeper pheno is selected, hopefully I can show off my new strain in a grow journal. Cheers!




A crop of the previous pic for a better look at resin production. As always, DynaGro bases only.

 

homebrewer

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Tell me again what the parents were? that is one frosty nug!
I don't know if i'll reveal the exact lineage but what I did come across in my breeding research was that a cross of polar opposites results in a more interesting strain than a cross of similar parents. So that's what this is, a cross of two strains that had virtually nothing in common and the idea was to not only create something totally different than the parents, but to create something totally different than what I already have. I'm afraid that revealing the lineage would have people think it's just a 50/50 split between the two parents when my goal is to produce something independent and unique.
 

burrr

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So we are stuck guessing. :)

I'll guess AK erkle
or maybe dumpster erkle.

whatever she is, she looks really dank.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
im real interested homebrewer got me thinking of how I could cross my orange kush with my dump truck :) would I think be a lethal combo lol

1 ? how did you go about geting your strains to cross, did you use clodilal silver?
 

homebrewer

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im real interested homebrewer got me thinking of how I could cross my orange kush with my dump truck :) would I think be a lethal combo lol

1 ? how did you go about geting your strains to cross, did you use clodilal silver?
Orange fire Truck sounds tasty :)

I've done crosses in the past (always a male and a female) with strains that I've ordered from SeedBoutique but they'll also throw in a pack of freebies with your oder and every now and again I'll get a great male out of a random freebie pack. Since I know what to expect out of a cloned strain, crossing the 'unknown' male gives me a better look at what said male is bringing to the table. It's a lot of trail and error but if I see similar traits across the board that I can trace back to the male's influence, I can then either stick with that initial cross, cross it with something I feel is a better match, or trash the male.

I think goals are important from the start before you begin the project (ie. yield, potency, color, plant structure, maturity time, etc.) so as to not get lost in the variation of phenos that usually results when pollen chucking. I would recommend using a parent that is very indica or sativa dominant as to minimize that variation.
 

jesicalorren

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i was using tetra flora and change over to AN for about $700 after about 2 months i didnt see a HUGE difference so i tookem up on there 100% money back guerntee got my mony back n spent about 175 on dyna gro. been using that for like a month and it seems to be doing as good as AN fk spending all that money on something that i can get the same result from a quarter of the price!!!
 
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