I have a Dutch Passion: Ultimate freak pheno growing right now....Got it 1 out of 5 fem seeds. Kind of a problem since it's growin half the height of the other plants. what it lacks in height it makes up in quality, probably 3x the crystals with way denser bud sites..seriously looks like a science experiment gone wrong (or right depending on how u look at it)
Plants have no smell from clones to jars.
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Do you hand feed them?
I used general hydroponic nutes too.... you dont actually need to use floragrow during flowering.
I use equal parts FloraBloom, FloraMicro and Koolbloom in my resevoir mixture... Not following the directions on the bottle, I add equal parts of each to 12 gallons filtered water until I get to a desired PPM.. 600ppm @ 2 weeks flower, 1000ppm @ 6 weeks flower, 1300 @ 7 weeks until finished.
lxyzeroomer
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yes i hand feed them i use gro for veg and blowm for flowering never both at the same time..
lxyzeroomer
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i just started using azos and mykos azos is a benifical microbe that takes the nitrogen from the air and converts and feeds it to the plants and mykos is a benifical fungus that breaks down and transports nutes to the plants roots but with the water the way it is not working as good as it can...
well even though you are hand feeding, since you are using a hydroponic medium you sort of have to consider it hydro, or soiless. If I were you I would buy a 20 gallon container, fill it with tap water, or ro water, let it sit for a day or two, then add equal parts florabloom/micro and pick up a booster, koolbloom is working well for me. find the ppm sweet spot and balance the pH in the solution to around 5.6-5.8....then hand feed as needed.
you could easily set up a drip system if you wanted to save yourself a lil trouble with having to hand feed
lxyzeroomer
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just an update,my ro system is hooked up ph is 6.1 and tds is at 002ppm just cleaned out the ez-cloner and took 15 clones to start.... vegging motherss,budding are going to get ro water from now on ill never ever use well water again bought a bottle of cal-mag to supplement ro water 1st day of ez-cloner with ro ill keep you posted... (well water i was using ph 8.5 and tds was 350ppm quite a difference....)
lxyzeroomer
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id probably die if i drank that water!!!!
Since you are hand feeding I'm assuming you'll be mixing up food for each plant individually. Try to max out your ppm levels without shocking the plant, this just takes time and experience. Different strains have different tolerances as I'm sure you know.
If I were you I would decide how much water i want to feed a particular plant, fill a container with it and then add cal/mag supp to around 200ppm, then add your nutrients and adjust the water to around 5.7 pH.
If you want to go full blown hydro to simply a few things I would recommend using flood and drain...but you will want to plan this out a bit more, as youll want to have the same strain at the same growth stage per a particular grow area, so that you can use a single reservoir and monitor exactly how much your plants are eating and having centralized control that you can automate. eventually you get to a point where you are just checking the ph of your reservoirs daily, adding nutrients to desired ppm levels and making sure to add water to your fill lines, very easy to manage with maximum control.
If I were you I would decide how much water i want to feed a particular plant, fill a container with it and then add cal/mag supp to around 200ppm, then add your nutrients and adjust the water to around 5.7 pH.
If you want to go full blown hydro to simply a few things I would recommend using flood and drain...but you will want to plan this out a bit more, as youll want to have the same strain at the same growth stage per a particular grow area, so that you can use a single reservoir and monitor exactly how much your plants are eating and having centralized control that you can automate. eventually you get to a point where you are just checking the ph of your reservoirs daily, adding nutrients to desired ppm levels and making sure to add water to your fill lines, very easy to manage with maximum control.
lxyzeroomer
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when i get the space i need im gonna use the aquamist system.
Growing in Coco try the house and garden line or the canna coco line. A lot of people use the house and garden aquaflakes and calmag in coco and its very effective.
I love both canna and house and garden but I will confess that the best tasting green I ever grew came from bio bizz bio grow, bio bloom with bio heaven and overdrive and sensizym to finish.
Im still waiting to taste the house and garden stuff I reckon its gonna be stonking though.
Hope that gives you a few ideas.
Mouse
I love both canna and house and garden but I will confess that the best tasting green I ever grew came from bio bizz bio grow, bio bloom with bio heaven and overdrive and sensizym to finish.
Im still waiting to taste the house and garden stuff I reckon its gonna be stonking though.
Hope that gives you a few ideas.
Mouse
MrStickyScissors
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I bought a RO system after runing my first crop. my tap water not even well water just city water is 750 ppms. I pulled a little over a pound off 3 1,000s. I advise anyone that is having trouble growing to start at the main source of things. your water. test it
MrStickyScissors
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and if it dont smell get rid of the boo boo.
zvuv
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The effect of the moon's gravity is so faint as to be almost undetectable - about 1 part in 1 million of it's weight. Between the apogee and the perigee of the moon, the weight of a liter of water in you grow room varies by about 1/1000 gm. It's not going to make any difference to the flow of fluids in an mj plant.
This is derived quite simply from Newton's Law of Gravitation. And no, scientists do not simply accept earlier results without question. Science is a highly competitive field and if you can knock over an established theory, your career is made. In fact overturning established ideas is fundamental to science.
WeedFreak78
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This was an interesting read to say the least...lol. Sounds like the R/O water is gonna help-alot. I wanted to comment on the moon phase issue, excuse me for going off topic, but it has been historically recorded that native peoples throughout the world planted crops around the different moon cycles. The Farmers Almanac also lists the best time to plant crops... based around moon cycles. Is it all bunk or does it have merit? IDK for sure, but it would make for an interesting thread(of it's own).
To the OP, hope things work out, it'll be interesting to see what the RO water does.
To the OP, hope things work out, it'll be interesting to see what the RO water does.
MrStickyScissors
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im running the house and garden line for soil. I will never use anything else now
Your example only takes into account the force of gravity, it does not factor in the full spectrum of effects. If you review the several articles of research on this phenomena you will discover that despite positive correlative evidence to suggest that, and this is key, there ARE benefits from growing in phase with moon that are easy to take advantage of, they aren't understood through empirical measurement.
Thank you for citing newton's law of gravity, like I really needed you to do that. I understand the scientific method and the implications on the scientific community too, but thanks again. And again! The path to objectivity no doubt has riches along the way...and it's for certain that if you wanted to devout your career to understanding this phenomena you would be very famous if you made significant progress..but as you can see so many ambitious researchers have already attempted to do this with not a whole lot of success... does that take away from the validity in objectified correlations established over thousands of years? Not in my opinion.
In my opinion well established correlations are worthy data points and I sincerely doubt I am alone in this belief. Absence of evidence is not evidence for absence. What we are dealing with is the futility in man's need to understand when the tools for doing so aren't readily understood or available.
zvuv
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@duder: I will respond in two separate posts.
of the moon which has nothing to do with the distance of the Moon from the Earth. Perhaps you had some other cause in mind?
You refer to the "full spectrum of effects". Apart from gravity and moonlight (and this is an indoor grow) what else is there? Well I suppose the
MJ plant might have evolved to tune it's some of it's behavior to the phases of the moonlike a menstrual cycle. So the 'effect' is now coded into
their DNA. Might could possibly be. But where is the evidence for this?
And this really puzzles me...
Perhaps you would like to respond to these points before I discuss your claims of supporting data in a second post. OTH people might feel that this has gone far enough and we should stop hijacking the thread.
True. I had read this in your earlier post...
..and assumed you were thinking of the moon's gravity ( which is the explanation usually offered ) but now I see you refer to the waxing and waning
of the moon which has nothing to do with the distance of the Moon from the Earth. Perhaps you had some other cause in mind?
You refer to the "full spectrum of effects". Apart from gravity and moonlight (and this is an indoor grow) what else is there? Well I suppose the
MJ plant might have evolved to tune it's some of it's behavior to the phases of the moonlike a menstrual cycle. So the 'effect' is now coded into
their DNA. Might could possibly be. But where is the evidence for this?
And this really puzzles me...
...How can there be "positive correlative evidence to suggest that... there ARE benefits from growing in phase with moon ..." without observeable results? Surely if there is evidence of a beneficial correlation, then the plants are growing better in some way? Otherwise how could you possibly know that it works? And if the plants do grow better, this would be empirical data.
Perhaps you would like to respond to these points before I discuss your claims of supporting data in a second post. OTH people might feel that this has gone far enough and we should stop hijacking the thread.
lxyzeroomer
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my budding plants got straight ph balanced ro water to flush some of the bad water tds out today next watering cal-mag florabloom,ro water ph"d....