First Grow- Aurora Indica

Jessy2287

Active Member
I only use 6400ks for veg, I have no plans to use 2700k for veg. my question was:
During flower, in addition to using 3 2700k bulbs , should I

A. Purchase 2 more 2700k bulbs
or
B. Use 3 2700k bulbs and add 2 of the 6400k bulbs that I was using for veg (avoiding purchasing more bulbs)

Would a mix of 3 2700k and 2 6400k during flower have a negative, neutral or positive affect on yield and potency

I have read posts of people with 4x4 rooms and 1000w HPS and great buds.

I understand that 5 2700k would be better than 3, I was just trying to save a little $$$

I do not want to use HPS due to the heat and fire hazard. I have no place to vent the heat. Where I live, and in my setup, it will not be possible to vent the heat properly. i have no choice but to use CFLs. I have read many post that have had successful CFL grows, I believe its possable
 

antonmacx

Member
I only use 6400ks for veg, I have no plans to use 2700k for veg. my question was:
During flower, in addition to using 3 2700k bulbs , should I

A. Purchase 2 more 2700k bulbs
or
B. Use 3 2700k bulbs and add 2 of the 6400k bulbs that I was using for veg (avoiding purchasing more bulbs)

Would a mix of 3 2700k and 2 6400k during flower have a negative, neutral or positive affect on yield and potency

I have read posts of people with 4x4 rooms and 1000w HPS and great buds.

I understand that 5 2700k would be better than 3, I was just trying to save a little $$$

I do not want to use HPS due to the heat and fire hazard. I have no place to vent the heat. Where I live, and in my setup, it will not be possible to vent the heat properly. i have no choice but to use CFLs. I have read many post that have had successful CFL grows, I believe its possable
Again i don't recommend to you CFL 2700K's for Flower but in this case you don't need more than 3 because you need at least 30000lm and you have 36000lm with 3, now if you want more sure you can have 1 or 2 more but is Optional... Experts says you need 3000lm per sq.ft so you will fine. And no, do not mix your Lights, they need the Light of "Late Summer" so i vote A. Optional
 

Jessy2287

Active Member
35 Days from seed
2 week of Vegetative Growth

After the second week of Veg, they still seem to be doing very well. I had some problems with magnesium deficiency, but after adding some Epsom salts to my water, it seems to be under control.

I plan to keep veging under my 3 125 watt 6400k CFLs until 10/3, then go to 12/12 under 5 125 watt 2700k CFLs.

So far so good as far as I can tell. They are very short under the LST and starting to branch well. I hope to set up a SCROG.

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watchxyouxburn

Active Member
I've been following your progress, good stuff. I just started my own grow with 1 Aurora Indica, and 1 Purple Urkel. It's my second serious grow, the first round was a Snow White and Sweet Tooth LST grow under "blue/cool white" CFL for veg and "red/warm white" CFL for flower, in a slightly ammended batch of Miracle Grow Organic potting soil. Don't let people scare you too much about growing with CFL bulbs, you may not get the same yield as using HPS, but you will still get some decent bud. I had a pretty half assed set-up with 2 plants roughly 18 inches tall/wide each at the time of harvest, and pulled a little over a half off them, dry weight, and I have no complaints about the quality of the smoke. I'll be experimenting with hydroponics this time, which should help increase the yield.

My question is this, with your AI seedlings, did they grow really slowly at first? Mine sprouted 4-5 days ago, and has just barely started showing its second set of leaves at the growth point, not counting the cotyledons, and is extremely short, maybe 1/2 inch tall, at the most.
 

Jessy2287

Active Member
I would not say they grew slowly, just very short and very dense. Each set of photos is 7 days of growth, each plant is numbered 1,2,3.Plant #2 would be much taller than the others if not for the LST. Plant #3 is much shorter and denser than the others. I am not sure that this strain is the best choice for LST and SCROG, although I have seen one journal here that SCROGed Aurora Indica with great results.
Link to a great AI grow
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/303844-aurora-indica-scrog-screen-green-7.html

I think I will need to Veg a while to fill my screen. I chose this strain because I will use 90% of it for cannabutter.
I have Muscular Dystrophy and found that high Indica strains help with spasms, relaxation and muscle pain. I may try a vaperizor, but I can control my doseage better by eating it. Please post a few photos or your AI if you have some. - Thanks for the responce watchxyouxburn, I was not sure if many people were following my grow.

Could anyone with experience with this strain tell me how much the plants grew after inducing flower?
 

watchxyouxburn

Active Member
I'm finishing up my space now, and dealing with a missing camera battery charger, both due to having just moved. All I need to do is either paint my walls white or get some mylar, but I'm leaning more towards painting at this point. I should have pics and a journal to share sometime soon. You're height is going to be controlled a lot by the LST/SCROG, but on average an indica will grow roughly 2-3 times its height from veg if not being trained. I used LST and would put the growth somewhere around double the height by the time I harvested. It all depends on the amount of room you have, but most people go by the formula of seedling-2weeks, veg-4weeks, flower-8-10 weeks. Technically you can grow your plant under a 12/12 schedule from day 1 and it will still take 3 months to grow a plant that will be about as short as possible. Personally I go by height, I know I have about 5 feet to work with, minus 4 inches for lights, 2 inches for hooks,16 inches for buckets, etc., so I know I need to switch to 12/12 somewhere around a plant height of 12 inches if I'm not training, 18 inches if I am using LST. Ideally we would all wait until the plants told us they were ready by growing asymmetrically, but we're not all so lucky as to have the space and equipment to grow a monster plant or two.

I haven't been spending much time with my AI since she sprouted, finally gave her some real attention tonight. I think part of what I conceived as the seedling growing slowly was actually some nute burn on its first leaves that stunted their growth. I accidentally soaked my rock wool in a general strength nutrient solution rather than a low strength one, I rinsed it but I guess not well enough. I'm going to be trying out growing via hydro this time, it should be fun. I've already put together a nice little ebb and flow two site starter for when I see roots coming through the rock wool. It will be perfect for most of veg stage, and as soon as I see some nice roots growing down from the net pots in that system, I will go with either 3 or 5 gallon DWC buckets for flower. I can't wait to clone for my first time too.
 

Jessy2287

Active Member
39 days from seed

I have setup my screen. The screen is 30"x 35"

The plants are all staring to fill out. I have 3 125w CFL 6400k.

I have not topped or FIMM.

I was wondering if I should top them. I plan 2 or 3 more week of veg.
Would that help to fill my screen?

I plan to go to 12/12 with 5 125w CFL 2700k around 10/3.




 

watchxyouxburn

Active Member
How tall/wide are they? If you top them now they will definitely bush out even more, especially if you plan to veg them for another couple weeks, while guiding them through that screen. I can see you potentially having a very nice yield. From what I've read, AI's barely double in height when they flower, so be prepared for them to gain a lot of width as well as height when you go into flower. I think top now, go to flower as planned in October. Once you start guiding them up and through, you can prune away lower, less developed leaves and branches, as you'll want to direct all the growing energy to the canopy/buds, which is going to be the only parts of the plants getting light anyway.
 

Ontheball

Well-Known Member
Looks like your doing bloody amazing for a first grow bud and uve certainly got all the equipment u need , im getting the impression uve done alot of research before planting that first seed. Only thing i can recommend to you is that you put your cfl sideways. your plants will get more use out of the light that way.

It doesnt matter if you mix bulbs fullstop , so long as you have atleast 50% of the spectrum required for the stage of the plant. Growing how you are personally id just keep to blue only or red only. I need to run a mix with my autos , im hoping the other lights turn up 2mrw.

Cant believe how cheap yours were !
 

Jessy2287

Active Member
Yes, you're right Ontheball, i spent about 3 months reading before I ordered my seeds. You must have been reading my mind, I just spent the last 6 hours building some homemade CFL reflectors. They are now in sideways. The homemade reflectors do not look pretty, but they will do the job. I will post some pics on Wednesday.
 

Jessy2287

Active Member
6 Weeks from Seed

My new cheap CFL reflectors are working very well. The ends are open and I have them hanging at an angle, that seem to bleed off the heat and send it up to my exhaust. The temps at the top of the canopy are holding from 72 to 84. The cool weather has arrived, we have had outside temps as low as the 20's. My lights out temps are around 65.

All seems well so far, the AI are now starting to touch the screen. I still plan to start flower on 10/3. I don't think I will fill my screen, they seem to be very short and thick. I hope to be able to spread them out over the next 2 weeks. My first grow is going better than expected, but never count your chickens until they've hatched !

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watchxyouxburn

Active Member
IMO, they are at about the perfect height to go into flower when you plan to. Just barely to the screen now means when the stretch comes on in flowering you should be able to guide them right where you want them to go to get optimal growth.
 

murph

Active Member
IMO, they are at about the perfect height to go into flower when you plan to. Just barely to the screen now means when the stretch comes on in flowering you should be able to guide them right where you want them to go to get optimal growth.
i agree .........
 

RawBudzski

Well-Known Member
Looking good man, I grew Aurora Indica from nirvana.. I have a few threads on it if you wanna go dig up some pix. They were amazing vigorous plants, I also topped / LST'd.

They have really tight dense nugs like LA Conf but do not smell as much, really low odor & may I suggest you let the trichs amber some before chopping.
 

Jessy2287

Active Member
7 Weeks from Seed

Wow, I guess they will fill out my screen better than I thought. They have grown a lot since last week. I will veg one more week then change my lights to 5 125w 2700k CFLs at 12/12. I will eventually need to clean up the jungle under the screen. I hope my efforts will help to produce a decent CFL yield


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Jessy2287

Active Member
may I suggest you let the trichs amber some before chopping.
Thanks RawBudzski, that made me think of an important question. I have Muscular Dystrophy and am growing to relieve my severe muscle spasms, nerve and muscle pain. I do not smoke the medicine, I make canna butter and use that to make brownies and such. I need the relaxing "coucklock" to relax my muscles.

Will harvesting with amber trichs achieve this ? Or should I go with 50/50 ? What dose every one think? Dose the fact that you are using it to make butter affect when you harvest?
 

Jug Stomper

Well-Known Member
LOOKIN' SWEET! you are gonna fill that out. I read that the more amber, the more couchlock, so it seems like 90% amber, 10% cloudy is what you should go for. My last batch I did like 10-15% amber, the rest was cloudy and a lot of clear, and I now wish I would gone for way more amber.
 
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