7.5PH water in soil, too low? 6.2 after nutes are added to low?

oceangreen

oceangreen

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Having nute lock out issues. My water PH is 7.5.

After adding the nutes it is about 6.2. Is the PH problem whats causing my lock out issue or is it something else.

should PH up my water so when I add my nutes its a bit higher like 6.8?

or should I add PH up after I add the nutes?
 
oceangreen

oceangreen

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I will aslo be using wood ash as a natural PH UP. Will it interfere with the nutes since it has natural minerals in it?
Should I just keep it in the flowering PPM vicinity? 1000-1600 ppm?
 
kbo ca

kbo ca

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adjust your ph after you mix your nutrients in. the range you are in between 6.0 and 6.5 is where you want to be. If your plant is having problems i wouldn't call ph the culprit. If you can post a picture of your plant and explain your feeding schedule and brand you can get to the root of the problem quicker.
 
cerberus

cerberus

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if its nute locked. ph it at about 6.5 and flush it with no nutrients. Its not just the PH, 1600 ppm for an already ammended soil is to hot no matter how dialed your ppm is. flush if your worried.

flush = small small amount of nut, water PH'd 6.5 (ish) 3 times as much water as the size of its pot (ie 3 gal pot gets 9 gal of water)
just my .02
 
JLStiffy

JLStiffy

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If your only giving your plant Nova Bloom every 3rd watering, than you have about 3 things that are wrong. First, generally its a feed, feed water, second, your missing your micro frets and third IF you are boosting your frets to 1000-1600 in just the bloom bottle than your overdosing your girls which really makes scenes too. Im just giving a little bit of incite and not saying whats wrong, but generally everything I said is pretty sounds proof. Agreeing with those above, I keep pH 6.4 consistent through flower and veg. If your in soil than a pH of 6.8 is ideal. But im guessing your soilliess and therefor, 6.0-6.5 is ideal. Some say 6.5 in Veg and work your way down the scale to 6.0 and back to 6.2 when flushing. I found 6.4 to be more ideal than the lower pH scale of 6.0.
If your plants are not sitting in the run off I would not care to much about run off. Keep it simple and pH adjust after you mix your frets and keep it in the right scope of things. Also, make sure u know how to use your pH pen appropriately; in which, u dont get misleading readings!
 
oceangreen

oceangreen

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JLStiffy said:
If your only giving your plant Nova Bloom every 3rd watering, than you have about 3 things that are wrong. First, generally its a feed, feed water, second, your missing your micro frets and third IF you are boosting your frets to 1000-1600 in just the bloom bottle than your overdosing your girls which really makes scenes too. Im just giving a little bit of incite and not saying whats wrong, but generally everything I said is pretty sounds proof. Agreeing with those above, I keep pH 6.4 consistent through flower and veg. If your in soil than a pH of 6.8 is ideal. But im guessing your soilliess and therefor, 6.0-6.5 is ideal. Some say 6.5 in Veg and work your way down the scale to 6.0 and back to 6.2 when flushing. I found 6.4 to be more ideal than the lower pH scale of 6.0.
If your plants are not sitting in the run off I would not care to much about run off. Keep it simple and pH adjust after you mix your frets and keep it in the right scope of things. Also, make sure u know how to use your pH pen appropriately; in which, u dont get misleading readings!
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the reason I am feeding less in because of the lock out issues. I was just able to get a meter and other things to correct PH. So, this is why I was late in fixing the problem.
I am in SOIL BTW. Yes, I will adjust to 6.8 and that should fix the issues. The runoff is just the water in the bucket after I flush the soil.
I will also increase the feed to (feed,feed, water) with every one I flush.
 
kbo ca

kbo ca

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it's nute burn man. cerberus called it. flush out that medium immediatley! Once you get rid of the toxicity you should see some improvement.
 
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ForumAccount

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start to ph once your ppm's are close to where you want them. if you're aiming for say 1300ppm, start throwing in the ph around 1200ppm, depending on how much you have to move the ph level. your final ppm level should be that after you ph. keep your ph at 6.5, during both veg and bud.

start using a better feeding program, and none of this feed, water, water or feed, feed, water. feed every time, flush once a week. flush the entire week before you crop
 
dragnit

dragnit

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All wood ash contain heavy metals and might be ok for the flower garden but I wouldn't want to smoke it.
oceangreen said:
I will aslo be using wood ash as a natural PH UP. Will it interfere with the nutes since it has natural minerals in it?
Should I just keep it in the flowering PPM vicinity? 1000-1600 ppm?
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oceangreen

oceangreen

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thanks for the comments guys.

My soil PH was very very low and causing lockout. I am trying to slowly get it back up and adjusting the Nute solution PH.

My GHE nutes for slowering really made my soil PH dive as I did'nt alter it with PH up. So i was feeding a solution of low 5's even.
 
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Wetdog

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oceangreen said:
thanks for the comments guys.

My soil PH was very very low and causing lockout. I am trying to slowly get it back up and adjusting the Nute solution PH.

My GHE nutes for slowering really made my soil PH dive as I did'nt alter it with PH up. So i was feeding a solution of low 5's even.
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Why don't you get and add some dolomite or calcitic lime and correct your soils pH for good?

pHng water or nutes will only temporarily change your soils pH and not fix anything long term. Lime will get it right and keep it right.

Wet
 
kbo ca

kbo ca

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ForumAccount said:
start using a better feeding program, and none of this feed, water, water or feed, feed, water. feed every time, flush once a week. flush the entire week before you crop
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It's a bad idea to feed every watering. Plants benefit from breaks in feeding. Call any nutrient company (if they are honest and care about your success) and they will tell you to feed twice a week max. Feeding too much won't make your plants grow faster or yield more. It will actually hurt them and slow them down. Respect
 
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