What Is Up With Feminized Seeds???

themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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whats ur lighting schedule ohsin?

an hour in the dark SHOULDN'T cause it to flower however since its been in veg for so long i can see it as a possibility but if you keep the light cycle at least 18/6 it should be fine...at the worst it'll re-veg. are you sure you're since hairs as in pistils? or those things (i forget what the proper term is) that grows in the same vicinity that at first glance looks like a pistil but is indeed part of the plant?

you'll be fine though as long as you maintain a long light period. a little darkness wont hurt it. im sure.
 
oHsiN666

oHsiN666

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yeah the pre-flowers, im sure. but just wondering what else it could be. and yes they are in constant light 24hr cycle under HOt5. i think i shoudl be fine, but it just seems liek they all came out over night. rather strange i thought.
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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Sorry, I didn't read through the thread, I just wanted to state that I'm starting to find feminized seeds to be a pain in the ass, with their tendency to hermie. I grew a handful of grows with regular seeds, and never had a problem, but as soon as I switched to fems....bam, hermies, three runs in a row. Granted, i was dealing with high heat, at the time, which I believe may have pushed them to hermie on me, but still....it never happened with regular seeds, ever, even when I was learning, and stressed the hell out of them. They didn't hermie bad, but it was still enough to cause me to want to switch back, and take the time to sort out a few males, next time around.
 
themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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jawbrodt said:
Sorry, I didn't read through the thread, I just wanted to state that I'm starting to find feminized seeds to be a pain in the ass, with their tendency to hermie. I grew a handful of grows with regular seeds, and never had a problem, but as soon as I switched to fems....bam, hermies, three runs in a row. Granted, i was dealing with high heat, at the time, which I believe may have pushed them to hermie on me, but still....it never happened with regular seeds, ever, even when I was learning, and stressed the hell out of them. They didn't hermie bad, but it was still enough to cause me to want to switch back, and take the time to sort out a few males, next time around.
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This is simply not true. Cannabis can/will hermie no matter if the seeds are male or female. the chances are practically equal. however you're at a greater chance for hermies with sativa (or sativa dom) strains versus indica (or indica dom strains). Im not sure why that reason is but i do not it to be true.

I currently use fem seeds exclusively and have not had a higher hermie rate. Ive never had an indica dom strain hermie on me...only sativas or sativa doms.

Other reasons for hermies are: genetic defect (hermie trait is present in its gene pool), the breeder/bad beans, or provoked stress (especially light/nute stress).


Hermies dont differ between reg or fem seeds. you CAN have reg seed hermies too correct? exactly. its not a fem seed problem. its generally a trait/breeder problem. people DO produce bad batches of beans...it happens. i wouldn't discredit feminized beans just yet.

I began using them because they save time/money/electricity etc. now i only veg what im sure im going to flower...saving space for more guaranteed females. Which saves on electricity and growing supplies (pots, soil, nutes, etc)

just sayin.
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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^I agree with ya there, I'm just getting a little bit disgusted with the issue, wasting almost 4 months at a clip, waiting for them to finish so I can start some new ones. Personally, I think it's the breeders, and I may be 100% wrong here, but my suspicion was that I'd been given seeds that had come from hermie pollen, passed off as true fems. Maybe it was just crap luck, idk.

Having said that, I also have had good experience with one Chrystal seed I'd obtained, back when I was getting started. I had cloned it at least 10x, stressed it in almost every way(while learning.lol), and never had so much as one banana form on it. The name of the breeder was never revealed to me, all I was told is that they were "very trustworthy", by a reputable guy.

Seems like genetics have alot to do with it, and for now, I'm undecided. I'll have to give it some thought, before ordering again.
 
themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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jawbrodt said:
^I agree with ya there, I'm just getting a little bit disgusted with the issue, wasting almost 4 months at a clip, waiting for them to finish so I can start some new ones. Personally, I think it's the breeders, and I may be 100% wrong here, but my suspicion was that I'd been given seeds that had come from hermie pollen, passed off as true fems. Maybe it was just crap luck, idk.

Having said that, I also have had good experience with one Chrystal seed I'd obtained, back when I was getting started. I had cloned it at least 10x, stressed it in almost every way(while learning.lol), and never had so much as one banana form on it. The name of the breeder was never revealed to me, all I was told is that they were "very trustworthy", by a reputable guy.

Seems like genetics have alot to do with it, and for now, I'm undecided. I'll have to give it some thought, before ordering again.
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its probably is the breeder. i had some ghs gear that hermied like a bitch to the point i just pulled it.

I'd never had a hermie from Dutch Passion, paradise, or Reserva Privada (spelling might be off there lol)

RP is definitely legit imo. i grew out a purple wreck bean from them and WOW to this day its probably the best ive grown but i didnt treat it right during flowering....if i did it would have made it even better. it was still trich loaded even with all the stress.


Also as far as hermies go...its never a bad idea to make a few cuttings of whatever fem you're working with and stress the clones purposely to see if they will hermie. a strain with good genetics wont hermie even under the worst stress. i tried that with a feminized bean or two in the past...the ones with good genetics wouldn't hermie even after 1 month + of constant light/nutes, etc stress. the others would hermie within a week or two max.

another cause for hermies could be that someone just planted female beans...selected a plant, sprayed CS to make beans and sold them...all without testing the subject intended for breeding for the hermie trait...so it could have been a hermie from the start they they weren't aware of too. i suspect this is the problem when places like GHS release fem beans and have massive complaints about hermies. i feel they just dont check out the female first before using it to produce who knows how many thousands of beans.
 
oHsiN666

oHsiN666

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HAHAHAHAHA!!!! yes they do. but your chances of it happening are the same as getting males. people really should read the full thread before posting.
 
themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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lambofgod said:
just pay less and sort out the males IMO.
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the cost of the beans (for fems) are more but in the long run you save $$$ by not wasting your electricity, bulb life, nutes, soil, etc. on males that you'll eventually kill off anyway. just my 2 cents. thats why i switched to fems...saves time, space and $


CR500ROOST said:
Feminized seeds do hermie.
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prove it. not just that fem seeds hermie but prove that they hermie BECAUSE they are fem seeds. i dare you.
 
ismokealotofpot

ismokealotofpot

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try dutch masters reverse flower spray. i picked some up at a grow store $23. spray it on when you want to flower and again 10 days later. this will have enough time to ware off before harvest. it prevents the plant from making male flowers.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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themanwiththeplan said:
This is simply not true. Cannabis can/will hermie no matter if the seeds are male or female. the chances are practically equal. however you're at a greater chance for hermies with sativa (or sativa dom) strains versus indica (or indica dom strains). Im not sure why that reason is but i do not it to be true.
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In my experience that has not been the case. It might very well be in yours, but then it might be more due to the genetics you chose rather than a sativa or indica thing.


I currently use fem seeds exclusively and have not had a higher hermie rate. Ive never had an indica dom strain hermie on me...only sativas or sativa doms.



Hermies dont differ between reg or fem seeds. you CAN have reg seed hermies too correct?
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Any strain from either regular or feminized seeds can turn if the conditions are conducive enough for it to happen. But plants from feminized beans have long been known for having a greater tendency to turn hermie than female plants from regular beans will if grown under the exact same less than ideal conditions. Using feminized seeds increases your chances of having hermies. There are of course other factors that cause hermies, but that does not erase the fact that feminized seeds do come with an increased risk of having hermies than comes with regular seeds.

Many years back, when I first began to grow, and for a goodly number of years after, hermies were a very rare event. As the years passed and there was more intermingling of genetics, and then the gimmick that feminized beans are came along, hermies have since become fairly commonplace.
 
CR500ROOST

CR500ROOST

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themanwiththeplan said:
the cost of the beans (for fems) are more but in the long run you save $$$ by not wasting your electricity, bulb life, nutes, soil, etc. on males that you'll eventually kill off anyway. just my 2 cents. thats why i switched to fems...saves time, space and $



prove it. not just that fem seeds hermie but prove that they hermie BECAUSE they are fem seeds. i dare you.
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why dont you lick my balls
 
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