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Jman305

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ive seen strains do that before but dont know what they are? i can just tell you how to turn them purple in most cases.
It wouldn't be dropping night temps to ~58-65 would it? I've heard that causes P deficiency but I can't confirm that. I know cold tricks the plants into thinking fall is coming up because their flowering and nearing the end of their life cycle but I know certain strains are genetically just a certain color. I also read somewhere on a seedbank site... can't remember which atm, but it said that pistils changing pink or purple is a nutrient sensitivity present in certain strains, based on the acidity or alkalinity of the grow medium. A good example of that strain would be Cali Cotton Candy. I saw a grow of it on 420mag with pink pistils.
 

irishboy

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It wouldn't be dropping night temps to ~58-65 would it? I've heard that causes P deficiency but I can't confirm that. I know cold tricks the plants into thinking fall is coming up because their flowering and nearing the end of their life cycle but I know certain strains are genetically just a certain color. I also read somewhere on a seedbank site... can't remember which atm, but it said that pistils changing pink or purple is a nutrient sensitivity present in certain strains, based on the acidity or alkalinity of the grow medium. A good example of that strain would be Cali Cotton Candy. I saw a grow of it on 420mag with pink pistils.
ya dropping the temps, it has made my plants turn purple every time. it was always at the end i did it so who cares if it was a deficiency?lol. never did it on purpose to turn it purple though i did it for other reason on making cleaner buds for harvest.
 

lbezphil2005

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the turning purple isn't a deficiency, it's the plants reaction to try and hold in as much heat - dark colors retain heat, lighter colors reflect heat, purple helps the plants tissues retain more warmth, thats why only some of the plants change - genetics come from cold climate originally, a thousand years ago, maybe less, maybe more.
 

Shwagbag

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It wouldn't be dropping night temps to ~58-65 would it? I've heard that causes P deficiency but I can't confirm that. I know cold tricks the plants into thinking fall is coming up because their flowering and nearing the end of their life cycle but I know certain strains are genetically just a certain color. I also read somewhere on a seedbank site... can't remember which atm, but it said that pistils changing pink or purple is a nutrient sensitivity present in certain strains, based on the acidity or alkalinity of the grow medium. A good example of that strain would be Cali Cotton Candy. I saw a grow of it on 420mag with pink pistils.
lbezphil2005's explanation makes sense from a logical stand point but I'm not sure how much truth there is to it. Turning purple can definitely be a deficiency at times, but an experienced grower can tell the difference. Here is a more detailed description I read a while back, I'm not certain it is correct but the author certainly sounds as if he is very well versed in plant science. This is from Chuckles420king. Some plants are definitely predisposed to turning purple due to genetics. I would suggest playing with some of those strains if you want some purple danks.

Several pigments are responsible for color in plants: chlorophyll, carotene, xanthophyll, and anthocyanins. Chlorophyll is the pigment in chloroplasts of plants that reflects green light. Plants use the energy absorbed by chlorophyll in photosynthesis to produce food for their growth and development. It is continually broken down during photosynthesis and being replenished by the plant.
light absorbed
chlorophill=green
carotene, xanophyll=yellow orange
anthocyanins= red


During flowering, with the passing of summer, days become shorter. The phytochromes, the light-sensing mechanisms in leaves, recognize the shorter day lengths. The shorter days and lower temperatures arrest chlorophyll production. Chlorophyll breaks down faster than it is replaced, allowing the yellow and orange pigments to be unmasked.

The molecules reflecting red wavelengths, anthocyanins, are water-soluble pigments that occur in the cell sap, creating the red, pink, and purple hues. These pigments may not be present during the summer, or vegetative cycle, but their formation is encouraged during a succession of cool nights and sunny days. During these days when photosynthesis and chlorophyll production are decreasing, an abundance of sugars accumulates in the leaf. The cool nights promote a separation layer of cells in the petiole—where the leaf attaches to the stem—that prevents sugar from flowing out of the leaf, and also arrests the flow of nutrients into the leaf. The formation of anthocyanin requires bright light, a diminishing water supply, and the accumulation of sugars trapped in the leaf.

Another factor that can cause purpling is nutrient deficiency, generally phosphorus. Although these stunted plants may bedazzle the novice, they are typically quite distinguishable from naturally occurring anthocyanin expression, due to the other visible adverse side effects of nutrient deficiency, such as leaf and bud malformation and low calyx-to-leaf ratios.
 

irishboy

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ive seen plants turn purple both ways. most times if its a def the leaves turn purps, if its cold the buds turn purps from what ive seen with my grows
 

KawiZZR

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I know this is off topic and if irish would like I will remove it, but just wanted to say that I am extremely impressed by the service from GLH. I ordered a light from Mike and when it arrived today there was an issue with it (pretty sure something must have happened to it during shipping), I left a message and within an hour I got a call back from Mike. He had me check the connections in the light real quick, but I couldn't find anything wrong so he is sending me a replacement unit and a return label to send the one I have back. To get that kind of customer service is almost unheard of these days, and the way in which he approached and handled the situation gives me even more confidence in his company.
 

irishboy

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I know this is off topic and if irish would like I will remove it, but just wanted to say that I am extremely impressed by the service from GLH. I ordered a light from Mike and when it arrived today there was an issue with it (pretty sure something must have happened to it during shipping), I left a message and within an hour I got a call back from Mike. He had me check the connections in the light real quick, but I couldn't find anything wrong so he is sending me a replacement unit and a return label to send the one I have back. To get that kind of customer service is almost unheard of these days, and the way in which he approached and handled the situation gives me even more confidence in his company.
whats wrong with the light? thanks for sharing this with us.
 

KawiZZR

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whats wrong with the light? thanks for sharing this with us.
No problem, I'm happy to share my good experiences with a company if it may help others. There was a dent in the housing and all the fans on one side aren't working. The fans are on the same side of the fixture as the dent so I'm thinking it got damaged due to rough handling and something came loose that I didn't see when I looked things over inside. They kinda like jerk as soon as it's plugged in but then don't move. I didn't want to mess with it too much though, rather not damage anything since it will probably be an easy fix for Mike.
 

irishboy

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No problem, I'm happy to share my good experiences with a company if it may help others. There was a dent in the housing and all the fans on one side aren't working. The fans are on the same side of the fixture as the dent so I'm thinking it got damaged due to rough handling and something came loose that I didn't see when I looked things over inside. They kinda like jerk as soon as it's plugged in but then don't move. I didn't want to mess with it too much though, rather not damage anything since it will probably be an easy fix for Mike.
i am sure for it was the shipping. fedex dose that sometimes to me.lol
 

KawiZZR

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i am sure for it was the shipping. fedex dose that sometimes to me.lol
Yeah, it sucks, just wish they'd be a bit more careful with stuff. And this thing was packed well, snug fit styrofoam all around so they must've been pretty rough to cause this issue with it.
 

irishboy

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Yeah, it sucks, just wish they'd be a bit more careful with stuff. And this thing was packed well, snug fit styrofoam all around so they must've been pretty rough to cause this issue with it.
oh ya ive had that also. i do not use Fedex anymore because of this.
 

colocowboy

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Whats sad is that FEDEX is the careful one! I was at the UPS depot one time and watched those dicks literally punt the packages up to the roller conveyor like in Ace Ventura and laugh about it. I have gotten boxes from them that were so badly beaten they were soft like a paper bag. lol
You can't win with parcel.:fire:
 

irishboy

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Whats sad is that FEDEX is the careful one! I was at the UPS depot one time and watched those dicks literally punt the packages up to the roller conveyor like in Ace Ventura and laugh about it. I have gotten boxes from them that were so badly beaten they were soft like a paper bag. lol
You can't win with parcel.:fire:
ive always been good with UPS and not so much with fedex but at the end i think its just the luck of the drawl? they all beat the boxes.lol
 

Kaptain Kron

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haahaha so true man, hey go take a peak at my thread i chopped my agent orange that i had under blackstar and single kessil, dont laugh at me too much though cuz my nugs are TINY man lol fuckin root rot got me good good good man its why i was wondering why my Agent orange wasnt filling out but was getting all trichy and maturing. I chopped with all milk and clear trichs, because the root ball was so bad, i cut the scrog screen and looked and just said fuck it its comn down, no flush. didnt even weigh the whole amount but i know i took 35gs dry home and a handful of the popcorn nugs off teh bottom a cool 4 grams more probably, not bad for something with NO fucking healthy roots, but wait til you see trichomes on it lol i dont think im worried about trich production anymore. Keep in mind i dont think AO is supposed to be a huge trichome producer but fuck lol.

Hows yours goin man.
 

irishboy

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haahaha so true man, hey go take a peak at my thread i chopped my agent orange that i had under blackstar and single kessil, dont laugh at me too much though cuz my nugs are TINY man lol fuckin root rot got me good good good man its why i was wondering why my Agent orange wasnt filling out but was getting all trichy and maturing. I chopped with all milk and clear trichs, because the root ball was so bad, i cut the scrog screen and looked and just said fuck it its comn down, no flush. didnt even weigh the whole amount but i know i took 35gs dry home and a handful of the popcorn nugs off teh bottom a cool 4 grams more probably, not bad for something with NO fucking healthy roots, but wait til you see trichomes on it lol i dont think im worried about trich production anymore. Keep in mind i dont think AO is supposed to be a huge trichome producer but fuck lol.

Hows yours goin man.
cool ill check it out bro.
 

irishboy

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I want to show you guys something.. Remember how i had two runts and i said i was going to do a test on them and lower the lights close to them and see what happens? Well check this out i each of those runts next to their biggest sisters, look how much more they bushed out and how many more sites they have. the closer the lights were the better those plants did every though those plants were the smallest out of all the plants. i lowed all lights to see if i can get them to catch up to the always bigger ones in the middle?

Test plants lights 16" regular plants 21"

PLANTS LOOK A LITTLE DROOPY BUT THATS BECAUSE I JUST GAVE THEM A GOOD SEAWEED FOLIAR SPRAY

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