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SSHZ

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You stupid fuck...... that ad is from 2010, over a year old. I am a regular subscriber to H.T. and it hasn't been advertised for months and months. You're a terd ball, bro.
 
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eyeball696

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SSHZ said:
You stupid fuck...... that ad is from 2010, over a year old. I am a regular subscriber to H.T. and it hasn't been advertised for months and months. You're a terd ball, bro.
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That's all you have to say?
How educated of a comeback is that?
7-6-2011 You made those ludicrous coments.
And now your true colors come out.
 
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SSHZ

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No, not quite. You keep trying to twist the facts. Making things look different than they actually are. You keep sinking deeper and deeper in lies, deceit, and bullshit. Below is the current advertisement, notice it says 2011........ can you say 2-0-1-1? Your ad says 2010 right on it- it's last years version. The point being he's stopped advertising the strain because of the complaints coming in. It's not selling well anymore, and for good reason.
 
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eyeball696

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I doubt it had anything to do with complaints. If a grower can't grow something maybe they should stop growing the strain. A seed company can't hold growers hands throughout the whole process. Your whole name calling tirade just shows you can't grow and your pictures of 50 or so plants under a thousand watt light just shows that you have more age but no experience just talk. Your pics don't even show anything that would give you any credibility. You still never answered my ?
Do you know what a phenotype is or how to pick one. I've accomplished more in two years than you would hope to in 30 years of your growing. Just answer me that & stop with your name calling. This forum is for endless sky education not someone preaching the garbage your spreading your negativity.
 
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SSHZ

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First off, business has everything to do with it. If you had any business sense, you know it's all about that. Seeds stop selling or sales slow down, and breeders move on to other products that do better. E.S. IS ON IT'S WAY OUT.......... whether you like it or not. I hope I had something to do with that. I'm not denying I post on multiple sites negatively on E.S. and probably will continue as I deem necessary. wherever I post, it's always 10-1 on the negative for people who comment. I'm proud I'm leading the cause. I'm here to right the wrongs, and help new growers along to some success. It's a crime to sell shitty E.S. seeds for a crazy expensive price and it's why I refuse to ever buy from him again. But as I previously said, his other products tend to be high quality.

You keep claiming 50 plants under 1 light....... show me 1 place where I claimed that's how I'm growing. I never have more than 24 plants in a room, and always under a minimum of 2000 watts- how many times to I have to say the same thing? You keep making things up- maybe if you say it enough, you'll believe it.

Two people have already piped in stating you are full of shit. How many more responses are necessary before you shut your trap? You're the kind of person WHO LIKES to be kicked when they are down. I'm happy to oblige.......

I won't answer any stupid questions from you because that's what they are. When you ask something reasonable and responsible, I'll be happy to answer fully and nicely. As of now, you don't warrant a response.
 
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researchkitty

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Well, I might be able to help settle this once and for all........... About 2 months ago I took a pack of Endless Sky and kept 6 of them for mommies. We've cut around 400 clones now. Yesterday, we started flowering the first 18 or so clones that were the right height as greenthumbs site (still) recommends, as well as one of the mommies just because we dont need 6. I know there's nutrient issues, and am keeping just grow/micro/bloom (HUmboldt) on them with calmag and h2o2 nothing else and a lower ppm.

I do think that my grow will help quantify if the strain is having issues, as the seeds were this summers seed purchase direct from the Doc, and we have 16,000 watts of lights to flower with and 1900 watts of veg power or so.

The Endless Sky mommies are the only source of clones right now, we are not flowering any other strains (except a few more grapefruit diesels that are finishing up) for the next few months, so we'll have a few cycles of each to inspect and improve upon.

Within 42-45 days, I'll tell you if the strain sucks or if its nice. :) Will snap some pics later today when I'm at the grow building to do some work.

If it sucks, I've already got other strains that should be in the mailbox today or tomorrow, we'll be making some mommies out of them as our backup and for some flavor. (Bubblelicious, Mmmmm :-))
 
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researchkitty

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Oh, and please play nice with the back and forth, otherwise we have to do that moderating thing which isnt really that much fun.... :) Constructive wins every time! :)
 
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eyeball696

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Nobody ever asked YOU a question. I'm just annoyed by you and your vague unfounded coments, and you spend more line space calling names and trying to sound smart. You go off of other comments and complaints to try to make yourself sound smart.
Go to something your good at. Cause your not good at Endless Sky. Good luck at some other strain
 
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researchkitty

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eyeball696 said:
Nobody ever asked YOU a question. I'm just annoyed by you and your vague unfounded coments, and you spend more line space calling names and trying to sound smart. You go off of other comments and complaints to try to make yourself sound smart.
Go to something your good at. Cause your not good at Endless Sky. Good luck at some other strain
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Its posts like this that help nobody.......... Please keep it polite and constructive :)
 
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SSHZ

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Fair enough Kitty............. and don't go just by looks. As I stated, and my E.S. link in this forum shows- they basically grew out fine. I had no general problems growing it out. BUT, it wouldn't finish properly and the high was just average, maybe a 7/10. Some better, most worse. No taste, no smell too. That's all I'm saying, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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researchkitty

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Thanks SSHZ :) I'm looking forward to a strain change, so frankly anything besides grapefruit diesel will do. :) Its been an interesting road to get these in flower with all the unique comments about lost mommies, nute sensitivity, bad seeds, etc.....

A few grows ago, sometime in 2009 or 2010, I tried some of the greenthumbs Iranian G13's and a few Kushes........ One packet of seeds had trouble germinating if I recall, and greenthumb replaced them free of charge. Despite the weird endless sky drama that nobody seems to confirm or deny that's why I gave his seeds another chance. Come to think of it I never get to talk to the Doc himself, I always talk with his wife and a screaming baby lol.........
 
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eyeball696

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Goto his pricing page. It's not advertised on his strain description page.
They are called Endless Sky (regular)
Would you say that these would be better than the feminized ones?
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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eyeball696 said:
Goto his pricing page. It's not advertised on his strain description page.
They are called Endless Sky (regular)
Would you say that these would be better than the feminized ones?
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Nice find. I called Dr, they are new and werent there a few weeks ago. :) For the price, buy a pack of regulars instead and make your own pollen and more seeds, sell it!
 
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SSHZ

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LOL.......... I love it. The seeds suck and everyone is getting poor results so now we'll expand the version to non-feminized and hope for the best...... LOL
 
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