can someone please offer some help AGAIN

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

just checked on the ladies , im getting PH problems AGAIN !
iv stopped using tap water and im now using bottled water with the following info ... PH down to 5.8 - 6.0 once nutes are added .... cant stop this damage!!!

PH meter is correctly calibrated , growing in coco with hesi nutes ... strain is psycosis (mutant clone pheno from a old northern lights)

Please advise me what to do im at wits end ...

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RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

Anyone ?? i know its not just americans that can answer problems !! wheres all the Euro gardeners ?

City Grower · Sep 30, 2011

What medium are you growing in, soil, hydro....? 5.8 to 6 ph is low if ur in soil.

woodsmaneh! · Sep 30, 2011

Looks like your food is too strong.

echlectica · Sep 30, 2011

First off American weed is the best on Earth (been to Jamaica 13 times and Europe twice), so just remember that.

Now, question: is this affecting the new growth or the old growth? Here is why: when there is a problem it will effect the foliage that is new at the time of the problem. Therefore, as the plant grows you may start to see damage done day or weeks ago that was just not visible to you yet. Consider that.
The problem looks like multiple deficiencies, caused, as you know, by pH imbalance. I'm not too familiar with coco but in other types of hydroponics we want our pH after adding nutes to be around 5.5, it may not seem like a big diference but we're talking about something measured in decimals. a few decimal points can make a huge diference. I am not familiar with your "hesi" nutes is it a true hydroponic fertilizer? even more is it made for coco? If its not formulated for coco that could be your problem.

weave2768 · Sep 30, 2011

stop everything and go with just straight water for 10 days!problem solved!!!

echlectica · Sep 30, 2011

weave2768 said:
stop everything and go with just straight water for 10 days!problem solved!!!

Do not listen to this.

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

echlectica said:
First off American weed is the best on Earth (been to Jamaica 13 times and Europe twice), so just remember that.

Now, question: is this affecting the new growth or the old growth? Here is why: when there is a problem it will effect the foliage that is new at the time of the problem. Therefore, as the plant grows you may start to see damage done day or weeks ago that was just not visible to you yet. Consider that.
The problem looks like multiple deficiencies, caused, as you know, by pH imbalance. I'm not too familiar with coco but in other types of hydroponics we want our pH after adding nutes to be around 5.5, it may not seem like a big diference but we're talking about something measured in decimals. a few decimal points can make a huge diference. I am not familiar with your "hesi" nutes is it a true hydroponic fertilizer? even more is it made for coco? If its not formulated for coco that could be your problem.

no one mentioned american weed ?! Jamaica isnt america ? i said its not just americans that answer questions....

my Hesi nutes are the specific coco ones and are some of the best you can get http://www.hesi.nl/english/index.htm

maybe i need to drop the PH a few more degrees then , its deffo affecting new growth , mostly fan leaves and leaves around the bud sites

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

weave2768 said:
stop everything and go with just straight water for 10 days!problem solved!!!

nice second post .. shame i was pointless and a waste of time ... if the ph is wrong then flushing with the incorrect ph will just cause more problems ... thanks for the reply though

burrr · Sep 30, 2011

What EC are you feeding at, what hesi product are you using? does the ph drift much?

echlectica · Sep 30, 2011

RobbieP said:
no one mentioned american weed ?! Jamaica isnt america ? i said its not just americans that answer questions....

Capitalize America, Americans and America! And no Jamaica is Not part of America. Its in The British West Indies(note British is capitalized out of respect). Assuming your British I would think you'd have known that.

Now a pic of your whole plant would be better than individual leaves. Like I said it could be old damage.

echlectica · Sep 30, 2011

RobbieP said:
, its deffo affecting new growth , mostly fan leaves and leaves around the bud sites

That sounds locked out. Unfortunately it may be time to start over.

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

echlectica said:
Capitalize America, Americans and America! And no Jamaica is Not part of America. Its in The British West Indies(note British is capitalized out of respect). Assuming your British I would think you'd have known that.

Now a pic of your whole plant would be better than individual leaves. Like I said it could be old damage.

i am not a new grower, just new to coco ! 10 years growing in soil so can you please stop talking to me like i dont know what im talking about .
4 weeks into flower so not about to start again as you put it ...
Also whats with the smart alic replies about jamaica? its you that brought it up not me ... you stated americans grow the best weed .. something i never even mentioned then you stated you had been to jamaica upteen times, what that has to do with america im not sure ?? you keep going off point then trying to make out its me ?!?!

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

burrr said:
What EC are you feeding at, what hesi product are you using? does the ph drift much?

Not sure of EC values ... ive been using the whole hesi coco range and following there coco feeding chart , currently just over 4 weeks into flower ...

resinousflowers · Sep 30, 2011

are your plants flowering?it looks like P or k def caused by ph being slightly to high.keep your ph between 5-5-5-8 and use a good fertilizer with a high p n k ratio.but sorting out the ph first is of up most importance.

303 · Sep 30, 2011

RobbieP said:
just checked on the ladies , im getting PH problems AGAIN !
iv stopped using tap water and im now using bottled water with the following info ... PH down to 5.8 - 6.0 once nutes are added .... cant stop this damage!!!

PH meter is correctly calibrated , growing in coco with hesi nutes ... strain is psycosis (mutant clone pheno from a old northern lights)

Please advise me what to do im at wits end ...

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Is this all your feeding? If so I see a lot of things missing, your ph is too low. How about a photo of the whole plant

resinousflowers · Sep 30, 2011

RobbieP said:
Not sure of EC values ... ive been using the whole hesi coco range and following there coco feeding chart , currently just over 4 weeks into flower ...

ive never used hesi coco,but i use hesi for soil.you should never follow their feeding scheldule exactly.you shouldnt give full dose,and you shouldnt feed every time you water.you should flush the coco with water ph'd to no higher than 5.8.check the run off,to see if its coming out too high or low.once youve got the ph stabilized,then feed with half dose coco flowering and half dose coco pk 13/14.maybe a few drops of super vit too.

303 · Sep 30, 2011

I'm hydro, my desired ph is 6.0. I am unfamiliar with coco, but by no means is it a hydroponic method therefore my guess, not fact, would be the ph needs to be more like 6.5. I don't think any method of growing benefits from ph being lower than 5.8 at any given time. My 2cents
I think your plant is starved, and ph is out of balance.

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

resinousflowers said:
ive never used hesi coco,but i use hesi for soil.you should never follow their feeding scheldule exactly.you shouldnt give full dose,and you shouldnt feed every time you water.you should flush the coco with water ph'd to no higher than 5.8.check the run off,to see if its coming out too high or low.once youve got the ph stabilized,then feed with half dose coco flowering and half dose coco pk 13/14.maybe a few drops of super vit too.

thank you resinousflowers ... yes my plants are flowering ... have a look on my journal , id love to have you in for the ride bro

RobbieP · Sep 30, 2011

303 said:
I'm hydro, my desired ph is 6.0. I am unfamiliar with coco, but by no means is it a hydroponic method therefore my guess, not fact, would be the ph needs to be more like 6.5. I don't think any method of growing benefits from ph being lower than 5.8 at any given time. My 2cents
I think your plant is starved, and ph is out of balance.

Coco is actually classed as a hydroponic method ... its kind of classed like hempy buckets , nute free medium ... sort of in between soil and hydro .. all the reading i have done about coco tells you to treat the water and feeds as hydro

can someone please offer some help AGAIN

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