Fuck ron paul ---al awikidickhead is dead

[DSB65]

Kill them all and let allah sort them out

 

[The Ruiner]

They exercised that right when they brought down the WTC.

Exactly. And many people (innocents as well) have paid the price for it. That's why terrorists are COWARDS. What goes around comes around, but on the whole, America must be doing something RIGHT to be as well-placed as we are.

 

[beardo]

Exactly. And many people (innocents as well) have paid the price for it. That's why terrorists are COWARDS. What goes around comes around, but on the whole, America must be doing something RIGHT to be as well-placed as we are.

Because unmanned drones and depleted uranium are ridding the world of terror

 

[The Ruiner]

So why didn't they get him while he was eating at the pentagon?

Because he wasn't put on the "kill or capture" list until 2010. And, he even condemned the 9/11 attacks while at the pentagon...

 

[VTXDave]

Exactly. And many people (innocents as well) have paid the price for it. That's why terrorists are COWARDS. What goes around comes around, but on the whole, America must be doing something RIGHT to be as well-placed as we are.

And the escalation continues....Might makes right.

Gunboat diplomacy breeds hatred and contempt. Until we realize that, we will be hated. I used to think as you did but I think with age comes a bit more wisdom. At 51 years, as a veteran of the US Army, I've seen enough to know that we should stop meddling in the affairs of other nations for the benefit of corporate interests.

 

[The Ruiner]

Because unmanned drones and depleted uranium are ridding the world of terror

They may always be terrorists and cowards willing to endanger the lives of innocents. We do the best we can do. We do more for world stability than ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

 

[VTXDave]

We do the best we can do to protect corporate interests abroad. We do more for world instability than ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD in order to sell more arms, weapons, and to justify our occupation of sovereign nations.

Fixed that for ya.... **grin**

 

[The Ruiner]

And the escalation continues....Might makes right.

Gunboat diplomacy breeds hatred and contempt. Until we realize that, we will be hated. I used to think as you did but I think with age comes a bit more wisdom. At 51 years, as a veteran of the US Army, I've seen enough to know that we should stop meddling in the affairs of other nations for the benefit of corporate interests.

Raising standards of living through corporate investment is the means by which societies emerge into prosperous ones. More times than not, the problem is not with the investment, it is with corrupt individuals taking theirs before the people. It is the duty of those people to hold their leaders accountable. Until they do so, they will continue to suffer at the hand of their own, not any corporation. That is a world-wide rule. It takes organization, unity, and unrelenting will, but it's possible.

Furthermore, we are welcomed into more nations than we have to invade on a dramatic scale, because of the promise of increased standards of living.

 

[The Ruiner]

Fixed that for ya.... **grin**

I won't deny the US has had their hands in some dirty shit, I never would. But, I know now that there is more of it happening internationally than is seen in the press.

 

[beardo]

They may always be terrorists and cowards willing to endanger the lives of innocents. We do the best we can do. We do more for world stability than ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

Were any innocents killed in Yamen? Or Lybia?

 

[Total Head]

What law says that the US can kill people on a whim? What law is that exactly?

shit i swore i wasn't going to be one of those assholes who copies and pastes the same thing in multiple threads but since you asked:

"the law" is as follows:

us code, title 18, part I, chapter 115

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


article 3, section 3 of the us constitution
　

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


i purposely neglected to highlight the parts of interest for fear some might not read the whole thing, but you might want to pay attention to the "2 witnesses to the same overt act" deal. testimony in this case does not require a court, as evident by the inclusion of "open court" when discussing an ourtright confession.

 

[dukeanthony]

You can't "renounce" your citizenship. There is a process for expatriation, its long and very expensive, but until you do it you will ALWAYS be a US Citizen. No matter how much you don't want to be one.

Its Very easy to do
Join a terrorist Organization
Recruit Terrorists
Plan and carry out attacks that Kill Americans

 

[beardo]

shit i swore i wasn't going to be one of those assholes who copies and pastes the same thing in multiple threads but since you asked:

"the law" is as follows:

us code, title 18, part I, chapter 115

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


article 3, section 3 of the us constitution
　

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


i purposely neglected to highlight the parts of interest for fear some might not read the whole thing, but you might want to pay attention to the "2 witnesses to the same overt act" deal. testimony in this case does not require a court, as evident by the inclusion of "open court" when discussing an ourtright confession.

Does this mean a drone strike against occupy wall street would be legal? Communist and socialist party?

 

[VTXDave]

Raising standards of living through corporate investment is the means by which societies emerge into prosperous ones. More times than not, the problem is not with the investment, it is with corrupt individuals taking theirs before the people. It is the duty of those people to hold their leaders accountable. Until they do so, they will continue to suffer at the hand of their own, not any corporation. That is a world-wide rule. It takes organization, unity, and unrelenting will, but it's possible.

So when Jacobo Guzman was DEMOCRATICALLY elected president of Guatemala running on the platform of supporting his people from the exploitation of United Fruit and then subsequently overthrown by the CIA in a coup d'etat, who should be held accountable? The people spoke and elected a leader that would stand for them. Said leader was then deposed by the US government to protect the interests of United Fruit so that Americans could eat cheap bananas.

 

[The Ruiner]

Were any innocents killed in Yamen? Or Lybia?

I would wager. Why? Yemen is either going to be dominated by Saudia Arabia or Al Qaeda, it's really that simple.

Libya, Gaddhafi was just asking for it. And, given the SWIFT ousting of his regime I would say the country was ready. Fuck, how long did the Revolutionary War last? Or even the Sudan conflict in more recent times...perspective homes.

 

[beardo]

shit i swore i wasn't going to be one of those assholes who copies and pastes the same thing in multiple threads but since you asked:

"the law" is as follows:

us code, title 18, part I, chapter 115

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


article 3, section 3 of the us constitution
　

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


i purposely neglected to highlight the parts of interest for fear some might not read the whole thing, but you might want to pay attention to the "2 witnesses to the same overt act" deal. testimony in this case does not require a court, as evident by the inclusion of "open court" when discussing an ourtright confession.

Did you see my response in the other thread?

 

[Total Head]

Did you see my response in the other thread?

i did. it seems as though you have some letters to write to congress.

 

[The Ruiner]

So when Jacobo Guzman was DEMOCRATICALLY elected president of Guatemala running on the platform of supporting his people from the exploitation of United Fruit and then subsequently overthrown by the CIA in a coup d'etat, who should be held accountable? The people spoke and elected a leader that would stand for them. Said leader was then deposed by the US government to protect the interests of United Fruit so that Americans could eat cheap bananas.

Interesting counter to that is that there was already tension, and attempted coups geared towards guzman's predecessor for the same reason that prompted the CIA to act.

Guatemalan military officers, who viewed his government as inefficient, corrupt, and heavily influenced by Communists. At least 25 coup attempts took place during his presidency, mostly led by wealthy conservative military officers.[23][24] During the 1944 revolution, Arana had demanded that he be appointed as the Chief of Staff, in exchange for loyalty to the Arévalo government. However, Arévalo did not trust Arana, and installed Árbenz as the minister of defense, to act as a check on Arana. Over time, tensions rose between Arana and Arévalo, peaking when Arana was mysteriously killed in a Guatemala City gun battle on July 18, 1949, ultimately leading to a failed revolt that was put down by troops led by Árbenz.[

 

[NoDrama]

Its Very easy to do
Join a terrorist Organization
Recruit Terrorists
Plan and carry out attacks that Kill Americans

So join the FBI or CIA then?

 

[NoDrama]

shit i swore i wasn't going to be one of those assholes who copies and pastes the same thing in multiple threads but since you asked:

"the law" is as follows:

us code, title 18, part I, chapter 115

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


article 3, section 3 of the us constitution
　

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


i purposely neglected to highlight the parts of interest for fear some might not read the whole thing, but you might want to pay attention to the "2 witnesses to the same overt act" deal. testimony in this case does not require a court, as evident by the inclusion of "open court" when discussing an ourtright confession.

The US Constitution and specifically amendments 5 and 6 already trump your law and GUARANTEE to every PERSON (not just citizen) accused of a crime the right to a trial by jury. You can have a trial and have 1 person be a witness to the treasonous act and even if the Jury returns a verdict of guilty of treason he CANNOT be convicted for it, because you need 2 Witnesses. The law is difficult to understand since it is written in legalese and jargon most don't understand.

Merriam Webster dictionary defines a citizen as “a person owing allegiance to and entitled to the protection of a sovereign state.”

Black’s Law dictionary defines a citizen as “a person who owes allegiance to, and may claim reciprocal protection from, a government.”

You have to be a Citizen.