Yeah, I think I missed the whole dang seminar on what a women is suppose to do. For instance I never follow aman that is mad around and continue to yell at him, when he's clearly trying to find a spot to cool down. I never ever tease a man all night, including shoving cleavage in his face and then get mad and act offended when he tries something. And then call my boyfriend over and start a fight. Dumb I never ever do name calling or insult his "manhood" even dumber. And no matter what he'd done or what I THINK he's done, personal property is off limits, don't destroy something of theirs, it just makes stuff worse Dumb, dumb, dumb. But I can tell you that this issue has been resolved. When it came time for planting the clones, I talked him into just trying 2 things. One perilyte in the soil and using molasses on this batch. They have already caught up to the mother plants and are looking great. Since the first batch was out of seeds, I had him take all the males from one plant, clones and all and look at the difference in the root mass. The root mass on the clones was almost 3X's that of the plants in his mixture. That pretty much settled that. And unfortunatly although I am able to make suggestions, do watering and some other small stuff, my disablitity keeps me from being able to lift the plants once they are beyond 1 or 2 gallon buckets, so I really couldn't do a competition with him. BUT now I have another question, just my personal observations I'd like some feedback on. I keep seeing CFL grows were the plants look elongated. I've even seen them tying up branches and stuff. Ours look more like regular outside or HID tent grows. Lots of foilage and although growing steady not a lot of room between leaf sets. We are grooming about once a week and removing some of the leaves, but what I'm wondering is are they actually elongating or are they removing much more of the leaves than us and leaving them looking "bare". Both of our CFL lighting rigs are set to be with-in 1-2 inches of the plants. If you want a look check it out under Mynana420, and LamdenMMX. I'm just learning how to use both sights, and am just learning how to upload vid's. Also How do I find my posts here. I've asked another question, but can't find where I posted it?