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420keepitgreen420

420keepitgreen420

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okay lets say ive got a real good girl going and shes bag seed and just started showing signs of sex this morning and im curious to if i stress her the fuck out she will turn hermie and seed up therefor giving me heaps of seeds of the same strain?
 
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Noobface

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Potentially yes. It's a double edged sword and some growers develop their own shit for turning plants hermie, in order to make them pollenate themselves. The bad side is that some plants will give more unstable seeds than others, and individual seeds are supposedly variable in this fashion too, which means they in turn may become hermaphrodites. Big companies go through a lot of effort to stabilize their seeds, but I would expect that there are people around who have a lot of experience in making their own fem seeds and you should definitely get their opinions. I would personally advise only doing this if you can seperate her from any others and keep the grow going. If not, try cuttings I'd say.
 
cannabutt

cannabutt

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I know what you're saying.
I think the red one on saturday is better
but only if the wheels dont fall off........
If they do? It's a No no for me!
But then again if the blue and white goes OK, or the green one is there then happy days!
 
420keepitgreen420

420keepitgreen420

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Noobface said:
Potentially yes. It's a double edged sword and some growers develop their own shit for turning plants hermie, in order to make them pollenate themselves. The bad side is that some plants will give more unstable seeds than others, and individual seeds are supposedly variable in this fashion too, which means they in turn may become hermaphrodites. Big companies go through a lot of effort to stabilize their seeds, but I would expect that there are people around who have a lot of experience in making their own fem seeds and you should definitely get their opinions. I would personally advise only doing this if you can seperate her from any others and keep the grow going. If not, try cuttings I'd say.
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thank you so much for fully answering my question
 
cacamal

cacamal

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I would take cuttings unless you are willing to make some sts spray. pretty easy and you can make gallons of it for about 25 bucks but you will still need to take cuttings to drop pollen on so....
 
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Noobface

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420keepitgreen420 said:
whats sts spray? and im not to good with cuttings they always fail
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Some steps to increase survival rates
1. Clean everything you'll be using... everything! cutting tools, anything the plant comes into contact with, hands are majorly important
2. Ensure a high humidity area is ready for them, if it's makeshift, make sure it is going to work
3. Clones go straight into water, or preferably, straight from the plant into rooting hormones and into your medium, air bubbles are the enemy!
4. Keep a watchful eye on them but don't tamper too much. It's trying to root so it doesn't need you probing it every 10 minutes
 
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Noobface

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Not quite sure what you mean by "put from hormone mix straight into soil" but here's how its done, apply it directly to the bottom of the cutting relatively generously and it will seal off the wounded area, making sure no air gets in, while promoting healthy root growth, then once the hormones are applied get yourself a little hole dug in loose, moist soil and plant her. Remember that while she's rooting she can't take in moisture naturally, so spray them leaves and try to do it during night cycles to prevent light magnification burning her in this fragile state.
 
virulient

virulient

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I would make a fog cloner, and use rockwool cubes. Here is a link of a DIY cloner, very cheap and very easy to make. **https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/466338-my-diy-fog-cloner.html** You can look up a DIY dome cloner, too, if you prefer that method. Giving your cuttings the proper environment will drastically increase your chances of making it. Like people said before, get the cutting in water or rooting hormone/rockwool immediately. Sanitize everything before you start, make a 45 degree angle cut to expose more of the stem. Use rooting GEL not powder, or both, but gel first. Make sure the environment is warm(ideally 77-80°F) with as much humidity as possible(ideally 95%+). Take more cuttings than you need, if some die it won't hurt you. If they all live "donate" your extra babies to another patient or friend. Pick the healthiest 1-2 to make as mother plant(s). You can keep this strain alive without having to grow from seeds down the road. Cloning is very easy, but it takes precision. Good luck, I hope this helps.
 
sso

sso

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you could cut alot of clones while putting the plant back in veg, grow her big again, reflower

this way you can take lot more clones than you need(increase survival odds)

and even if everything goes bad you can reveg the plant after flowering and have another go at everything,
 
420keepitgreen420

420keepitgreen420

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sso said:
you could cut alot of clones while putting the plant back in veg, grow her big again, reflower

this way you can take lot more clones than you need(increase survival odds)

and even if everything goes bad you can reveg the plant after flowering and have another go at everything,
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how do i reveg? or keep in veg (make a mother?)
 
zvuv

zvuv

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Please correct me if I am wrong. I am just figuring this out for myself. But this is what I understand:

Usually when you buy seeds, you are getting something called an F1. The first generation from a stable breeding pair. The breeder has a set of parent plants that always breed true and sells the seeds they produce.

If the F1 seeds are bred together making an F2 generation, they will usually not breed true. Recessive genes will show in some of the offspring. AFAIK there are only a few strains that do breed true. Otherwise it takes generations of inbreeding (back crossing) to stabilize a strain.
 
420keepitgreen420

420keepitgreen420

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zvuv said:
Please correct me if I am wrong. I am just figuring this out for myself. But this is what I understand:

Usually when you buy seeds, you are getting something called an F1. The first generation from a stable breeding pair. The breeder has a set of parent plants that always breed true and sells the seeds they produce.

If the F1 seeds are bred together making an F2 generation, they will usually not breed true. Recessive genes will show in some of the offspring. AFAIK there are only a few strains that do breed true. Otherwise it takes generations of inbreeding (back crossing) to stabilize a strain.
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so i cant just get the nicest fem and male and cross them to stabilizie it?
 
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