My 2 cents on profit for caregivers

Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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Sorry, but it burns me to no end to have people assuming what is and isn't legit Bob. Life and what its to be lived for isn't for any OTHER man to decde, its in the hands of the individual. Furthermore, it shouldn't be held off til the end is near to have options like pot available to you to relief strife in your life and stress mental and physical. You don't tell me what is and isnt' painful or what is or isn't relief. "seriously sick" and "recreational" people all stand to benifit from mental relief and spiritual relief that pot might bring.
 
puffntuff

puffntuff

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I'm an ironworker so the osb ain't shit. I did drywall for a while to and that 5/8 12ft fireboard is heavy compared to osb. But why does it matter what people are charging. If the patient is willing to pay it who cares. If not they can discuss it with their cg or bounce to another cg.
 
Murfy

Murfy

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ever run a 6 horse-

chain saw high on oxy? me neither.
also. don't forget everyone's dose is different. what sits some people down, gets me ready to operate that machine an inch away from that building for 4 hours(hour safety meetings, of course).

so just because my dose isn't your dose, don't be mad.
it's the same with beer. .08 huh? WOW i'm wasted, man.
 
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Organicgold

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bob harris said:
Nope..can't get there. People using that much are just smoking to get stoned. True med patients are seeking better quality of life. If they had to smoke that much for relief, they would find a different medication.
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SO if your in pain 24/7 you should not medicate 24/7. Inhaled cannabis only lasts 1-2 hours...for pain. Once again Ignorant. I don't need to justify their condition or there usage..Its just the truth. I have RA I'm in pain all the time. So I should pop 20 vicodin instead of my natural herb which I cosume about 3-5 grams a day.

Bob you don't clue..you should just stopo now. Just stop.
 
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bob harris

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Cory and trevor said:
Sorry, but it burns me to no end to have people assuming what is and isn't legit Bob. Life and what its to be lived for isn't for any OTHER man to decde, its in the hands of the individual. Furthermore, it shouldn't be held off til the end is near to have options like pot available to you to relief strife in your life and stress mental and physical. You don't tell me what is and isnt' painful or what is or isn't relief. "seriously sick" and "recreational" people all stand to benifit from mental relief and spiritual relief that pot might bring.
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A very nice, 'love and let live " statement....that still avoids any constructive or meaningful input towards the responsible use of medical cannabis.

Show me something...please..that indicates you want anything that helps others keep what small gains we've made by getting medical cannabis voted in.
 
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bob harris

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Organicgold said:
SO if your in pain 24/7 you should not medicate 24/7. Inhaled cannabis only lasts 1-2 hours...for pain. Once again Ignorant. I don't need to justify their condition or there usage..Its just the truth. I have RA I'm in pain all the time. So I should pop 20 vicodin instead of my natural herb which I cosume about 3-5 grams a day.

Bob you don't clue..you should just stopo now. Just stop.
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I'm really well educated..enough so to realize that some one claiming to need 5 grams a day for arthritis is simply using the RA to justify their use of that much cannabis. Yes, a patient with that much pain, needing that much cannabis to get relief..would realistically seek an alternative medication, or combination of medications. to relive that pain. Unless of course, his intention was merely to validate his use of cannabis.
 
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bob harris

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puffntuff said:
I'm an ironworker so the osb ain't shit. I did drywall for a while to and that 5/8 12ft fireboard is heavy compared to osb. But why does it matter what people are charging. If the patient is willing to pay it who cares. If not they can discuss it with their cg or bounce to another cg.
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The reason it should matter is that legislators and law enforcement are looking at how the medical law is being used. If they see responsible use, pricing and business operations. they may actually consider granting more freedoms. If they see partying, profiteering, and an unwillingness for business involved in medical cannabis to act responsibly and be accountable..they will restrict or remove the rights that have been given.


They have given us the garden of eden...why you gotta bite the apple?
 
ismokealotofpot

ismokealotofpot

New Member
bob harris said:
Your simply wrong.

Thcv acts as a primary b1 brain cell REGULATOR..(it's even on your pie chart).regulates neurotransmitter chemicals in the brain...It actually balances the chemicals supporting brain function...Greatly helping Parkinson. Thc and thcv also cause a stimulant effect..reliving the chronic fatigue associated with Parkinson's. As your you quote points out, cbd blocks the effect of euphoria (the reports wording) The "euphoria" is better described as the stimulant effect. Thank's for highlighting neuroprotective defects...Only problem is by the time you are diagnosed with Parkinson"s..The stuff it would be protecting has already been ruined by the disease.

Your quote amounts to wearing a rubber after you get AIDS in hopes it will cure the aids.

don't know where you hand picked your reference...but it sounds like it's from a seed bank pushing Indica's...and I dare say that I have spent a lot more time researching my condition than you have.
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CBD is antispasmodic so is THCA. THCV is antiepileptic
 
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bob harris

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ismokealotofpot said:
CBD is antispasmodic so is THCA. THCV is antiepileptic
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Correct....which is why cbd's, in high concentrations, are not of primary use in most neurological disorders, like epilepsy and Parkinson's. Thca and thcv combine to relive the neurological symptoms, without the need for high cbd's. resulting in a cleaner, less "stoney" medication...allowing for better relief for fatigue and lethargy present in those neurological disorders.

Spasms are muscle reactions caused by muscle/skeletal disorders..Seizures better describes un wanted muscle movement by neurological cause, such as epilepsy and Parkinson's.

Thanks..useful post...
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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bob harris said:
Nope..can't get there. People using that much are just smoking to get stoned. True med patients are seeking better quality of life. If they had to smoke that much for relief, they would find a different medication.
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Well, that was the final nail for my opinion. I was on the fence but now I gotta say, you're a fucking cop or something. You don't belong here Bob.
 
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bob harris

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stumpjumper said:
Well, that was the final nail for my opinion. I was on the fence but now I gotta say, you're a fucking cop or something. You don't belong here Bob.
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Based on the opinion that if a mass dose of cannabis is needed, you should seek a med, or combination of meds, that work better?

In traditional treatment, lets say for pain, if Vicodin isn't working in reasonable dose, they don't just keep increasing the amount of Vicodin. They find a different, stronger medication, or a med that in smaller doses works better with you individual metabolism. Why would cannabis be different?


Id say that at an oz per week, you have probably reached the point where either the strain you are using is wrong, or you should be looking for a med that works better. How is that a "cop" opinion?

My god man, at an oz a week (assuming you smoke it) I'm starting to worry about the effects of that much smoke on your lungs..we don't need copd complicating your condition.

I'm not a cop..I'm concerned for the guys health...
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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Bob, you aren't here because you enjoy sharing stories and talking about growing (everyone here seems to be only here to argue lately) you are doing nothing but turning everyone against each other, trying to cause turmoil within the ranks. There isn't a post that you haven't posted in that hasn't tuned into a big argument. Someone referenced you as being Tony or his cousin, I can see it too. If you had a newer registration date I would just about bet on it. You do seem a lot more intelligent than tony so I'll give you the benefit of a doubt however being compared to tony isn't a good thing Bob.

You're surreptitiously stirring up trouble and you should stop. The quarreling needs to end, yes you keep fueling it.
 
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gotigers0420

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bob harris said:
Correct....which is why cbd's, in high concentrations, are not of primary use in most neurological disorders, like epilepsy and Parkinson's. Thca and thcv combine to relive the neurological symptoms, without the need for high cbd's. resulting in a cleaner, less "stoney" medication...allowing for better relief for fatigue and lethargy present in those neurological disorders.

Spasms are muscle reactions caused by muscle/skeletal disorders..Seizures better describes un wanted muscle movement by neurological cause, such as epilepsy and Parkinson's.



Thanks..useful post...
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Holy Shit, Bobs got Google everyone!!!! Ask him for photos of his "awesome pot man". Straight off Google, just like his quotes.
 
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