animal cruelty, thats fucked up

Hepheastus420

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Not as fucked up as the Chinese kid....
It's not really animal cruelty because if any of those animals come into contact with a child, most likely they will attack to kill....
Although they should put forth there best effort to tranquilize the animals and capture them alive, but it's not like they're killing the animals for fun lol....
 

mrboots

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Not as fucked up as the Chinese kid....
It's not really animal cruelty because if any of those animals come into contact with a child, most likely they will attack to kill....
Although they should put forth there best effort to tranquilize the animals and capture them alive, but it's not like they're killing the animals for fun lol....
They aren't killing them for fun? They haven't tranquilized any of those animals, just shot them all. Cops love to shoot things.

What is really cruel is that anyone is allowed to keep a bunch of exotic animals at their house. With all the laws and regulations in this country it's amazing this is allowed.
 

Hepheastus420

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They aren't killing them for fun? They haven't tranquilized any of those animals, just shot them all. Cops love to shoot things.

What is really cruel is that anyone is allowed to keep a bunch of exotic animals at their house. With all the laws and regulations in this country it's amazing this is allowed.
TREE HUGGER!!!!
lol, just messing with you man....
I said they should have tranquilized the animals....
 

massah

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It's some treehuggers fault...definitely wanted to liberate the animals, but hey look where it got them...one dude dead...and most of the animals dead now...good job PETA loving morons...
 

dam612

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I honestly feel worse for helpless animals then people. Truly sad they are hunting these exotic Animals down instead of working with some local vets to tranq and relocate/find homes for these animals.
 

Hepheastus420

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I honestly feel worse for helpless animals then people. Truly sad they are hunting these exotic Animals down instead of working with some local vets to tranq and relocate/find homes for these animals.
If the bears were invincible (pretty much like we are when it comes to killing animals), don't you think the bears would have people for dinner every night?
The animals say fuck us and I say fuck them....
 

dam612

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If the bears were invincible (pretty much like we are when it comes to killing animals), don't you think the bears would have people for dinner every night?
The animals say fuck us and I say fuck them....
They were here first and from what I've seen we as humans have polluted and destroyed their habitat For our benefit. WE are the true animals
 

Hepheastus420

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They were here first and from what I've seen we as humans have polluted and destroyed their habitat For our benefit. WE are the true animals
We are all animals, we are just way more intelligent then those dumbass bears.. Also do you have any evidence that bears were evolved from their previous species before humans were? Like why do you say they were here first?

And don't you agree that if they were invincible, or stronger than our weapons, they would kill us and eat us? Well why should we care about them? I do admit that we should not keep them as pets, but now they're in our territory, if I see a bear I'm gonna shoot that bitch...
 

dam612

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Homo sapiens arose around 250,000 to 160,000 years ago. The common bear, Genus Ursus (black, grisly, polar and panda) arose around 5million years ago...

To address your other statement; bears are solitary creatures, when confronted with a bear 9/10 they will be spooked by you. Now running away, startling them, or posing a threat to their cubs? Well then yeah your going to be in trouble. If you think bears would partake in human genocide I think you would be highly incorrect.
 

Hepheastus420

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Homo sapiens arose around 250,000 to 160,000 years ago. The common bear, Genus Ursus (black, grisly, polar and panda) arose around 5million years ago...

To address your other statement; bears are solitary creatures, when confronted with a bear 9/10 they will be spooked by you. Now running away, startling them, or posing a threat to their cubs? Well then yeah your going to be in trouble. If you think bears would partake in human genocide I think you would be highly incorrect.
So if a bear comes near us we can shoot to kill.... If a bear comes near me I'm gonna be fucking spooked so I'm gonna shoot that bear. Just like they attack us to kill us....

So are you saying we should not be allowed in there territory because they were here first? That's not right, I'm sure bears go around hunting prey that was there before them...

Can you post a link that shows where you came up with bears being around for 5 million years? I find that hard to believe.
 

dam612

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The earliest members of Ursidae belong to the extinct subfamily Amphicynodontinae, including Parictis (late Eocene to early middle Miocene, 38-18 million years (Ma) ago) and the slightly younger Allocyon (early Oligocene, 34-30 Ma), both from North America. These animals looked very different from today's bears, being small and raccoon-like in overall appearance, and a diet perhaps more similar to that of a badger. Parictis does not appear in Eurasia and Africa until the Miocene.[8] It is unclear whether late Eocene ursids were also present in Eurasia, although faunal exchange across the Bering land bridge may have been possible during a major sea level low stand as early as the late Eocene (~37 Ma) and continuing into the early Oligocene.[9] European genera morphologically very similar to Allocyon, and also the much younger American Kolponomos (~18 Ma), are known from the Oligocene, including Amphicticeps and Amphicynodon.


Plithocyon armagnacensis skull
The raccoon-sized, dog-like Cephalogale is the oldest-known member of the subfamily Hemicyoninae which first appeared during the middle Oligocene in Eurasia ~30 Ma ago. The subfamily also includes the younger genera Phoberocyon (~20-15 Ma), and Plithocyon (~15-7 Ma).

A Cephalogale-like species gave rise to the genus Ursavus during the early Oligocene (30-28 Ma); this genus proliferated into many species in Asia and is ancestral to all living bears. Species of Ursavus subsequently entered North America together with Amphicynodon and Cephalogale during the early Miocene (21-18 Ma).

Members of living lineages of bears diverged from Ursavus ~20 Ma ago, likely via the species Ursavus elmensis. Based on genetic and morphological data, the subfamily Ailuropodinae (pandas) was the first to diverge from other living bears ~19 Ma ago, although no fossils of this group have been found pre-dating about 5 Ma.[10]

The New World short-faced bears (Tremarctinae) differentiated from Ursinae following a dispersal event into North America during the mid Miocene (~13 Ma).[10] They invaded South America (~1 Ma) following formation of the Isthmus of Panama.[11] Their earliest fossil representative is Plionarctos in North America (~10-2 Ma). This genus is probably the direct ancestor to the North American short-faced bears (genus Arctodus), the South American short-faced bears (Arctotherium), and the spectacled bears, Tremarctos, represented by both an extinct North American species (T. floridanus), and the lone surviving representative of the Tremarctinae, the South American spectacled bear (T. ornatus).


Fossil of Cave bear (Ursus spelaeus)
The subfamily Ursinae experienced a dramatic proliferation of taxa ~5.3-4.5 Ma ago coincident with major environmental changes, with the first members of the genus Ursus also appearing around this time.[10] The sloth bear is a modern survivor of one of the earliest lineages to diverge during this radiation event (~5.3 Ma); it took on its peculiar morphology related to its diet on termites and ants no later than by the early Pleistocene. By 3-4 Ma ago, the species Ursus minimus appears in the fossil record of Europe, which apart from size is nearly identical to today's Asiatic black bear. It is likely ancestral to all bears within Ursinae, perhaps aside from the sloth bear. Two lineages evolved from U. minimus, the black bears (including the sun bear, the Asiatic black bear, and the American black bear), and the brown bears. Modern brown bears evolved from U. minimus via Ursus etruscus, which itself is ancestral to both the extinct Pleistocene cave bear and today's brown and polar bears. Species of Ursinae have migrated repeatedly into N. America from Eurasia as early as 4 Ma ago during the early Pliocene.[12]

The fossil record of bears is exceptionally good. Direct ancestor-descendent relationships between individual species are often fairly well established, with sufficient intermediate forms known to make the precise cut-off between an ancestral and its daughter species subjective.[13]
 

jonblaze420

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they don't have the money or the care facilities for the animals so they have to shoot them.

sad that a guy stuck all those different animals together in his yard.
 

jonblaze420

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Homo sapiens arose around 250,000 to 160,000 years ago. The common bear, Genus Ursus (black, grisly, polar and panda) arose around 5million years ago...

To address your other statement; bears are solitary creatures, when confronted with a bear 9/10 they will be spooked by you. Now running away, startling them, or posing a threat to their cubs? Well then yeah your going to be in trouble. If you think bears would partake in human genocide I think you would be highly incorrect.
Most of the time.

Did you ever see the movie The Edge? There's some bears that are maneaters and will hunt yas.
 

tet1953

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Just heard on CNN that they found the owner's body outside his house. Evidently he freed all the animals then shot himself.
 

Hepheastus420

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The earliest members of Ursidae belong to the extinct subfamily Amphicynodontinae, including Parictis (late Eocene to early middle Miocene, 38-18 million years (Ma) ago) and the slightly younger Allocyon (early Oligocene, 34-30 Ma), both from North America. These animals looked very different from today's bears, being small and raccoon-like in overall appearance, and a diet perhaps more similar to that of a badger. Parictis does not appear in Eurasia and Africa until the Miocene.[8] It is unclear whether late Eocene ursids were also present in Eurasia, although faunal exchange across the Bering land bridge may have been possible during a major sea level low stand as early as the late Eocene (~37 Ma) and continuing into the early Oligocene.[9] European genera morphologically very similar to Allocyon, and also the much younger American Kolponomos (~18 Ma), are known from the Oligocene, including Amphicticeps and Amphicynodon.


Plithocyon armagnacensis skull
The raccoon-sized, dog-like Cephalogale is the oldest-known member of the subfamily Hemicyoninae which first appeared during the middle Oligocene in Eurasia ~30 Ma ago. The subfamily also includes the younger genera Phoberocyon (~20-15 Ma), and Plithocyon (~15-7 Ma).

A Cephalogale-like species gave rise to the genus Ursavus during the early Oligocene (30-28 Ma); this genus proliferated into many species in Asia and is ancestral to all living bears. Species of Ursavus subsequently entered North America together with Amphicynodon and Cephalogale during the early Miocene (21-18 Ma).

Members of living lineages of bears diverged from Ursavus ~20 Ma ago, likely via the species Ursavus elmensis. Based on genetic and morphological data, the subfamily Ailuropodinae (pandas) was the first to diverge from other living bears ~19 Ma ago, although no fossils of this group have been found pre-dating about 5 Ma.[10]

The New World short-faced bears (Tremarctinae) differentiated from Ursinae following a dispersal event into North America during the mid Miocene (~13 Ma).[10] They invaded South America (~1 Ma) following formation of the Isthmus of Panama.[11] Their earliest fossil representative is Plionarctos in North America (~10-2 Ma). This genus is probably the direct ancestor to the North American short-faced bears (genus Arctodus), the South American short-faced bears (Arctotherium), and the spectacled bears, Tremarctos, represented by both an extinct North American species (T. floridanus), and the lone surviving representative of the Tremarctinae, the South American spectacled bear (T. ornatus).


Fossil of Cave bear (Ursus spelaeus)
The subfamily Ursinae experienced a dramatic proliferation of taxa ~5.3-4.5 Ma ago coincident with major environmental changes, with the first members of the genus Ursus also appearing around this time.[10] The sloth bear is a modern survivor of one of the earliest lineages to diverge during this radiation event (~5.3 Ma); it took on its peculiar morphology related to its diet on termites and ants no later than by the early Pleistocene. By 3-4 Ma ago, the species Ursus minimus appears in the fossil record of Europe, which apart from size is nearly identical to today's Asiatic black bear. It is likely ancestral to all bears within Ursinae, perhaps aside from the sloth bear. Two lineages evolved from U. minimus, the black bears (including the sun bear, the Asiatic black bear, and the American black bear), and the brown bears. Modern brown bears evolved from U. minimus via Ursus etruscus, which itself is ancestral to both the extinct Pleistocene cave bear and today's brown and polar bears. Species of Ursinae have migrated repeatedly into N. America from Eurasia as early as 4 Ma ago during the early Pliocene.[12]

The fossil record of bears is exceptionally good. Direct ancestor-descendent relationships between individual species are often fairly well established, with sufficient intermediate forms known to make the precise cut-off between an ancestral and its daughter species subjective.[13]
What the hell are "ma's"? Lol.

Also you said common bears like grizzly bears came 5 million years ago... Not some crazy ancestor....
 

dam612

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Sheesh your either stupid or very ignorant- MA=million years ago.
I'll go an bold the area of interest for you.
Google this directly "bear genus ursus" you will see that when I first stated I said that the bears of your interest were of genus ursus-The common bears we see today: black, browns (Kodiak, grizzly) and polar bear

With that said I will stop feeding into your trolling nature
 
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