Pro Grow LED Run #1, Super Cali Haze, Onyx, Blackbriar, and Blue Diesel

[hoss12781]

I can do you one better than pics man, the guy has videos! Haha still not too sure if I believe it is an auto or just a photo plant doing a normal reveg. Here's the link in any case though: http://www.autoflower.net/forums/f5/how-regenerate-autoflower-2818.html

And btw getting a triploid is awesome! you should try and breed the trait, you'll end up with three bud sites around the plant instead of two opposite each other. Theoretically you can get 50% more yield this way, but I'd guess that maybe 20% more would be realistic.

Laughed my ass off at the first video (I'm on AFNet too so could see all the links) - He weighs it wet on a weight watchers scale. He also uses the same scissors I do to harvest.

I suppose it is possible to re-gen an auto but from the looks of the video - not very efficient for what you'll ultimately glean. He said it took three weeks after harvest to get some tiny nodes to form - by that time any decent gardener could have a new auto sprouted from seed getting ready to jump into full blown flower mode.

Although I won't be trying this at home, I do appreciate the link man. Thanks again.

 

[KawiZZR]

Np, I thought it was just kinda quirky and interesting that someone took the time to do it and that's what it ended up with. If you don't wanna risk losing a harvest making seeds you could reveg one plant after harvest and use the silver then?

 

[hoss12781]

Look at the big brain on KawiZZR! That is a fantastic idea and what will be done with one of these fems. Thank you.

 

[Shwagbag]

I've also read that you can force hermie with a serires of light cycle changes that stress the female and germinate another flowering female with the pollen to make feminized seeds. From what I understand the seeds are feminized with minimal risk (as you get with fem seeds) of being hermie. I've never tried it but I have read of people claiming to have done it successfully like this. Theoretically this could be done as an experiment with minimal risk since you could probably keep the amount of pollen to a minimum. I will be interested to see how your experiment works with the silver, do it do it! For humanity lol.

 

[hoss12781]

not my grow but the strain I made. Gave a friend who usually grows photo outdoor a ton of Black Briar seeds. I don't grow outside but wanted to see if he could use them to get two harvests in this season. He did and it turned out rather well for outdoor. Also very cool of my friend to share. Will update my current run on Friday. Cheers!

 

[hoss12781]

I've also read that you can force hermie with a serires of light cycle changes that stress the female and germinate another flowering female with the pollen to make feminized seeds. From what I understand the seeds are feminized with minimal risk (as you get with fem seeds) of being hermie. I've never tried it but I have read of people claiming to have done it successfully like this. Theoretically this could be done as an experiment with minimal risk since you could probably keep the amount of pollen to a minimum. I will be interested to see how your experiment works with the silver, do it do it! For humanity lol.

For Humanity's sake I'm on it.

 

[KawiZZR]

Look at the big brain on KawiZZR! That is a fantastic idea and what will be done with one of these fems. Thank you.

If it works out for you then I might do it this winter with a couple of fem Mi5 seeds I've got left. What would you say is your favorite auto you've grown so far?

I've also read that you can force hermie with a serires of light cycle changes that stress the female and germinate another flowering female with the pollen to make feminized seeds. From what I understand the seeds are feminized with minimal risk (as you get with fem seeds) of being hermie. I've never tried it but I have read of people claiming to have done it successfully like this. Theoretically this could be done as an experiment with minimal risk since you could probably keep the amount of pollen to a minimum. I will be interested to see how your experiment works with the silver, do it do it! For humanity lol.

Yeah pollen can be tricky to work with, gotta make sure to have that plant separate and always work with it last. Even if you do it's a good idea to clean out both grow areas after with some bleach water to kill any left over pollen in the area. Grumpy Old Dreamer on here uses the silver method with good results, his threads are a good read if looking to kill some time and learn a lil.

 

[hoss12781]

My favorite auto, that's a tough one. My favorite indica dom strain has def been the smurfberry it really knocks you for a loop a highly narcotic smoke. Favorite sativa dom is probably auto assassin, although I have "high" hopes for the Super Sativa from Big Buddah I just planted. My favorite blends are MI-5 and Blackbriar (since I made it, but it really does smoke well).

The only autos I'd say I've been upset with in terms of potency have been Fast Bud V1 from Sweet Seeds, Joint Dr.'s original lowryder, and both the Blue and Blue Him Diesels from Short Stuff. The Super Cali Haze was also a big batch of fail. I hate to shit on Short Stuff though, some of their strains are straight home runs in my opinion. Being such a big fan of several of their strains I've grown everything they currently have on the market. I just really didn't like the ones I mentioned above.

 

[KawiZZR]

Who was the smurfberry by? I like the Mi5 and do them on the side under cfls but wouldn't mind getting a second or third strain and making autos my staple in grows next year. Doing one more photo grow this winter then probably going to make the switch to all autos for a bit.

 

[hoss12781]

Sagarmatha seeds, its on the only one of their strains I've grown but was very happy with it and will look to give them a whirl again. They were expensive seeds, but popped 100% and were worth it. The Caramel from Sweet seeds is pretty good too. Speaking of which, might as well go ahead and update with pics while I'm killin time. Here is Caramel at somewhere around 3 weeks old, as well as the super sativa and black jack sprouts. As I wait patiently for my fourth plant (la bella afrodita seed) to pop ground the caramel is getting a double dose of lighting right now with the 250 on top and a 180 working the side.

 

[hoss12781]

Who was the smurfberry by? I like the Mi5 and do them on the side under cfls but wouldn't mind getting a second or third strain and making autos my staple in grows next year. Doing one more photo grow this winter then probably going to make the switch to all autos for a bit.

With you on that sentiment man. I used to grow all photos, screwed around with some original lowryder, was not a fan but am glad I gave autos another shot. They've really come a long way since their inception.

 

[KawiZZR]

Sagarmatha seeds, its on the only one of their strains I've grown but was very happy with it and will look to give them a whirl again. They were expensive seeds, but popped 100% and were worth it. The Caramel from Sweet seeds is pretty good too. Speaking of which, might as well go ahead and update with pics while I'm killin time. Here is Caramel at somewhere around 3 weeks old, as well as the super sativa and black jack sprouts. As I wait patiently for my fourth plant (la bella afrodita seed) to pop ground the caramel is getting a double dose of lighting right now with the 250 on top and a 180 working the side.

With you on that sentiment man. I used to grow all photos, screwed around with some original lowryder, was not a fan but am glad I gave autos another shot. They've really come a long way since their inception.

I'll check them out when I finally decide to order some more seeds, might get a few different strains then just do a big seed run of each strain and go from there. The caramel has a really nice structure to it, that's a 2 gallon bag? I agree they've come a long way, some of the newer strains sound awesome.

 

[hoss12781]

actually its a 5 gallon smart pot. Used 3 gal on the last run and found it was getting crowded in the root area during the last couple weeks this may have prevented me from achieving maximum yield so I went ahead and upgraded to 5 gallons. With you on experimenting too. Check out the single seed centre, that's where I picked up my latest order. They'll let you pick and mix single seeds from different banks. You pay a small premium for this service (still cheaper than The Attitude) but its pretty cool to get to try a ton of different strains.

 

[Shwagbag]

Sorry to barge in but talking genetics.... If you like combo packs here is one from Sannies that I would recommend.

http://www.sanniesshop.com/feminized-seed-mix.html

I've done both Shackzilla and Killing Fields, both are very good. Flowering period is long on KF but I found it to be worth the wait if you like sativas. I haven't tried the Sugar Punch but it came personally recommended by Sannie and i will be getting some when I order again.

 

[hoss12781]

That's actually a really good deal. I've considered doing a split grow in the not too distant future. I've done it before but its been a minute. By that I mean have two photo periods veggin out big time while two autos are running on a 23-1 light cycle. After 7-9 weeks harvest the autos and flip to 12/12 concentrating all my lighting on the photos for the next 7-9 weeks. Thanks for the link man.

 

[KawiZZR]

actually its a 5 gallon smart pot. Used 3 gal on the last run and found it was getting crowded in the root area during the last couple weeks this may have prevented me from achieving maximum yield so I went ahead and upgraded to 5 gallons. With you on experimenting too. Check out the single seed centre, that's where I picked up my latest order. They'll let you pick and mix single seeds from different banks. You pay a small premium for this service (still cheaper than The Attitude) but its pretty cool to get to try a ton of different strains.

How much does it look like the bigger pot will influence growth or is it not far enough in to tell? I've had bad experiences with plants getting rootbound too. First time I did an Mi5 I used a 2L soda bottle with the top cut off haha plant ended up only yielding 12g.

Sorry to barge in but talking genetics.... If you like combo packs here is one from Sannies that I would recommend.

I've done both Shackzilla and Killing Fields, both are very good. Flowering period is long on KF but I found it to be worth the wait if you like sativas. I haven't tried the Sugar Punch but it came personally recommended by Sannie and i will be getting some when I order again.

Do either single seed centre or sannies take money orders? I'm wary about paying for seeds or anything grow specific with credit card.

That's actually a really good deal. I've considered doing a split grow in the not too distant future. I've done it before but its been a minute. By that I mean have two photo periods veggin out big time while two autos are running on a 23-1 light cycle. After 7-9 weeks harvest the autos and flip to 12/12 concentrating all my lighting on the photos for the next 7-9 weeks. Thanks for the link man.

Lol those must've been some big plants by the time you finished flowering them! What light cycles have you tried with autos so far?

 

[hoss12781]

Pot size def influences overall yield with autos (unless you just wind up with a tiny pheno). But from what I've seen 3 gallon pots are good enough to grow an auto that will yield an oz plus. I felt like at the end of my last grow with the Caramel and Smurfberry that final flowering was a bit hindered in the 3 gallon pots. They were def rootbound when I pulled everything up after the fact. This led me to try the 5 gallon this time. Don't know how much it will effect it as I still was able to get 61g off the smurf, but we'll see.

Not sure about money orders. I used my CC which leads me to believe you could probably use a pre paid visa or something like that. When in doubt shoot them an email from a burner email account.

On the split grow - you betcha. Veg out a photo period for 8 weeks then turn it loose on 12/12 once the autos are done and you'll wind up with some massive plants. Last time I did it I had 2 huge photos (Khola from Dutch Passion seeds). I gave each one its own 400w hps and its own side of the closet which wound up being a smart move as they pretty much filled the whole damn thing out. The yield was also very nice. Can't recall specifics but I remember one of them getting me close to a qp.

Concerning light cycles on autos - I used to do 18/6 with hps to save a bit of electricty, but found I got better yields and tighter nuggets when I switched to 21/3. Now that the electricity consumption isn't as bad as it once was I keep my lights on 23 hours a day with the leds. I'm of the opinion you have to give any kind of plant some time to rest every 24 hours, even if its only an hour.

 

[Shwagbag]

Do either single seed centre or sannies take money orders? I'm wary about paying for seeds or anything grow specific with credit card.

Not sure about that, but I don't blame you. Sannie is creative the way he processes your CC though

 

[hoss12781]

the charge on my cc from single seed centre was 'nicey nice'.

 

[hoss12781]

Here we are at about 4 weeks on the caramel, I've been trimming heavily and she keeps responding with the node growth I want. Been adding full doses of cal mag and up till now 1/2 doses of tiger bloom (just switched to full as of today). I have four up now, the bella afrodita decided to show herself. She's at about a week, the other babies somewhere between one and two. I haven't done a good job of date tracking on this run since the males really put a kink in my calendar. The three leaved freak is the black jack - the one that looks like a sativa is the super sativa from big buddah seeds.

So far 100% germination rate from single seed centre. I'll have to get more Barney's pineapple express as I traded one seed to my buddy for a fem santa seed, the other was sprouted and I made the decision to gift the baby sprout to another friend who will in turn give me back some at harvest time. Got anxious when the bella afrodita wasn't sprouting and put a P.E. in the peat pots. As luck would have it two days later both popped.

I refuse to have more than four plants at any given time in my garden as the difference between 4 and 5 plants in terms of state law is massive in my neck of the woods.