Is Columbian Gold a Pure Sativa ?

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ogreballerina

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I know someone who grows a strain called Colombian Gold only during the summer.( Outdoors)

He said it is not an indoor plant at all. And he said it was a pure stavia strain..non of this wishy washy cross bred stuff you see today ( His words)

He gets his seeds directly from Columbia...

He has been growing since the 60s and knows what he is doing...

His Blue Dream is insane...!!!

But his Gold is worthy of the Ganja gods...

The high is almost psychedelic and trippy ...and makes you feel so energetic and giggly..lol ( Like you downed a keg of Red Bull )...and it lasts for hours....excellent smoke. ( Has a deep woodsy,piney,grapey, mango taste...hard to describe....but very smooth and tasty)
Definitely one hit stuff....
And it does live up to it's name of being Gold...I have never seen weed that color...not brown or tan...but gold...

But from reading forums etc it says that most weed today is a combination of sativa and indica.....is that due to all the cross breeding?

Are there any pure strains left for sale in the world ?

He has gotten his seeds from the same source for over 20 years....

I prefer sativas....and am finding it almost impossible to find a indoor pure sativa.
Right now I'm growing a Super Silver and a Lemon Haze as these are reputed to be 80% sativa..

Everything is labeled 70% sativa and 30% Indica or vice versa. ( On line seed companies, local dispenaries etc)

Even GHS doesn't offer a pure sativa....

He gave me 2 seeds this year....and he never gives away ( or sells) his seeds....known him for 16 years. ( And I have asked...no begged him many times for some...and the answer was always no..but this last visit before I left he gave me 2 seeds )

I have room in a vegetable garden this year...thinking of trying them out.

He did say they can grow to 12 feet high or more..( He has a picture of his 3 year old hanging from one of the lower branches of a plant.. I thought it was tree at first!!!)..and not be ready until October or even into November...

Are there any pure strains left in the world...?

GHS goes around the world gathering seeds but then they always cross bred them with something else....

Knowing my luck they will both be males...
 
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secondmesa

Member
ogreballerina said:
I know someone who grows a strain called Colombian Gold only during the summer.( Outdoors)

He said it is not an indoor plant at all. And he said it was a pure stavia strain..non of this wishy washy cross bred stuff you see today ( His words)

He gets his seeds directly from Columbia...

He has been growing since the 60s and knows what he is doing...

His Blue Dream is insane...!!!

But his Gold is worthy of the Ganja gods...

The high is almost psychedelic and trippy ...and makes you feel so energetic and giggly..lol ( Like you downed a keg of Red Bull )...and it lasts for hours....excellent smoke. ( Has a deep woodsy,piney,grapey, mango taste...hard to describe....but very smooth and tasty)
Definitely one hit stuff....
And it does live up to it's name of being Gold...I have never seen weed that color...not brown or tan...but gold...

But from reading forums etc it says that most weed today is a combination of sativa and indica.....is that due to all the cross breeding?

Are there any pure strains left for sale in the world ?

He has gotten his seeds from the same source for over 20 years....

I prefer sativas....and am finding it almost impossible to find a indoor pure sativa.
Right now I'm growing a Super Silver and a Lemon Haze as these are reputed to be 80% sativa..

Everything is labeled 70% sativa and 30% Indica or vice versa. ( On line seed companies, local dispenaries etc)

Even GHS doesn't offer a pure sativa....

He gave me 2 seeds this year....and he never gives away ( or sells) his seeds....known him for 16 years. ( And I have asked...no begged him many times for some...and the answer was always no..but this last visit before I left he gave me 2 seeds )

I have room in a vegetable garden this year...thinking of trying them out.

He did say they can grow to 12 feet high or more..( He has a picture of his 3 year old hanging from one of the lower branches of a plant.. I thought it was tree at first!!!)..and not be ready until October or even into November...

Are there any pure strains left in the world...?

GHS goes around the world gathering seeds but then they always cross bred them with something else....

Knowing my luck they will both be males...
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How did you get on with the seeds?
 
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growone

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usually skeptical when i read threads about columbian gold - but what you describe is very similar to the gold that was around in the mid 70's
and gold described it well, i'd never seen its like before(or since, for that matter) - so this is interesting
 
mouthmeetsoap

mouthmeetsoap

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What is interesting to me is that even if the Colombian Gold of old was the best strain on the planet when it was around, the strains we have now are more potent than ever before. I'd think even a Colombian Gold from the 70s wouldn't be much nowadays compared with the 20%+ THC strains we've got going now.
 
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growone

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mouthmeetsoap said:
What is interesting to me is that even if the Colombian Gold of old was the best strain on the planet when it was around, the strains we have now are more potent than ever before. I'd think even a Colombian Gold from the 70s wouldn't be much nowadays compared with the 20%+ THC strains we've got going now.
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if talking about raw power, then you are right(maybe, it's in the eye of the perceiver)
but it was a very nice feeling mj - if seeds like this were offered for sale, a lot of buyers would show up - provided they were convinced it was old time CG
 
Jogro

Jogro

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mouthmeetsoap said:
What is interesting to me is that even if the Colombian Gold of old was the best strain on the planet when it was around, the strains we have now are more potent than ever before. I'd think even a Colombian Gold from the 70s wouldn't be much nowadays compared with the 20%+ THC strains we've got going now.
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I think you'd be surprised at its potency.

First of all, you can take some pretty middling schwagg, and with a little bit of rubbing and pressing, turn it into hashish more powerful than ANY marijuana, period. Hash has been around for literally thousands of years. meaning stuff more powerful than any super-duper modern chronic/skunk/haze/diesel/kush/dutch-superstrain has also been around for thousands of years.

So the idea that there has never been a cannabis product more powerful than today's super-strains is just false on its face. In much of the world, and for centuries, the norm is to smoke hashish more powerful than ordinary marijuana.

Next, and more important, cannabis is one of the oldest plants cultivated by man. Its literally been in cultivation for thousands of years, for all of recorded human history, on various continents. Its also been selectively bred for all of that time, and its been commercially grown for centuries.

Given what has to amount to cumulatively tens or hundreds of thousands of breeding cycles, by tens of thousands of growers (may of whose livelihoods depended on the quality of their crops) over 30+ human generations, with most looking to maximize potency and yields, you'd expect that by as recently as just ONE generation ago (ie the 1970s) breeders somewhere on the planet would have either achieved the plants maximum genetic potential or come pretty close.

Lastly if you just go back a relatively short period of time, many of the modern super-strains contain genetics than can be traced right back to Columbian Gold.

In particular, the original famous Skunk #1 (which is the parent strain of all the modern "Cheese" strains, just about everything with "skunk" in its name, and many other modern hybrids) was itself comprised of Columbian and Mexican gold sativa strains hybridized to Afghani indica. The idea was to take something with the potency of the Columbian, the hardiness of the Mexican, and the fast maturing time of the Afghani to create something with best of all world.s

While I don't doubt that there probably are strains available now that are somewhat more potent than the best 70s era Columbian gold in absolute terms, the Columbian is still probably better than most of the stuff in the seedbanks, and I doubt it would embarrass itself in a "Pepsi challenge".

Well, apart from its relative scarcity (or perhaps total unavailability) the biggest practical problem with the Columbian as a modern strain isn't lack of potency, its that as an heirloom Sativa strain from equatorial South America. To really get the best from the strain requires growing conditions that really aren't easily replicated elsewhere.
 
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Toss&Turn

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When I began selling marijuana in 1973, I was selling Columbian Gold. It was a golden color weed that was very potent and had a plethora of seeds. I sold it for $45/ounce. Regular "Bo" was going for $25/ounce. With today's knowledge of sensimilla, that smoke would truly be a medicinal herb. The 1970's Columbian Gold was called one-draw McGraw. The new gold would be A-Bomb!

T&T
 
potpimp

potpimp

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Young people are always bringing up the THC content. "Back in the day" Columbian was my #1 favorite. Nobody questioned or tried to quantify the THC because one toke and you were toasted; about 6 tokes and you were fucking tripping your brains out; I shit you not. You can buy landrace seeds of Columbian; I think a Canadian company has them but do NOT send them cash!! I sent off for some Columbian seeds two years ago, sent them $50 cash and they said they never received the money. Yeah right. They do get very tall and lanky, can get over 20' tall in the tropics. People that compare pure sativas to indicas are just plain idiots.
 
Dizzle Frost

Dizzle Frost

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potpimp said:
Young people are always bringing up the THC content. "Back in the day" Columbian was my #1 favorite. Nobody questioned or tried to quantify the THC because one toke and you were toasted; about 6 tokes and you were fucking tripping your brains out; I shit you not. You can buy landrace seeds of Columbian; I think a Canadian company has them but do NOT send them cash!! I sent off for some Columbian seeds two years ago, sent them $50 cash and they said they never received the money. Yeah right. They do get very tall and lanky, can get over 20' tall in the tropics. People that compare pure sativas to indicas are just plain idiots.
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no doubt! i wish some of these were still around to shut some people up lol ...i can honestly say the highest ive ever been was "back in the day" the old Columbians and Thai's are unmatched IMO
 
vilify

vilify

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pures are out there.
currently growing 100% indica. hindu kush.
been debating on picking up greenhouse seeds green thai. pure sativa, 14 weeks flowering.

gl with the columbian
 
potpimp

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
Dizzle Frost said:
no doubt! i wish some of these were still around to shut some people up lol ...i can honestly say the highest ive ever been was "back in the day" the old Columbians and Thai's are unmatched IMO
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That is absolutely true Drizzle. I used to get so fucked up on Colombian, and Jamaican, that I would trip as if I were on acid. I'm talking trails, auditory hallucinations and even comic book page looking visuals. I don't know why but there is sooooooooo much bullshit about cannabis. I suppose if I had not had LOTS of personal experience with pot back then I would not know the truth.
 
Dizzle Frost

Dizzle Frost

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potpimp said:
That is absolutely true Drizzle. I used to get so fucked up on Colombian, and Jamaican, that I would trip as if I were on acid. I'm talking trails, auditory hallucinations and even comic book page looking visuals. I don't know why but there is sooooooooo much bullshit about cannabis. I suppose if I had not had LOTS of personal experience with pot back then I would not know the truth.
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Thats a good way to put it! acid! man i remeber jus sittin there all fucked up and watching people cigarette trails ....thats the shit that used to rip people right out..some space shit
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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mouthmeetsoap said:
What is interesting to me is that even if the Colombian Gold of old was the best strain on the planet when it was around, the strains we have now are more potent than ever before. I'd think even a Colombian Gold from the 70s wouldn't be much nowadays compared with the 20%+ THC strains we've got going now.
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You, like so very many others, have fallen for the myth. Strains did not become a lot more potent. The way pot was tested for THC changed and the result was the appearance of a much higher percentage of THC.

Here is an example of an Afghani strain tested using the old method of testing and the newer method of testing.

Newer method: THC Level: 21.6% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids.

Old method: 7.4% measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: amino-acids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids

(determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)

Another example of what is surely a fake Colombian Gold

Newer method: THC Level: 19.3% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids.

Older method: 7.8% measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: aminoacids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids
(determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)


Did you notice how a strain tested using the old method of testing (cannabinoids only) registered 21.6% THC but when the very same strain was tested using the old method the THC level was only 7.4%? Did you notice how a strain tested using the old method of testing (cannabinoids only) registered 19.3% THC but when the very same strain was tested using the old method the THC level was only 7.8%?

Need another?

Newer method: THC Level: 17.7% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids.

Old method: 5.9% measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: aminoacids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids

(determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)

'Nuff said?
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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Thanks bricktop, good info. I'd been wondering why many of these 'super strains' aren't all they're cracked up to be, these days. Yes, many are really good, but the advertisers have alot of us fooled into looking at the high THC numbers, and thinking we're gonna get higher than we ever thought possible, after harvest.lol Granted, I know there's alot to be said about getting the full potential out of a strain, but here's an example I've ran into....

I chose Ice, as my strain, after reading about it's 20+% THC content, being a Cup winner, blah, blah, blah... Now holy fuck, me thinking it was judged as the best weed in the world, was expected to be floored, along with my buddies. I'm not claiming to be a growgod, but I can hold my own, and i had a few really good runs, and genuineally expected more potency. It was quality stuff, but I'm at a loss, as to what strain to choose, when searching for some 'holy fuck' smoke. Sounds like a proven pure sativa, might be the way to go? I've been avoiding it, due to the entended flowering times, but it seems to me, that there might be some good stuff going on, during those extra 4-6 weeks.....
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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jawbrodt said:
Thanks bricktop, good info. I'd been wondering why many of these 'super strains' aren't all they're cracked up to be, these days. Yes, many are really good, but the advertisers have alot of us fooled into looking at the high THC numbers, and thinking we're gonna get higher than we ever thought possible, after harvest.lol Granted, I know there's alot to be said about getting the full potential out of a strain, but here's an example I've ran into....

I chose Ice, as my strain, after reading about it's 20+% THC content, being a Cup winner, blah, blah, blah... Now holy fuck, me thinking it was judged as the best weed in the world, was expected to be floored, along with my buddies. I'm not claiming to be a growgod, but I can hold my own, and i had a few really good runs, and genuineally expected more potency. It was quality stuff, but I'm at a loss, as to what strain to choose, when searching for some 'holy fuck' smoke. Sounds like a proven pure sativa, might be the way to go? I've been avoiding it, due to the entended flowering times, but it seems to me, that there might be some good stuff going on, during those extra 4-6 weeks.....
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I smoked more potent bud in the late 60's and the 70's than I find from professional breeders today. What they gave us was variety, a different high/stone combination than could be found in land-race strains. But they did not give us super-strains. That is all marketing hooey that sadly MANY have swallowed hook line and sinker.

The puppy tokers were not even swimming around in their old man's nutsack yet when I was toking pot my brother in law brought home from Vietnam in 1969. They have no conception of what strains like that were like. They never experienced 'the jungle kind.' They have read how pot of the olden days was weak compared to modern strains, but they have no idea that the testing method was changed from how pot was tested for THC in the olden days, or how if modern strains were tested in the same way they would not test out higher than the strain from the past. They want to believe they are smoking the most potent pot ever. Because of that they seldom, if ever, believe it when they are told that the high grade strains of the past (not all strains, just the high grade strains) were killer and would send them home crying to their mammas if they smoked some.

I've seen hardened party commandos climb into a bed after taking two or three hits of 'the jungle kind' because they were to high. Just days before my brother in law married my sister I was at his apartment and I did two hits of what he brought home from Vietnam and I thought I was in my house sitting on my couch watching my TV and petting my dog. It wasn't until I got up and walked into a closet thinking it was my bathroom that I realized where I was, and that I had been calling his dog by my dog's name.

At times I feel very lucky that I was able to experience the Golden Era of Cannabis. And at times I feel sad for anyone who was not lucky enough to experience the incredible mind-bending highs that were the norm for some people in that era.
 
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