Do You Support The "Occupy"Protests?

[Coals]

I have to admit that I am hesitant to reveal my opinion because of the expected onslaught of negativity from RIU members. It's sad for me because I would expect more of my comrades, especially those that belong to this forum (a forum of more open minded thinkers) to support my perspective. This could be an example of what we're up against if we really want to change things.

Gimme a break, lets hear it bud. That is kind of the whole underlying theme of occupy, get out there and talk and share ideas. This stuff isn't taught in school and is drastically suppressed by the monopoly media, no one person can know everything about every issue.

My beef is Corporate/payola control of Government and the death trap of a monetary system we have been sold into by a half dozen dynasty families.

 

[Tales]

Gimme a break, lets hear it bud. That is kind of the whole underlying theme of occupy, get out there and talk and share ideas. This stuff isn't taught in school and is drastically suppressed by the monopoly media, no one person can know everything about every issue.

My beef is Corporate/payola control of Government and the death trap of a monetary system we have been sold into by a half dozen dynasty families.

I agreed with you about needing to get out and share ideas. I also think the net is a place where info lives forever, and people have become rightfully suspicious of leaving things here.

But do share if you feel up to it, as Coals stated, POV's are beneficial to some.

 

[londonfog]

I hate when I get charge a "convenience fee" for paying my damn bills..WTF is that ???? a sign of greedy corporate America

 

[fdd2blk]

Let the dirty hippys hang out in the street.
You want to change things change it at the ballot box. Vote out the incumbents from both parties then maybe we will start to see some fiscal sanity MAYBE. Power corrupts no matter what your political leanings are.
The problems do not stem from Wall street. Its our Goverment that is the problem. Its gotten so damn rotten. They are pissing our tax money away on special interest and keeping themselves in power.
Imagine what we could have done with the 528 billion that was pissed away on Solyndra a company that "SHOCKINGLY" has ties to democratic fund raisers. That is just the tip of the corruption iceberg.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

My 2 cents.

"voting" is what got us here.

 

[mame]

I like how people bring up solyndra like it matters...

Guess what guys? 500 million is a drop in the bucket. Guess what else? Companies fail all the time. Private and public investors take a risk and sometimes they get burned, that's just life.

Meanwhile, government investment has done plenty of good things that many people dont even realize... Anyone know what an accelerometer is? They use it for all kinds of things, but you may have used the technology while playing the Wii (it's in the controller). It was invented and developed with government (military) funding. How about the microchip? Again, funded by the government(military). GPS? Again, funded by the government(military). The internet? Again, funded by the government(military).... We all know NASA is responsible for several innovations, Flame retardant materials used in firefighting, for example, being one of them... I could go on and on but the point is for every failure of public investment, there are many more successes.

 

[NoDrama]

I like how people bring up solyndra like it matters...

Guess what guys? 500 million is a drop in the bucket. Guess what else? Companies fail all the time. Private and public investors take a risk and sometimes they get burned, that's just life.

When most companies fail do the taxpayers pay for them? Taxpayers are on the hook for Solyndra in case you hadn't figured that out. You and I are not public investors, we are DUPES that got left holding the bag, AGAIN!!!

I am getting pretty fucking tired of paying for other peoples mistakes, and those other people don't have to pay a fucking dime, instead they get to keep money.

 

[fdd2blk]

the protesters are starting to agree to "terms" to be allowed to stay.

isn't that kinda what they were protesting to begin with?

 

[Brick Top]

So far there's 66.04% support for the Occupy Wall Street lunatic fringe. That is not representative of the U.S. citizenry. Sites like this always tend to be far more liberal that society as a whole.


AP-GfK Poll: 37 percent of public back protests

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By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press
WASHINGTON — Most Americans say politics makes them angry. But that doesn't mean there is wide support for the Wall Street protests against the nation's power brokers.
The latest Associated Press-GfK poll shows that 37 percent of people do back the protests that have spread from New York to cities across the country. It's one of the first snapshots of how the public views the "Occupy Wall Street" movement.
But more Americans — 58 percent — say they are furious about the country's politics than did in January, when 49 percent said they felt that way.
Nearly nine in 10 say they are frustrated with politics and nearly the same say they are disappointed.

 

[mame]

When most companies fail do the taxpayers pay for them? Taxpayers are on the hook for Solyndra in case you hadn't figured that out. You and I are not public investors, we are DUPES that got left holding the bag, AGAIN!!!

I am getting pretty fucking tired of paying for other peoples mistakes, and those other people don't have to pay a fucking dime, instead they get to keep money.

You invest, so I'm sure you understand that you win some and you lose some better than a lot of people on these boards. With that knowledge, and knowing that trillions of dollars flow from the government coffers each year - is a 500 million dollar loss siginificant at all? Of all the successful investments that the government has made, is the failure of a single company enough to discourage public investment entirely? I mean, if you're showing overall gains on your portfolio but you have a couple poor performing stocks, what do you do? Dump those stocks or do you just throw the entire portfolio out? I dont have the numbers but guessing just by the sheer volume of government spending each year, 500 million dollars is probably less than 1% of the governments overall investment portfolio.

This issue has been politicized so heavily that it's just frustrating when people use Solyndra to argue government cannot and should not invest at all when that is just not the case. One should look at government's overall investment portfolio to decide something like that IMO... And the overall portfolio throughout history has performed well.

 

[Tales]

So far there's 66.04% support for the Occupy Wall Street lunatic fringe. That is not representative of the U.S. citizenry. Sites like this always tend to be far more liberal that society as a whole.

Agreed.

Fortunately for all of us we have folks in here like you to set us "straight", which btw to me is surprising. Only that you burn (an assumption) and you are on the side of politics that you are.

That is refreshing in a way, to know that people who differ so much in opinion on vast issues, can see eye-to-eye on Medi Mari (another assumption). whatever that means.

 

[mame]

So far there's 66.04% support for the Occupy Wall Street lunatic fringe. That is not representative of the U.S. citizenry. Sites like this always tend to be far more liberal that society as a whole.


AP-GfK Poll: 37 percent of public back protests

1 / 2

By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press
WASHINGTON — Most Americans say politics makes them angry. But that doesn't mean there is wide support for the Wall Street protests against the nation's power brokers.
The latest Associated Press-GfK poll shows that 37 percent of people do back the protests that have spread from New York to cities across the country. It's one of the first snapshots of how the public views the "Occupy Wall Street" movement.
But more Americans — 58 percent — say they are furious about the country's politics than did in January, when 49 percent said they felt that way.
Nearly nine in 10 say they are frustrated with politics and nearly the same say they are disappointed.

I'm sure you're one of those idiots who is in denial about the OWS and it's striking similarities to the TEA party movement when it first started, aren't you? You see protests, but because they are part of the "lunatic fringe" left they are not valid? Are they "un-American" in your eyes? What are you, some kind of hypocrite? Or do you have the memory of a goldfish?

These protests are the same kind of movement that the TEA party started out as, whether you like it or not. Just as the left demonized the TEA party for being racist and uninformed the right is demonizing OWS as uninformed communists... Seriously, you talk about "leftist" propaganda all the time, don't you? You dont seem to have much of a problem eating up the shit from the right though, do you? On Bill O'Reilly last night he called the OWS un-american and anti-capitalist; Rush Limbaugh for the last several days has been accusing Obama and unions of creating OWS so they can turn the US into a dictatorship... I guess I'll just put you in their group of crazies then, because you've got to be blind and/or stupid to think OWS is fundamentally different from the TEA party protests. They may have different messages or views but they are very much the same.

 

[Tales]

So far there's 66.04% support for the Occupy Wall Street lunatic fringe. That is not representative of the U.S. citizenry. Sites like this always tend to be far more liberal that society as a whole.

I dont know that I really give a shit what main stream media's numbers are suggesting. That's the purpose of this thread. Just a quick insight to the opinions of a our unique demo.

Futhermore, I posed this question to the whole RUI community, which consists of global members to be sure. This is after-all a global movement now.

 

[fdd2blk]

LOL



"... Sheffe, who has been in talks with members of Occupy Wall Street’s Community Relations Group for weeks, said he wants the protesters to have a “noise hour” for two hours a day and then silence for the rest of the time. This includes no marching at any other time and sticking to a single marching route so that most police barricades can be removed. He said he is also calling for still better sanitation and a date for vacating the park"

http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2011/october/1129_occupy-wall-street-struggles-to-improve-strained-relations-with-its-neighbors.html

 

[Brick Top]

I'm sure you're one of those idiots who is in denial about the OWS and it's striking similarities to the TEA party movement when it first started, aren't you?

Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh, no.

I have made my position crystal clear. I have said that some things the Occupy Wall Street crybabies want is good, but some of what they want would be extremely destructive if they got it, so based on that I cannot support them. I can say something very similar about The Tea Party. Some of what they believe in is good and would make things better, but some isn't. And that is why I do not support The Tea Party either.

And as for the message you responded to. That was not one where I took any position. It was only to point out how sites like this are much more liberal than U.S. society as a whole and how there is not nearly the percentage of support in 'the real world' for the Occupy Wall Street movement as there is on sites like this.

People need to keep that in mind. They see a poll like the one in this thread and they think a majority of the nations people support the movement, they think what they see here is representative of the U.S. citizenry. But it's not. It's not even close to being representative of the U.S. citizenry.

Sites like this are much like college campuses, but with a much lower average level of intelligence. They are uber-liberal and they are not a true reflection of U.S. society.

 

[Brick Top]

I dont know that I really give a shit what main stream media's numbers are suggesting. That's the purpose of this thread. Just a quick insight to the opinions of a our unique demo.

I was just supplying a little something to keep things in perspective as to how the Occupy Wall Street movement is being accepted and supported in 'the real world' as opposed to how it is accepted and supported here on Fantasy Island.

 

[fdd2blk]

Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh, no.

I have made my position crystal clear. I have said that some things the Occupy Wall Street crybabies want is good, but some of what they want would be extremely destructive if they got it, so based on that I cannot support them. I can say something very similar about The Tea Party. Some of what they believe in is good and would make things better, but some isn't. And that is why I do not support The Tea Party either.

And as for the message you responded to. That was not one where I took any position. It was only to point out how sites like this are much more liberal than U.S. society as a whole and how there is not nearly the percentage of support in 'the real world' for the Occupy Wall Street movement as there is on sites like this.

People need to keep that in mind. They see a poll like the one in this thread and they think a majority of the nations people support the movement, they think what they see here is representative of the U.S. citizenry. But it's not. It's not even close to being representative of the U.S. citizenry.

Sites like this are much like college campuses, but with a much lower average level of intelligence. They are uber-liberal and they are not a true reflection of U.S. society.

well that explains why YOU are here.

 

[mame]

This website actually leans fairly heavily to the right, primarily dominated by Ron Paul supporting libertarians.

 

[Tales]

I was just supplying a little something to keep things in perspective as to how the Occupy Wall Street movement is being accepted and supported in 'the real world' as opposed to how it is accepted and supported here on Fantasy Island.

Not such a fantasy as you suggest when there are people rioting and protesting in the streets world wide. Faux news seems much more disconnected to me. imo

 

[Brick Top]

Sites like this are much like college campuses, but with a much lower average level of intelligence. They are uber-liberal and they are not a true reflection of U.S. society.

well that explains why YOU are here.

I am here to attempt to raise the average that you and others like you drug down deeper than the Mariana Trench.

 

[Tales]

How bout that weather these days, huh? whatever...