One man and his bush - 1 plant SCROG in Stealth Cab - Chocolate Berry
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lilindian
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Thanks man, just fed her so i hope she likes her dinner! Never have i mixed so many nutes together...
legallyflying
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Dude, do NOT feed them lots of nitrogen now! It can delay onset and will make them stretch more.
lilindian
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Too late man, anyway i'd rather have them stretch a little than for leaves to start yellowing so damn early. To be honest it was more a precaution than anything else. But no worries, ur advice has been taken onboard, i'll start weeding out the N from now on, i'll go half strength next feeding, then quater then none, so this time next week will be her last feeding with any veg nutes in it, sound good? Will mean i'll have fed veg nutes through first 2 wks of flower, gettin less nd less. Just tryin to keep her greener for longer as ive switched straight to flower nutes previously and always had problems keepin leaves green
Budget Buds
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Your bush is looking great, I like the kinects things, thats budget enginering at it's best . I haven't read everything on this thread, but i would invest in some kind of complete and formulated set of nutrients, I use technaflora (B.C) and it is idiot proof and even comes with mixing chart . I have tryed others (fox farm, g.h) and i can say that the pot grows better, seems stronger and tastes great, they even come in a starter kit that comes with everything you need for about 35 or 40 bucks on ebay , it contains enough to grow a few small crops . I will swear by them. You have a great idea with the two screens, I'm going to incorporate it into my own . It makes it a lot less stressful on the plants , ( tying vs bending under) And that means better growth, I run a scrog myself and wouldn't grow any other way, it does take longer for vegative but i wait an extra month . it will make the difference between 2 oz per plant and 10 oz or more per plant. my best ever was about 250 grams from a 213 watt cfl. you will never see a type of performance out of a cfl UNLESS it is scrog . N E Ways good luck and i hope to see 3 lbs out of it.
lilindian
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Thanks, i started off growing using HESI nutes, bought a soil starter kit and that got me going, used that for a couple runs, now ive switched to canna's range because i've seen amazing plants grown using them, and they have a fully organic range. This is the primary nute range i've been using, "Canna Bio", and anything else is a supplemental nutrient i've either used previously or hear good things about. I'll probably stick with Canna Nutes until i'm happy i've got the best out of them, then try a different range, think "Sugar Peak" is on the list.
As for 3lbs, well i highly doubt that. When each branch grows up through the second screen i basically want 1 big cola per branch, and to achieve that i'm probably gona trim off any side branching that grows, if any. Obviously this will reduce my yield but i literally do not have space to flower her to her absolute full potential i don't think. All depends how she grows. If she grows like my last sour diesel, happy days, if she grows like the blue cheese, her yield will suffer i'm sure. Time will tell!
250grams off a 213W CFL is un-heard of to me.... Thats better than what i managed to get out of a 400W MH/HPS..... post some pictures up man i'd love to see this, never thought this would be possible, no matter how good a SCROG you grow
Budget Buds
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You've got the whole organic thing going. all my friends do too, I should've read more before posting. I agree with you on the lack of space and trimming, I don't trim but i run smaller scales with longer veg too. But trimming off secondary growth will ensure that it will be growing to its fullest potential . As for my Unbelievable story . I do not posses any pictures of the grow, ( yeah i know) But The info is this: It was a local lime diesel cross, vegged for 9 weeks from rooted clone in a scrog setup . 1 x 100 w 2700k , 1x 100 w 6500k , 1 x 13 w unknown k . Flowered for 9 weeks
fed B.C. nutrients and massive sweeteners doses + a little secret . It was memorable . i wish the strain didn't dissapear . get online and look on live leak. and search for a scrog, I saw one on there not too much bigger then yours pull 3+lbs. dry . genetics have as much to do with a huge pull as a perfect environment .
fed B.C. nutrients and massive sweeteners doses + a little secret . It was memorable . i wish the strain didn't dissapear . get online and look on live leak. and search for a scrog, I saw one on there not too much bigger then yours pull 3+lbs. dry . genetics have as much to do with a huge pull as a perfect environment .
olylifter420
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how do you water it?
stelthy
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Looking nice and tidy
- Lots of pics today, she's getting proper nice and bushy now, canopy is slowly thickening up.
- Seems to have taken well to the feed yesterday.
- Temp sitting at 29C, still warm, considering getting a temp controlled RVK, my current 5" one moves 250m3/hour, and the 5" temp controlled one moves 400m3/hr, which should be more than sufficient. It also has an idling speed to set it at for when the temp is below the set mark. Need to get a bit of money together but this will most likely be my next upgrade.
are you doing a Dual Layered SCROG?? I thought about doing this too! +REP! for keeping it tidy man - STELTHY 
stelthy
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- Decided to solves my high temp problems by buying a new extractor fan, opted for the "Prima Klima 5" Temperature Controlled Extractor Fan", not only does this have a built in temp sensor, but its also a 5" that moves an extra 170m3/hr than my old 5" RVK. The result? A LOT of negative pressure. Without all intakes running its quite hard to open the doors!
- Decided to use the old RVK as an intake fan. I stuck this where the 4" Inline fan was, and moved the 4" inline to where the computer fan was, and moved the computer fan to my bin.
- Although not necessary, i decided to add a duct to the end of the intake RVK so i could direct the fresh air to the far right of my cab. Air is extracted from the top left of the cab (left side of reflector), so if fresh air coming in from the bottom right of the cab makes sense to me. I have the other 4" inline fan for undirected fresh air.
- Intake RVK was hung from bungee cords to minimise vibrations and therefore noise.
- New fan is definitely moving more air, but its also slightly louder, i think... Maybe i havn't boxed it up in pillows as well as i'd done last time... I'm no electrician, but from my understanding of things, the fan speed is governed by a variable resistor. When this is in use, i.e. the fan isn't at full blast, it makes a humming noise! Would've assumed the manufacturers would've done something to minimise this but it doesn't look like it. My only complaint so far.
- The temp sensor for the new fan has been placed in the middle of the first screen at screen level below the canopy. It's set to 24C, as if the air down there is 24C then the air at canopy level will be around where i want it to be, hopefully. When i installed my original temp sensor when i first build the cab, i stupidly glued it in place where it sits, and it cant be moved unless i snip it and reattach it. You can see where the sensor is, under the vertical ducting on the right. This is where i have to get my temp readings from.... at the moment its alright but it wont be for long.
- Plant is growing well and still looking in top form for the time being. Hope she appreciates all this work!
Thats an excellent fan !! I started off using a 6" one exactly the same...it upset me when it finally died on me...Hence my upgrade to an 8" Systemair In-Line fan... I'd love to get an 8" Version of the Prima Clima .. Where did you get your ??? - STELTHY
Heads Up
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Lilindian, do you ph test your liquids before watering/feeding? I wouldn't plan on cutting out giving your plant N during bloom. For your info, it can take some strains, particularly sativa dominant strains, up to five weeks to fully transition from veg to flower, so week one is just the start of your stretch you probably have another two weeks left. I'm still not convinced you're going to need your top screen. I'm starting week seven of 12/12 and I give my plants extra N at least twice a week.
lilindian
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Yeh its been working quite well so far, much more pull than my last fan. Did you also have this problem with the humming sound it makes when u turn the fan speed down?Thats an excellent fan !! I started off using a 6" one exactly the same...it upset me when it finally died on me...Hence my upgrade to an 8" Systemair In-Line fan... I'd love to get an 8" Version of the Prima Clima .. Where did you get your ??? - STELTHY
It all makes sense now how u manage all that heat, u got an 8" exhaust! You've actually just made me think twice about whether i should've bought the 6" one instead.... Got mine from my local hydro shop, £120 or something.
As for a dual layered SCROG, this isn't one, but i know exactly how i'd go about growing one, but again it would require 2 HID's. Would be able to grow so much more bud in the same footprint its insane....Already got it all planned out. Will definitely give it a go when i move placed and build a new set up. This cab isn't the neatest one in the world but thats due to the rush i was in to get it up and running, next one will be CRISP and much much better designed. I'll take my time over it and pour in all the knowledge ive gained over the past few years. Stay tuned!
The amount of conflicting advice i get is crazy! But still always appreciated, gives me something to think/research about. I'm expecting her to stretch madly in the next 2 weeks, maybe even into the 4th week, and by that time i'm sure the branches will be long and need supporting, hence the 2nd screen. It's also there to space out the branching efficiently, and if one branch grows too tall i'll pull it down to canopy height and tie it to the first screen. So the 2nd one has its uses.
Anyway i'm not sure about feeding nitrogen throughout the whole of flowering, after the 3rd week latest i'll only give her N if and when need be. If i start to see leaves heading south i'll try sorting it out instead of just letting it slowly happen as ive done in the past.
I've never PH'd a liquid in my life.... I just put a huge amount of faith into my local tap water to be on point, never tested it but its done the job nicely so far
Thankyou thankyou, this SCROG method has its benefits and disadvantages over a traditional SCROG as i'm sure we'll all soon find out, again, stay tuned!
lilindian
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Haha carpet of buds, aint heard that one before but i'm liking it, sub up!dude. that is going to be an absolute CARPET of buds man. i can't wait to see her flower..
lilindian
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- Looks like she's taken to yesterdays feed quite well, 95% of leaves i'd say are looking nice and healthy.
- After trying to bend over the highest branches on the plant, i realise they were getting quite hard and strong, so decided to tie them down today to even up the canopy a bit before they got too thick. Pretty much done, now all the tops are all within 1-2" of each other.
- Smaller branches growing under the canopy were exposed to try and get them to catch up to the top, this time next week it should be perfectly flat....
After Evening Things Up + tying down near left side of screen
lilindian
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"Ive attached a hose to the end of my watering can, so i can stick the hose through the canopy to the soil. I water through this.
She's sitting in a 25L bucket, i give her approx 15L with a good amount of run off each time. Takes around 4-5 days for the soil to start creeping away from the edges of the bucket...."
Damn straight u do, i've found more than anything that doing a SCROG teaches u more about how the plants grow, i've learnt a lot this time round already and from last round's LST'ing and topping. Depends what kind of a grower u are, if ur one that loves spending time with their plants, then training is for you. If you're someone who grows purely for the smoke, then training is also for you so u can get more bud! So really and truly every grower should do some training of some sort in my opinionWow-zaaaa! Everytime I seem them I get more and more envious...man do I need to do a scrog.