bamfrivet
Well-Known Member
like I said, everyone has their own opinions. I posted mine you didn't agree with it, I get it.
Chopping off Fan leaves
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arizoning
New Member
as far as i know all plants in veg need more then 12 hrs light either 16/8 18/6 20/4
or 24
unless you consider less bud weight a problem then no problem
skeeterbob
Active Member
i think autos are suppose to flower under any light condition... not positive but thats what ive heard.
skeeterbob
Active Member
as for less bud weight im not so concerned right now for i cant sell it or smoke as much as i have growing right now... i popped the auto in hopes it would be finished way earlier then the rest of the plants... ( to hold me over for the others.) i hope its gonna be finished before xmas! lol that would be a fuckin awesome christmas pres to myself. i have no way of getting bud right now so that is why i decided to grow.. oh and i got fuckin ripped off!! 320 bucks!
arizoning
New Member
never say u cant smoke all of it im sure if u really put your self to the task u could or atleast make a big dent in it lol
arizoning
New Member
in my opinion if it was me i would do 18/6
but thats just me
like others said everyone has their own ways and what they think works best
u could try it one way then try another and see what works best
make good stocking stuffers too I'll betnever say u cant smoke all of it im sure if u really put your self to the task u could or atleast make a big dent in it lol
skeeterbob
Active Member
i think ill try the 12/12 this time just cuz i have all the other plants in the same tent. Next time ill do all autos or all Photo.
arizoning
New Member
got that right and so far all mine hase in it is a fucking lump of coal
wtf can i even use coal for these day?
paperweight ?
weapon?
idk wtf to do with it
pet rock? do they make good pets?
skeeterbob
Active Member
haha my bro got a lump a coal one year!! he was soooo pissed lol, hes a pretty greedy guy though so he always expected to get more then me lol
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
for autos, you'll get the best result if you give them 20 hours of light and only 4 hours of darkness... 18 / 6 is the next best option if you have to do it that way..
there's no need to give them 12 / 12 as they are autos and not photoperiod plants, which means that flowering is not triggered by the amount of hours of darkness like on photoperiod plants, but rather how old they are...
so, in summary, just leave auto's under 20 hours of light and 4 hours of darkness for their entire lifes for best results... you can give them 12 / 12, but obviously you'll get a smaller yield then you would have it you would have given them 20 hours of light..
hope that helps out some...
there's no need to give them 12 / 12 as they are autos and not photoperiod plants, which means that flowering is not triggered by the amount of hours of darkness like on photoperiod plants, but rather how old they are...
so, in summary, just leave auto's under 20 hours of light and 4 hours of darkness for their entire lifes for best results... you can give them 12 / 12, but obviously you'll get a smaller yield then you would have it you would have given them 20 hours of light..
hope that helps out some...
arizoning
New Member
there we go u stuff my stocking i send u lump of coal u give to brother
presents solved almost
just kidding trades and stuff are not allowed here
so i guess i will just kick my lump of coal
Thought this may help
6.3 The vegetative phase
In this phase, the plants are illuminated 18 hours per day, and kept in darkness 6 hours per day. If all aspects are in order, (sufficient light, proper ventilation, good temperature, enough water and nutrients, in short: complete climate control), the plants will grow quickly; up to 5 cm per day. The duration of the vegetative stage is strongly dependent on the control of climate. The better the climatic conditions, the earlier the cutting takes root. The vegetative phase lasts from 3 to 10 days at maximum. We'll discuss growing 15 plants per square meter. If we want to use the surface area to the maximum, then we must prune the plants; - break off the uppermost part. Pruning is possible only with plants that have rooted and begun to grow. If this is not the case, breaking or clipping the tops off should be postponed for a couple of days. By pruning the plants, we ensure that they not only grow tall, but wide, as well. After cutting off the tops, we leave the plant in the vegetative stage (18-hour cycle) for a few more days. When the off-shoots have grown 3-4 cm, we start the generative phase. If all goes well, 3 or 4 large tops will then form on each plant. Then we're ready to get around 50 tops per square meter. To get a wider plant, you can now break off the top-most part of the plant. Further pruning is not necessary. Pruning makes the plant grow fuller. That's not to say you get a bigger plant, because you've also taken something away. Since the vegetative phase lasts only a short time, the plant must quickly make up for the damage. After pruning the top, two new branches will appear from the budding sight just under the spot where the top was. Be very careful with pruning; it's a more painful experience for a plant than trimming your own nails. After pruning, it's not unlikely for growth to be delayed for a few days. It needs no further explanation that a clean, razor-sharp knife or garden scissors should be used. Actually, we can only think of one good reason for pruning. When branches don't grow well, or are sickly or too thin, in short; unhealthy, you can, of course, carefully remove them. With pruning, it always involves the removal of the whole branch. Take care to touch the leaves as little as possible. That can easily disturb the workings of the stomata in the leaves. Some people swear by removing leaves in order to allow more light to reach other leaves. This is necessary; moreover, part of the growth capacity is lost. It's also unnecessary to remove dying leaves. You only have to clear these away after they've fallen off the plant. Picking them off earlier might again cause damage to the plant.
6.4 The generative phase
After one week at maximum, we will shorten the illumination time, and adapt the irrigation schedule accordingly. We keep giving water 6 times per light cycle. Give water and fertilizer during the period that the light is on, and not during the dark period. In the flowering, or generative phase, the plants are in the light for 12 hours and in darkness for 12 hours. We imitate a shortening of the day in autumn; a sign for the plant to start flowering and forming seeds during its last phase of life. In the generative phase, the plant's emphasis is less on growth. Less chlorophyll is produced and in the flowering phase, we often see fewer fingers forming on the cannabis leaf. The plant needs less blue light during the flowering phase (that was important for chlorophyll production in the leaves), and it needs more red light. The autumn sun produces more red light, because the autumn sun is lower in the sky. That doesn't mean that you must now use only the sodium lamps. With only red light, the plants lose their vegetative leaves (they turn yellow and fall off easily), while the stem of the plant is lengthened. The distance between the branches (also called the 'internode') increases. When we just let the mercury-iodide lamps supply the plants with blue light, this effect won't occur so easily. The supply of water and nutrients continues. The time between irrigations is shortened, so that the plants are still irrigated during each light cycle. Not in order to push the plants to grow as fast as possible, but to keep the metabolism at level, and to produce resins.
source : http://www.budseed.com/rockwool6.html
6.3 The vegetative phase
In this phase, the plants are illuminated 18 hours per day, and kept in darkness 6 hours per day. If all aspects are in order, (sufficient light, proper ventilation, good temperature, enough water and nutrients, in short: complete climate control), the plants will grow quickly; up to 5 cm per day. The duration of the vegetative stage is strongly dependent on the control of climate. The better the climatic conditions, the earlier the cutting takes root. The vegetative phase lasts from 3 to 10 days at maximum. We'll discuss growing 15 plants per square meter. If we want to use the surface area to the maximum, then we must prune the plants; - break off the uppermost part. Pruning is possible only with plants that have rooted and begun to grow. If this is not the case, breaking or clipping the tops off should be postponed for a couple of days. By pruning the plants, we ensure that they not only grow tall, but wide, as well. After cutting off the tops, we leave the plant in the vegetative stage (18-hour cycle) for a few more days. When the off-shoots have grown 3-4 cm, we start the generative phase. If all goes well, 3 or 4 large tops will then form on each plant. Then we're ready to get around 50 tops per square meter. To get a wider plant, you can now break off the top-most part of the plant. Further pruning is not necessary. Pruning makes the plant grow fuller. That's not to say you get a bigger plant, because you've also taken something away. Since the vegetative phase lasts only a short time, the plant must quickly make up for the damage. After pruning the top, two new branches will appear from the budding sight just under the spot where the top was. Be very careful with pruning; it's a more painful experience for a plant than trimming your own nails. After pruning, it's not unlikely for growth to be delayed for a few days. It needs no further explanation that a clean, razor-sharp knife or garden scissors should be used. Actually, we can only think of one good reason for pruning. When branches don't grow well, or are sickly or too thin, in short; unhealthy, you can, of course, carefully remove them. With pruning, it always involves the removal of the whole branch. Take care to touch the leaves as little as possible. That can easily disturb the workings of the stomata in the leaves. Some people swear by removing leaves in order to allow more light to reach other leaves. This is necessary; moreover, part of the growth capacity is lost. It's also unnecessary to remove dying leaves. You only have to clear these away after they've fallen off the plant. Picking them off earlier might again cause damage to the plant.
6.4 The generative phase
After one week at maximum, we will shorten the illumination time, and adapt the irrigation schedule accordingly. We keep giving water 6 times per light cycle. Give water and fertilizer during the period that the light is on, and not during the dark period. In the flowering, or generative phase, the plants are in the light for 12 hours and in darkness for 12 hours. We imitate a shortening of the day in autumn; a sign for the plant to start flowering and forming seeds during its last phase of life. In the generative phase, the plant's emphasis is less on growth. Less chlorophyll is produced and in the flowering phase, we often see fewer fingers forming on the cannabis leaf. The plant needs less blue light during the flowering phase (that was important for chlorophyll production in the leaves), and it needs more red light. The autumn sun produces more red light, because the autumn sun is lower in the sky. That doesn't mean that you must now use only the sodium lamps. With only red light, the plants lose their vegetative leaves (they turn yellow and fall off easily), while the stem of the plant is lengthened. The distance between the branches (also called the 'internode') increases. When we just let the mercury-iodide lamps supply the plants with blue light, this effect won't occur so easily. The supply of water and nutrients continues. The time between irrigations is shortened, so that the plants are still irrigated during each light cycle. Not in order to push the plants to grow as fast as possible, but to keep the metabolism at level, and to produce resins.
source : http://www.budseed.com/rockwool6.html
LemonAssistance
Well-Known Member
I trimmed up on mine and did not notice any negative effects, but its probably not necessary as everyone agrees. Id just do it all at once, not like a leaf a day. I trimmed up a few inner leaves around the middle of the main cola so more side light could penetrate the buds coming in down there.