Re - using your soil ............

[DrFever]

what i am saying gas is you can flush and flush soil and all you got is wet shit in the end by the tim i finish with my plants i am in the area of 1400 ppm + with flowering food can you recycle i guess you can have i tryed it yes what were my results Bad what was my root size at end of harvest the hole fckin pot and some ) how much soil was really left not even a cup if i was to screw around with it
is it worth it ???? most growers will make a feeding schedule like myself week 1 so much 850 ppm week 2 1100 week 3- 1100 -1150 ppm week 4 transition into flowering 900 ppm week 1 flowering 1000 ppm week 2 1150 week 3 1250 and so on so by the time were finished i dont believe in flushing plants in its most crucial time of flowering so when i chop i got like approx 1100 ppm of nutrients in the soil harvest day chop pul out the massive root ball in the pot and so on

 

[Gastanker]

what i am saying gas is you can flush and flush soil and all you got is wet shit in the end by the tim i finish with my plants i am in the area of 1400 ppm + with flowering food can you recycle i guess you can have i tryed it yes what were my results Bad what was my root size at end of harvest the hole fckin pot and some ) how much soil was really left not even a cup if i was to screw around with it
is it worth it ???? most growers will make a feeding schedule like myself week 1 so much 850 ppm week 2 1100 week 3- 1100 -1150 ppm week 4 transition into flowering 900 ppm week 1 flowering 1000 ppm week 2 1150 week 3 1250 and so on so by the time were finished i dont believe in flushing plants in its most crucial time of flowering so when i chop i got like approx 1100 ppm of nutrients in the soil harvest day chop pul out the massive root ball in the pot and so on

And this helps the OP how? Most growers do flush and most don't add more nutes than their plants will use - excess nutes hurt your plants and actually slow absorption rates. Not to mention the OP uses organic nutes that are extremely low in salts, unlike cheap chem nutes that are almost pure salts.

The OP posted a question based on their being available soil to recycle... You saying, oh I tried it and it doesn't work, then changing to, "there's no soil left after the grow", really doesn't address the fact that he does have soil and is asking if it's possible. He's not asking if YOU can do it, he's asking if it is possible - which of course it is. If you don't know how to recycle soil, or are not in the position to recycle soil, then why are you posting?

 

[mellokitty]

when i post on a thread cause i have knowledge i mentioned on one of my first posts that i did it this summer reason just didnt matter so i re used my soil adding like 5 pots to new bag and i noticed considerable losses in yields then it got thrown into farmers and most farmers will section there land off and every year they change spots this was learned from europe am i lieing ??????

my take from this is:
"i tried something ONCE, it didn't work for me, it obviously must just not be possible."

kudos.
admitting it is the first step.

your absolutly right soil in time no matter what runs out of life just like you and me every time you feed your plants your litterally giving them SALT we add supliments like fulvixes and humixes for the micro organism to help break down the nutrients for plant uptake what most people seem to forget that why theres so many issues on RIU cause either someone vegged to long and salt built up in there medium and by 3rd week of flower there in a nightmare

fulvic and humic acid are soil components; without them you couldn't call soil "soil". if you think they contribute to salinity issues you need to brush up on your soil chemistry.

here:

http://www.calciumproducts.com/articles/Dr._Pettit_Humate.pdf

 

[DrFever]

my take from this is:
"i tried something ONCE, it didn't work for me, it obviously must just not be possible."

kudos.
admitting it is the first step.





fulvic and humic acid are soil components; without them you couldn't call soil "soil". if you think they contribute to salinity issues you need to brush up on your soil chemistry.

here:

http://www.calciumproducts.com/articles/Dr._Pettit_Humate.pdf

i never said lmaoooooooooo Fulvixes and humixes contribute to salinity you did hahaha

 

[mellokitty]

are you drunk?

 

[Joedank]

Kitty this is funnnnnnnny!! I really like the link of salty soil to too long of veg time. Also the "if someone else fails at it I will too" attitude makes for funny reading..
As many around here know I love dirt and being dirty . my tips for reusing soil are;
1; break It up an isolate roots keep them in another pile
2 add soil to bin half way an fill with 3/4 water
3 shake all perilte floats! Skim off!
4 settle and drain off excess h20
5 add leftovers to compost heap
6 take old active compost and mix it with cleaned perilite and get growing!!
7 if you must use soil right away still rinse it !!
8 THIS Is MY SECREt just for you who actually read posts till the end .. I soak my old roots in nute tea to make a concentrate of tricoderma as they cling to living roots and will detach once dead ... One love
Listen to kitty

 

[ohmy]

Kitty this is funnnnnnnny!! I really like the link of salty soil to too long of veg time. Also the "if someone else fails at it I will too" attitude makes for funny reading..
As many around here know I love dirt and being dirty . my tips for reusing soil are;
1; break It up an isolate roots keep them in another pile
2 add soil to bin half way an fill with 3/4 water
3 shake all perilte floats! Skim off!
4 settle and drain off excess h20
5 add leftovers to compost heap
6 take old active compost and mix it with cleaned perilite and get growing!!
7 if you must use soil right away still rinse it !!
8 THIS Is MY SECREt just for you who actually read posts till the end .. I soak my old roots in nute tea to make a concentrate of tricoderma as they cling to living roots and will detach once dead ... One love
Listen to kitty

nice post. I will have to check out your grow.. you seem like you have a nice one as many people on this site.

 

[Wolverine97]

for all to learn i did a grow this summer and after the grow i re used the soil only adding a little bit of new soil to the mix and my end results were devastating so do you re use soil NO and as for above post do farmers re use there soil
come to think about it it was the europians that came up that making square sections in your land why is this cause they would change there yields either barley or corn etc most farmers now a days will not gorw same thing 2 tmes in there secions of land cause it will ruin there soil farmer will add 2 to 3 times in 5 months ferts and pesticides to there crop we in turn grow indoor our soil doesnt bleach out like farm land does our soil gets used obviously the op has hardly grown to even mention re using soil most of good growers there soil in the container will practicly used up do to roots in there pots

By the time it comes to harvest i got one fckin huge root system in my pot with hardly any soil left to re use )

Holy shit man, I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. But no, really, there is so much fail in that post I don't know where to begin. You can re-use soil just fine my friend, though you do have to take some measures to ensure success. I'd advise you to be a little less generous with the advice until you get a bit more grasp over what you're telling people. It's poor advice like this that leads so many naive new growers down the road to failure.
And what about the Europeans? Squares? Tell me more...

 

[mellokitty]

And what about the Europeans? Squares? Tell me more...

*jeopardy music*

what is ... crop rotation?

 

[Wolverine97]

mellow kitty most growers will hammer there plants i my self push the limit @ 3" clone i am already giving them 800 ppm you got to realize something here only since 911 has Mj started growing in the goo ole usa most pot was and still is brought over to use via Mexico 50 tons a week and Canada but since 911 borders have tightened and today most of the pot in usa is from mexico
so really canada europe has grown pot prob alot more then usa Ever which leads me to believe the top notch growers are from holland amsterdam , canada etc

 

[Joedank]

I have a buddy in amsterdam that grows three grows in rockwool and does two gallon pots of soil that gets grown in stirred with a stick and grow in again... He uses a fully chelated five part nute system dummy proof almost and knows how to read...

 

[ohmy]

*jeopardy music*

what is ... crop rotation?

lol what is a farmer for 100.?

 

[KnockWood]

...tangentially related: There was an experiment done by a 16th century scientist named van Helmont. The following quote is from his wikipedia entry.

Van Helmont was a careful observer of nature; it can be inferred that from his analysis of data gathered in his experiments suggested he had a concept of the conservation of mass. He performed an experiment to determine where plants get their mass. He grew a willow tree and measured the amount of soil, the weight of the tree and the water he added. After five years the plant had gained about 164 pounds. Since the amount of soil was basically the same as it had been when he started his experiment, he deduced that the tree's weight gain had come from water. Since it had received nothing but water and the soil weighed practically the same as at the beginning, he argued that the increased weight of wood, bark and roots had been formed from water alone. However, this "deduction" is incomplete, as a large proportion of the mass of the tree comes from atmospheric carbon dioxide, which, in conjunction with water, is turned into carbohydrates via photosynthesis.

My high school chem teacher would be pleased to know that after 35 years, that bit of info was pertinent!

 

[mysunnyboy]

are you drunk?

HAHAHAAAAAAAA idk but i do think maybe he sells soils by the seashore

 

[spandy]

If you are using a bottled chem line with good micros then all you need to do is flush the soil as you're essentially just using it as a hydroponic growth medium.

If you are growing old school organically you need to replace the bacteria and fungi food along with the trace minerals and micros. You'll also want to re-amend with your non-solubles as well i.e. bone meal, blood meal, alfalfa meal, lama shit... These need to be in the soil before the grow starts and are hopefully given some time to start the mineralization process before planting.

I second that motion.

 

[spandy]

lol what is a farmer for 100.?

LOL, oh man that got the giggles out in force.

 

[ohmy]

LOL, oh man that got the giggles out in force.

lol Need some of them plants that eat all the dirt up.

 

[MJstudent]

Most bottled organic lines are completely water soluble (premineralized) and thus don't rely on soil borne bacteria and fungi for breakdown. Technically all your soil should need is a good rinse, but it would definitely help at least to a small degree to recompost it.

right on, thanks for the tip, someone just gave me some advanced nutrient iguana juice, and something else to try. crap smells pretty gross. worse than all the gross teas that ive made

 

[sso]

re using your soil can work fine, depending on your growmethods perhaps.

ive done it and never ran into problems, nor saw much of a difference, if any.

 

[Clonex]

so can i re use or not , and which strains will not eat my soiless soil ?
and who Moderates the moderators ?