Lumatek Ballast and the Super Lumens Setting / Hortilux bulbs?

[Rrog]

Meaning you don't run a 1000w bulb at 600w? Is that what you're meaning?

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Meaning you don't run a 1000w bulb at 600w? Is that what you're meaning?

Thats exactly what I mean...you run a 600 at 600... 400 at 360,400 or 430(your within 10%+/-)

 

[Rrog]

Lumatek and Solis Tek do not agree with you. See how muddled this all is?

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Ok Lumatek makes a new ballast. Hires an advertising firm to market their new ballast. Advertising firm comes up with a marketing pitch. Lumatek looks at pitch and says 'thats not exactly how we mean it too be used'. Advertising firm tells Lumatek this is what it takes to compete in the market place and tells Lumatek to do what they do best, build ballast. And let them do what they do best, market products. Welcome to the world of retail And Hydroponic retail is as crooked, sneaky and misleading as Bernie Madoffs investment advice.....

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Lumatek and Solis Tek do not agree with you. See how muddled this all is?

I dont see it muddles at all. Sure you can fire a 1000 watt bulb at 600. Will you get the bulbs advertised spectral output, No. Will the bulb reach optimal temp for maximum life, again No. You can do it all you want too. But your not doing your plants, yourself or your bulb any favors. But you did save maybe 10 bucks on your power bill, wow! Is it worth it, hell no in my book......

 

[Rrog]

It's muddled because the ballast people and lamp people are not at all on the same page with all of this. And people (like me) are running around trying to figure out what the scoop is.

 

[farmboss]

WAKE UP PEOPLE. use google, search "new hortilux e-ballast version"

they make new bulbs DESIGNED FOR e-ballasts.

http://www.eyehortilux.com/EQS-N-52-84-00062b.pdf

if you aren't aware of these new version bulbs you NEED NEED NEED to upgrade.

 

[Rrog]

But they're not dimable per Hortilux. Like Ushio, they do not recommend dimming, yet Lumatek, Quantum and Solis Tek all say to go ahead and dim

 

[watchhowIdoit]

But they're not dimable per Hortilux. Like Ushio, they do not recommend dimming, yet Lumatek, Quantum and Solis Tek all say to go ahead and dim

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill...no bulb is efficiently dimmed. Plain and simple. Match the output to the bulb in the socket, how many times do you need to hear this? I provided a link in another thread showing reduced watts(vs bulbs rating)=color rendering diminished(bulb output).

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Covering about 5x4 at the moment on a Lightrail, delaying about 10 seconds at each end. 28-30 inches above the canopy....

I just do not understand why growing MJ has to be such VooDoo too most. Its an annual, and a simple annual to grow very productively at that....

 

[Rrog]

Watch, you've come across exclusively with armchair logic. That's great but not definitive. I contacted the manufacturers for hard data or at least their manufacturer's position on all of this. If this is a mole hill then move on. I'm certainly not getting a thrill at you losing your cool

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Its 'armchair' because its old news...you will never find manufactures or their product claims to agree in the Hydro biz...........

 

[Rrog]

Armchair= opinion. Don't walk all over a guy that wants hard data.

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Shared you some good data and a few pics. Thats the best I can do. Common sense is up to the forum member.....

 

[Rrog]

Thanks, but the links you provided didn't address the discussion at hand, as I already mentioned when you presented them. I appreciated it nonetheless.

What was/is needed is some specific information, not conjecture and a wiki link. To date there is no definitive answer as the ballast and lamp people are dancing around this entire issue. And they agree there is a lot of debate and confusion. Out of all the tech people I talked to, only one claimed to have actual measure spectral data and "was not at liberty" to share. I've been in the lab / testing biz long enough to know that when someone has data they can't share, there either is NO data or the data paints a bad picture.

I have been unsuccessful finding any hard spectral data when a HID lamp is dimmed. I have company opinion from ballast manufacturers and lamp manufacturers. None of them want to wade into this issue, so they either don't know or there's bad news. In any event, this really speaks poorly about the ballast / lamp community at large.

 

[Rrog]

Anyway, peace brother. At some level, we're still on the same side. Let's not lose track of the bigger picture here.

 

[watchhowIdoit]

WAKE UP PEOPLE. use google, search "new hortilux e-ballast version"

they make new bulbs DESIGNED FOR e-ballasts.

http://www.eyehortilux.com/EQS-N-52-84-00062b.pdf

if you aren't aware of these new version bulbs you NEED NEED NEED to upgrade.

The Hortilux bulb I have now is a upgraded version. The Hortilux bulbs prior where not. They all performed very well in a lumatek ballast........

 

[IntrepidTraveler420]

Just did a ton of research into supplementing with UVB. Sounds like some pretty solid stuff! In the near future I see 4 vertical hanging Exo Terra Repti-Glo 10.0 Compact Fluorescent Desert Terrarium bulbs. 20” penitration! I GETTING EXCITED! Scope some info ppl…

[video]http://youtu.be/lfiI78uN3Ks[/video]

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Just did a ton of research into supplementing with UVB. Sounds like some pretty solid stuff! In the near future I see 4 vertical hanging Exo Terra Repti-Glo 10.0 Compact Fluorescent Desert Terrarium bulbs. 20” penitration! I GETTING EXCITED! Scope some info ppl…

[video]http://youtu.be/lfiI78uN3Ks[/video]

Just like getting sunburned mid day at the beach, only in this case the UV burn is good!!!!!

 

[dtp5150]

light "flickering" or hertz will not affect the plant unless it is off for i think 80% of the time. Scientists at nasa did super low wattage with pulsed leds on low duty cycles. So especially if you can't see it do you have no chance of hurting those plants.