A question about plant enhancement products
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So, let's waste some cash!
Jimmy Sparkle
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Liquid karma works I noticed my plants got quite perky after feeding.. Humic and fulvic acids are great and they are both in liquid karma your plants roots will thank you. With a grain of salt dude, some products work great others are a waste. Do some research and remember that nobody grew their dick bigger by taking a pill
Cannabisworks
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liquid karma is good., its a good humic acid that will help chelate the nutes to make them more available at a larger ph range and help move food about the plant to make up for deff
rollandtoke
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To be honest I went with some cheaper shit from walmart and its worked wonders. Miracle Gro "Organic Choice" Blood Meal (nitrogen supplement) and "Organic Choice" Bone Meal (phosphorous supplement) and just some standard Scotts Premium Top Soil for the medium. Within 4 weeks I went from seed to 3' plant just using mostly the Blood Meal (saving the Bone Meal for flowering stage), giving a small tbsp about once a week, mixing it with the top layer of soil...best thing was one huge bag of each will last multiple grows and only 10 bux a bag...just my suggestion for those who are broke/tight with money and just want some decent nutes.
Cannabisworks
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actualy your organic didnt even break down to a useable food yet. those take weeks if not months to break down to be eaten. unless it was made to a tea its real slow. so the growth was from reg foods
Jack Harer
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Out of all the products you listed, the only one I see available at any local mainstream nursery is Ca/Mag. I see so many of these "plant enhancement" products aimed at MJ growers, and I think to myself, If they were so good, WHY aren't they available at any mainstream gardening centers or nurseries? Do other gardeners use any of these products? MJ is a plant, no different from any other, and I would think that if someone had "built a better mousetrap" or re-invented the wheel, the whole gardening world would be beating a path to their door. I'd say some of them do have some value, but no more than can be obtained in less expensive ways, however, I think most of it is snake oil.
Cannabisworks
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you dont go to a nursery to get hydrponic food. to them its all about their bottom line..profits and there isnt enough mark up for them to touch it and as its to do with growing illegal plants. a main stream store dosnt want to be labeled that way.
and mj is diff than other plants. each play type and family has different needs and food requirements. most wont work because most dont understand how or what they do. and yes alot are snake oil, like carbs. its just sucrose and nothing more but 100x the cost. hell its free at 7-11 and starbucks
you could easily grow with a base veg and bloom food and a phos/potassium boost and thats all. and some cost differecnes are from how its processed and the originating sources used. and that goes for the quality of the products to for originating sources.
and mj is diff than other plants. each play type and family has different needs and food requirements. most wont work because most dont understand how or what they do. and yes alot are snake oil, like carbs. its just sucrose and nothing more but 100x the cost. hell its free at 7-11 and starbucks
you could easily grow with a base veg and bloom food and a phos/potassium boost and thats all. and some cost differecnes are from how its processed and the originating sources used. and that goes for the quality of the products to for originating sources.
Jack Harer
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Just my 2 pennies on soil oriented products. It's only my opinion.
Cannabisworks
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ya i wasnt saying people dont know their stuff. just alot of missinterpreted info. but yes most foods dont work or have the bennefit they think. was just told this morning on here that a guy used true organics but thinks it woke his plants up over night. impossible as it takes weeks or more to be a food to even eat. plants can fix and take care of themselves and make thier own food more than we can ever do. we just guide them along to make a few things easier for them. so they can focus on more important things to work on.....and its always us that messes them up, not the foods or other products but guys will blame the bottle always, never a human error
Jack Harer
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Hahaha!! So true!!
Cannabisworks
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was my job for a while to answer the calls at a nute co and problem solve. 99% werent using it to the directions. or missunderstood what the info was saying
Jack Harer
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I do not doubt that at all. I certainly do not blame the companies that produce the stuff. I blame the consumers.
Cannabisworks
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well i blame the co. if it wasnt for them selling false info or missleading or lying to us we wouldnt fall for it. now we see more fact based info now a days and we see for ourselves the truth and its making an impact. ive seen it. ive heard more than one owner say the public is getting to smart or knowing to much info.
rollandtoke
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Oh so tru...not only in this specific industry but in many others...I come from a Tech Support industry and so many times I wish people would just train their end users properly rather than leaving them to figure out their own shit.
In the end, while following all the guides and forums here, practice makes perfect....once you learn to clone, you can try many different things to get exactly the recipe you want!
Cannabisworks
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saw it every day to...lol. but it makes them more money in the end as guys use to much or dont use it right period and its doing nothing like moist nutes do anyways. now no way i could say at work
most is to do with the so called secret engredients in them./ we cant say what they are or we loose the recipe. but then how is the grower suposed to use it to gain the extra bennefit from the secret engredients. so most blame the food
most is to do with the so called secret engredients in them./ we cant say what they are or we loose the recipe. but then how is the grower suposed to use it to gain the extra bennefit from the secret engredients. so most blame the food
homebrewer
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Some of these products can provide some benefit, but by far the most improvement you'll see in your grow comes from learning how to properly care for and feed a plant. Only then will some of the above products provide a slight benefit, most of them however do not come close to justifying their price or added time using said product.
Cannabisworks
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true..but most important from learning is a good room conditions. if the room isnt run as we make the food to work with then it wont do as the bottle or maker claims. and no..it will never be as good a bonus as they claim but they most work if we use it right as to what it says it does. problem is most think they know foods but dont. and again is the co fault by not following up on help. most wont call in to ask direct to the maker so they come online looking for more missinformation and stray further and further away from reality. it has gotten way better now with real facts being avail on line and a few of us sneeking out info to help/ they take that super serious to keep the yap shut...but i dont be told to shut the mouth by them....lol