Who Believes In God?

[email468]

email said it best, the churches ARNT GOD! they (the followers) are not perfect,

but to email, by reading what u say...u think so differently, i know u dont believe in God because u said u didnt...but from what i see you are very intelligent..how can u NOT see the evidence and love of Jesus? (not material evidence but....i dnt know how to say it but some how i can see and know that Jesus is the son of God) kinda confusing how i say it but i hope u get what i am trying saying

I think I understand what you're saying and my honest answer is I don't know. My brain is wired differently? I really don't know.

 

[ace1059]

as i see in your picture haha..all i know is God has a plan 4 u!..peace

 

[We TaRdED]

as i see in your picture haha.

lololololo^^^^^^^^


wow, now im really confused. i guess its ok to believe in God now, because ppl believe in aliens!!!! ahhhhh YouTube - U.F.O DISCLOSURE PROJECT U.FO MEETING

i mean, how can you believe in aliens but not God? which one is more far fetched? idk


edit- also you can leave your comments here https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/58762-you-humanoid-alien.html

 

[ace1059]

haha ya, actually a large number of nasa astronauts have claimed to seeing numerous ufo's while they are in space...so u never know lol....but dnt believe everything u watch on the internet please! lol

 

[purpletrainwreck]

Imaginary friend for adults..
It's evolution....
Some people just have to beleive in something or
need that imaginary something to keep going..

 

[Wikidbchofthewst]

Imaginary friend for adults..
It's evolution....
Some people just have to beleive in something or
need that imaginary something to keep going..

Ok, I've been staying out of all this, because I don't really don't care if people don't believe what I believe.

But I CANNOT STAND when I hear shit like that. When people act as if I believe in God because I'm too weak and I need something to cling to for hope and purpose.

I'm sorry, but if you ask me, it's way easier to NOT believe in God. It takes a lot more strength and faith to believe in something that you can't see, that you can't have proven to you.

How DARE you act like my belief in God is nothing more than some illogical need to believe in something imaginary? Maybe that's how YOU see God, but it's not how I do.

Yeah, we all have the right to our own opinions, but when YOU express an opinion like THAT, you're just showing that you have no respect for other people's opinions if they don't coincide with your own.

 

[Zekedogg]

Ok, I've been staying out of all this, because I don't really don't care if people don't believe what I believe.

But I CANNOT STAND when I hear shit like that. When people act as if I believe in God because I'm too weak and I need something to cling to for hope and purpose.

I'm sorry, but if you ask me, it's way easier to NOT believe in God. It takes a lot more strength and faith to believe in something that you can't see, that you can't have proven to you.

How DARE you act like my belief in God is nothing more than some illogical need to believe in something imaginary? Maybe that's how YOU see God, but it's not how I do.

Yeah, we all have the right to our own opinions, but when YOU express an opinion like THAT, you're just showing that you have no respect for other people's opinions if they don't coincide with your own.

Well said

 

[Wikidbchofthewst]

Well said

Thank you Zeke!

*takes a deep breath*

lol, sorry, but I get pretty heated when it comes to stuff like that. I know a lot of people with all sorts of different beliefs, and I never judge them or try to convert them to my way of thinking.

But I have come across a lot of people who share purpletrainwreck's opinion. People who will talk down to me for believing in God. One guy acted surprised when I told him I was Catholic, "Oh, I didn't know you were the type of person who needs to believe in some higher power to find meaning in life..."

Fuck that, and fuck him! You don't have to agree with me, but please, don't fucking patronize me just because I don't believe the same thing as you. But I guess for some people that's all they got. It's much easier to act condescending than to actually WIN the arguement.

 

[email468]

Ok, I've been staying out of all this, because I don't really don't care if people don't believe what I believe.

But I CANNOT STAND when I hear shit like that. When people act as if I believe in God because I'm too weak and I need something to cling to for hope and purpose.

I'm sorry, but if you ask me, it's way easier to NOT believe in God. It takes a lot more strength and faith to believe in something that you can't see, that you can't have proven to you.

How DARE you act like my belief in God is nothing more than some illogical need to believe in something imaginary? Maybe that's how YOU see God, but it's not how I do.

Yeah, we all have the right to our own opinions, but when YOU express an opinion like THAT, you're just showing that you have no respect for other people's opinions if they don't coincide with your own.

I agree that insults and condescending attitudes on ALL sides of the debate do nothing to further understanding. Unfortunately, many folks (again on ALL sides of the debate) have an axe to grind and use the anonymity of the Internet to create some sparks.

More hostility, more misunderstandings, and a larger wall is built between us. Very sad and unnecessary.

 

[ace1059]

I'm sorry, but if you ask me, it's way easier to NOT believe in God. It takes a lot more strength and faith to believe in something that you can't see, that you can't have proven to you.

ya i understand what u are ssaying but how is your life? i see by my whole family (uncles cousins auntes..athiest) that they life isnt "harder" but i see that they struggle BECAUSE of the fact that they have no God in there life.

 

[Wikidbchofthewst]

Well, I meant it's easier to not believe in God when it comes to the arguement over whether or not God exists. In the arguement, it's easier, because you can just sit there and demand proof of God.

But I totally agree, LIFE itself is not easier for lack of belief in God, I couldn't say if it's more of a struggle, cuz I wouldn't know.

 

[CannabisAficionado]

Ok heres the real poll.
YesNoGod.com - Do you believe in God?

I believe in some kind of higher power that created all of us but i dont believe in the christian god or any other religion god. I voted no, speculating that they are referring to the christian god. so make your vote and look at the statistics.
third world countries have a higher percentage of believers while developed coutries have a higher percentage of non believers, i dont know if it means something, but thats just what i noted.

 

[growingmom]

You all better believe he sent his son to die..die on a cross between 2 petty thieves to save your soul..to save your soul from an eternity of fire..believe it !!!

 

[ace1059]

Ok heres the real poll.
YesNoGod.com - Do you believe in God?

I believe in some kind of higher power that created all of us but i dont believe in the christian god or any other religion god. I voted no, speculating that they are referring to the christian god. so make your vote and look at the statistics.
third world countries have a higher percentage of believers while developed coutries have a higher percentage of non believers, i dont know if it means something, but thats just what i noted.

i dnt think it is the "christian God" because the middle east is yes at 71 %, its because higher developed people become more spoiled and sorry but more ignorant....at least what i think

 

[CannabisAficionado]

i dnt think it is the "christian God" because the middle east is yes at 71 %, its because higher developed people become more spoiled and sorry but more ignorant....at least what i think

Oh ok if they are referring to some sort of higher power God or wathever you want to call it, i should have voted yes. as for your answer about the spoiled people of most developed countries, well that doesnt answer much but well, it could be, who knows. What i think is that it is because of freedom , and culture. culture that is passed from one generation to another. like they say, you got to get them young, that is absolutely true, it happened to me and most of us, i was raised as a christian all my life with no questioning or thinking at all, i was just a little kid, when you grow up you have that belief so ingrained in you that it is hard to snap out of it, i see it as some kind of brainwashing even if your parents dont mean it that way when they teach you that stuff , because they were brainwashed as well, when i started using cannabis i started questioning about stuff and started inquiring about everything i tought i knew. i havent discovered anything or claim to know the truth, the only thing that i know now that i didnt know before when i was a sheep led by the pastor. is that like socrates said all i know is i dont know nothing. But just in case jesus is real and the only way, Im prepared and took precautions, maybe they will help or maybe not but worth the shot, hell sounds scary you know. Everynight i pray this to God:

Please God, dont send me to hell please, im just not a superstitious person, i just found the bible to hard to believe altough i found things on the bible very logical and good, things that i live by, like Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. but then again socrates also said that and many other religions. I found to hard to believe that more than half of the world is going to hell. I found hard to believe that people who have 5000000000 times more faith than a christian or a catholic, like a palestinian who kills himself for his god is going to hell, well thats what i call faith, if someone should go to heaven it should be suicide bombers, thats what i call faith not that i agree with their actions please dont misinterpret my point.

i try to live the best i can, using my reason as much as i can, using the brain that God gave me to judge and question things. Reason is what makes me believe in some sort of higher power God, For me Gods existence is so obvious when i use my reason, i dont need nobody telling me that God is real. reason tells me when i look at my hand: damn someone must have made that, i know i didnt, but that is all that reason can tell me, not absolute answers of what he is or if theres more than one, i dont know anything.

Reason tells me that christianity is not truth, but then again, i dont know and theres a possibility, it could be. I dont have access to that information, all i got is reason, not straightforward answers.

My view of christianity:
believe in jesus without proof, just faith or go to hell and suffer and burn for all eternity.
well my reason tells me something is fishy about that.

The only good i see about religion is the morals it teaches, but the supersitius part surpasses that, so it does more harm than good.
thats all.

 

[email468]

You all better believe he sent his son to die..die on a cross between 2 petty thieves to save your soul..to save your soul from an eternity of fire..believe it !!!

I have been relatively polite and civil in this discussion about God. But your post is so wicked and mean-spirited I may very well lose my patience.

You believe whatever you want but please keep the hateful speech to yourself.

 

[undertheice]

I have been relatively polite and civil in this discussion about God. But your post is so wicked and mean-spirited I may very well lose my patience.

You believe whatever you want but please keep the hateful speech to yourself.

but hate is the basis for religion. though it may be couched in terms of love and forgiveness, there is always a penalty to pay for those who won't toe the line. whether it is the fires of damnation or just being trapped in the uncertainty of this mortal coil, those who don't join the club must be punished for their failure to obey.

 

[email468]

but hate is the basis for religion. though it may be couched in terms of love and forgiveness, there is always a penalty to pay for those who won't toe the line. whether it is the fires of damnation or just being trapped in the uncertainty of this mortal coil, those who don't join the club must be punished for their failure to obey.

Unfortunately, for many folks your description is accurate. But it doesn't have to be that way. I am hopeful that for every zealot there are 10 moderates that try to focus on the charitable, loving, judge-not side of religion rather than focus on eternal hell-fire and damnation.

Hopefully someday they will throw that tired old book out except for the sermon on the mount (AKA Jesus in a nutshell) and the Song of Solomon (because it is sexy )

only time will tell i guess...

 

[ace1059]

to CannabisAficionado

ohhh ok i understand, but what part of the bible can u not accept? the old testament is not only part of the christian religion but the base of Judaism, and parts of muslims (whatever there religion is called..sry).. the new testament is is not only supported with evidence but there are records (like the crucifixion ect) and tons manuscripts, theres more but i dnt want to rag on about it......and one last thing from your last comment you said

believe in jesus without proof, just faith or go to hell and suffer and burn for all eternity.
well my reason tells me something is fishy about that.

hears what someone told me...

"Either Jesus is who he said he was, or else he was crazy or else he was a liar."
In other words, they are saying that Jesus made claims about his powers and about who he was and if those claims were false then he can't be considered just a 'good prophet' as some other religions say he is.

 

[ace1059]

but hate is the basis for religion. though it may be couched in terms of love and forgiveness, there is always a penalty to pay for those who won't toe the line. whether it is the fires of damnation or just being trapped in the uncertainty of this mortal coil, those who don't join the club must be punished for their failure to obey.

but love is the basis of Christianity. elling people they better believe or they will burn in hell is not love. and hell probably isnt even "a big fie pit" in the bible it says its the opposite of God. ....for an eternity.