Who Believes In God?

Do you believe in GOD?

  • I believe in God

    Votes: 112 36.1%

  • I do not believe in the God of the Jews and Christians but I do believe in a higher power

    Votes: 69 22.3%

  • I do not believe in any form of God or higher power

    Votes: 96 31.0%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 33 10.6%
  • Total voters
    310
  • Poll closed .
iblazethatkush

iblazethatkush

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email468 said:
Mission accomplished indeed. How's your faith btw?

I encourage everyone to question their faith. Believing in something without evidence is not a virtue to me since it leads to ignorance. Believing something in spite of the evidence goes beyond ignorance and into the world of self-righteous delusion.

As I've said many times before, we are free to believe what we want - but believing doesn't make it so. And conversely, my (or anyone) believing something different doesn't make what we believe true either.

But not believing the evidence, especially in great abundance, is a different thing entirely. Unless you believe that God is all-powerful and able to manipulate the evidence to make it appear He does not exist (or at least not the literal biblical interpretation of Him) - then any argument is a wash so no evidence is convincing. I should add that some folks examine the evidence and are not convinced. Provided they gave the evidence an honest shot, at least they made the effort and I'm guessing their faith is much stronger because of it. So I am not saying that if you examine the evidence you will automatically become a non-believer - but I will warn you that it does get tougher.

Biggest difference I can see with non-believers and literal interpretation believers is non-believers would believe in God with evidence but no evidence can convince the believers that their belief system is even faulty let alone completely wrong. At least this has been my limited experience.

Blind faith, while comforting, can be very dangerous to non-believers (and moderate believers) depending on what the folks who have blind faith believe. I am adding this to my post so you understand why I care what others may or may not believe.
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There is evidence, maybe not the concrete evidence it would take to get you to believe. But, I have witnessed much evidence of God's existence. And my faith is strong as ever, thank you for asking:blsmoke:
 
iblazethatkush

iblazethatkush

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Trying to get people to believe in what you believe (atheism) is pretty gay. You guys are worse than mormons. And you always bitch about them, what's up with that:confused:
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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email468 said:
.....God.......He.........Him......God.....
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why do you capitalize? i can see why you would capitalize the g in God, but why the h in He & Him?

sorry for the silly question, but it just seems like an atheist shouldn't worry about it.......:?


lets not get upset here ppl. we're all friends and hippies here on RIU!:mrgreen:
 
iblazethatkush

iblazethatkush

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We TaRdED said:
how do you feel about Bush being a "Godly Christian" man?

someone on here was saying that they would rather vote for bush over a nonchristian president any day.
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:cry::cry::-?:-?:-? I'm very disappointed in the level of faith among my stoner brothers. Bush is not a Christian man. He uses his supposed faith to his advantage to gain trust and support from the American people. He does not act like a Christian man to me. Any true Christian should be able to see him for what he is, imo.
 
porchmonkey4life

porchmonkey4life

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I would have to agree. I don't get along with most of the Christian faith-especially the flaming Christians...but I have know some pretty cool ones, and I would think they would say that Bush cannot honestly call himself a Christian.
 
iblazethatkush

iblazethatkush

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A lot of people who call themselves Christians believe in name only. Or they don't study or read so they don't even know what they believe.:cry:
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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iblazethatkush said:
:cry::cry::-?:-?:-? I'm very disappointed in the level of faith among my stoner brothers.

Any true Christian should be able to see him for what he is, imo.
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aww im sorry, im not trying to disappoint anyone. but its hard for me to be completely ignorant and not have doubts when confronted with blunt facts.

i still believe in a omniscient God, but not the way i have been told about as a kid. im not sure exactly what i believe right now. just look at the Catholic churches.......... look at what they have done, watch the movie again. i was first brought up catholic b4 i became a born again Christian. but when i was catholic, that was the right way to be, every other way was false and "they would not get into heaven."

regarding your second part- lots of people have not seen the real side of bush/government, lets not forget that they control the media and they manipulate minds into thinking whatever they want, for the most part. i was talking to my dad earlier and i was telling him about my recent effulgence with the government and we got into a heated discussion because he was in disbelief and doesnt think the president would commit such atrocities.

thats why we need to spread the links/truth and get every one informed about the wool being pulled over our eyes! b4 its too late.......

sorry for the rant guys. :D
 
kittybitches

kittybitches

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i believe that "god" is such a confining word. i think "god" is such an awesome and absolute force that, at his will, pieces this universe together in perfect order. to think he can be personified is a bit misleading. in all the infinite void of space that this small planet inhabits, is it so hard to believe that there are an infinite amount of relationships of all things in it? i believe that there is energy in ALL things in the universe. i think that all religions or spiritual practice inhibit the individual to look within themselves to tap within their own energy and then bring it to be united in harmony with others around. thats they beauty of chronic. it brings people together, promotes sharing, and breaks barriers in the mind as if...........as if it were "god" speaking to you. when you contemplate "god", dont box him into terms. he is infinite. Exodus put it best when Moses asked "god" , "who shall i say sent me", and then god replied, "I AM I AM". so ponder that, im going to go get high. later ya'll.
 
ace1059

ace1059

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i would never vote for someone that believes abortion is right, thats why i voted for bush. I just couldnt say ya i voted for the other guy but i still dnt think abortion is right, because i would be a hypocrite.

A lot of people who call themselves Christians believe in name only. Or they don't study or read so they don't even know what they believe.
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:cry:

its not just christians, i lve in arizona and in my city the dominant religion is MORMONISM...lol alot of them dnt even know who joseph smith is lol
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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ace1059 said:
i would never vote for someone that believes abortion is right, thats why i voted for bush. I just couldnt say ya i voted for the other guy but i still dnt think abortion is right, because i would be a hypocrite.
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did bush do ANYTHING about abortion? still seems the same to me, still legal and being practiced. lets not get hung up on small things that arent going to change. i think abortion will always be legal no matter whos in office.

think of freshman girls in high school that are stupid and get pregnant. or girls that got bang banged by gang bangers. im not saying its right, i believe a girl should have an obligation to get an abortion b4 a certain duration of pregnancy, like a month maybe. to me, at this age or younger they arent bigger than a golf ball or so(?). plus usually the people that abort are the ones that are most likely not ready to have children and they both might have a bad life.

i could go on, but im not. abortion is bad, will it change, probably not.
 
ace1059

ace1059

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We TaRdED said:
did bush do ANYTHING about abortion? still seems the same to me, still legal and being practiced. lets not get hung up on small things that arent going to change. i think abortion will always be legal no matter whos in office.

think of freshman girls in high school that are stupid and get pregnant. or girls that got bang banged by gang bangers. im not saying its right, i believe a girl should have an obligation to get an abortion b4 a certain duration of pregnancy, like a month maybe. to me, at this age or younger they arent bigger than a golf ball or so(?). plus usually the people that abort are the ones that are most likely not ready to have children and they both might have a bad life.

i could go on, but im not. abortion is bad, will it change, probably not.
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ok but if i did vote for the other guy it would have been more watever (u know what i mean), but just think of the whole thing. The level of responsiblity is so low! u can have sex without facing the consequences! thats how the mind set is now in our country, plus the MILLIONS OF BABYS aborted will damage our country in the long run....i just think the whole thing is murder and heart less...especially partial birth abortion.....but i dnt wana get off topic to the thread:peace:
 
email468

email468

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We TaRdED said:
why do you capitalize? i can see why you would capitalize the g in God, but why the h in He & Him?

sorry for the silly question, but it just seems like an atheist shouldn't worry about it.......:?


lets not get upset here ppl. we're all friends and hippies here on RIU!:mrgreen:
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I capitalize out of respect to people who do believe - though admittedly my capitalization is inconsistent. I don't worry about it personally but I see no reason to be insulting either.
 
email468

email468

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We TaRdED said:
aww im sorry, im not trying to disappoint anyone. but its hard for me to be completely ignorant and not have doubts when confronted with blunt facts.

i still believe in a omniscient God, but not the way i have been told about as a kid. im not sure exactly what i believe right now. just look at the Catholic churches.......... look at what they have done, watch the movie again. i was first brought up catholic b4 i became a born again Christian. but when i was catholic, that was the right way to be, every other way was false and "they would not get into heaven."

regarding your second part- lots of people have not seen the real side of bush/government, lets not forget that they control the media and they manipulate minds into thinking whatever they want, for the most part. i was talking to my dad earlier and i was telling him about my recent effulgence with the government and we got into a heated discussion because he was in disbelief and doesnt think the president would commit such atrocities.

thats why we need to spread the links/truth and get every one informed about the wool being pulled over our eyes! b4 its too late.......

sorry for the rant guys. :D
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I think that you shouldn't judge God by what his supposed followers say and do. There are many ways to believe and following a single sect of Christianity may not suit you but giving up your faith completely may not be satisfactory either.

There are "Christian" churches that don't even believe in the divinity of Christ! Which would seem to take them out of the running to be a Christian church but i guess their interpretation of the bible does not emphasize Jesus' divinity over His message. Perhaps they got it right. i don't know and no one does. But my point being you don't have to completely reject your faith, you may just need a different flavor.

So if you are being rejected by your fellow believers because your faith has been shaken, then I would at least encourage you to find fellowship that is a little more supportive.

There are many reasons to reject God but doing so because of people who claim they are following His word does not seem like a good reason to me. Keep in mind this is coming from a non-believer.
 
email468

email468

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iblazethatkush said:
Trying to get people to believe in what you believe (atheism) is pretty gay. You guys are worse than mormons. And you always bitch about them, what's up with that:confused:
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Just offering another route - definitely not trying to sway anyones belief - if i were i'd use a lot more persuasive language and site tons of evidence why many, many parts of the bible can not possibly be true - but i'm not doing that.
 
ace1059

ace1059

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email said it best, the churches ARNT GOD! they (the followers) are not perfect,

but to email, by reading what u say...u think so differently, i know u dont believe in God because u said u didnt...but from what i see you are very intelligent..how can u NOT see the evidence and love of Jesus? (not material evidence but....i dnt know how to say it but some how i can see and know that Jesus is the son of God) kinda confusing how i say it but i hope u get what i am trying saying
 
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